DEBORAH CROMBIE: I've had such fun this week, talking about some of my favorite books and authors. And now I have one more, my friend Tony Broadbent.
SHADOWS IN THE SMOKE is the third book in his In the Smoke series, set in late 1940s London, and featuring dashing Cockney cat burglar, Jethro. You might guess how much I like Tony's books by the fact that that's my quote on the cover (Squint really hard...) What you can't see is that I'm in very good company--the blurbs on the back jacket are from Michael Connolly, Lee Child, and Jacqueline Winspear! (I'm hugely flattered to have got the front!) I'll let Tony tell you more.
DEBS: Tony, I love love love your Jethro books, and I don’t know of anyone else
writing anything similar. How did you
come up with the idea of Jethro as a character? (And it’s just Jethro—we don’t
know his last name. Will we ever learn it?)
TONY BROADBENT:Your blurb describes our Jethro to a T: ‘A rakish Cockney
cat burglar with the soul of a poet.’ Lovely stuff. Thanks ever so. Jethro is
based on the father of an old friend of mine—who I never ever met—but who
was an honest to goodness cat burglar in and around London. And as my ‘old
china’ (Cockney rhyming slang: old china = old china plate = mate) had a career
in the London theatre, I put the two together and ‘voila’—our Jethro.
The Smoke sold on the log-line: ‘To Catch A Thief—in postwar
London.’ And along with the very nice things you say about Jethro, a reviewer
for Booklist said: ‘Jethro could have been played superbly by Cary Grant. (Now if
any of the bloggeratti are unaware of Alfred Hitchcock’s masterpiece ‘To Catch
A Thief’—starring the incredible Cary Grant and the ever-lovely Grace Kelly—I
suggest they stop doing this and immediately go access their video source and
have ‘a Butcher’s hook’—as Jethro might say—more Cockney rhyming slang = to
take a look. (And if I knew Jethro’s last
name, I’d tell you, honestly I would. All I know is it probably begins
with the letter ‘H’—which I discovered by a very close reading of The Smoke.)
DEBS: And the time period is so fascinating. London in the
late forties is The Smoke. A tough place, filled with bombsites, still
in the throes of austerity. The
gangsters were not to be trifled with (the next decade would see the rise of
the Kray twins) but Jethro, who may be a creeper (cat burglar) but is as
honorable as they come, always seems to get on their bad side. But that London
had its charms as well, and a thriving vitality. When I read your Jethro books,
every detail is so perfect I feel as if I’m there. How do you get that authenticity?
TONY: That London of bombsites was there well into the Sixties—and
when I was nipper—a very young kid—my father would always take me up to
London—for the fun of it. So I actually visited many of the areas I write
about—Church Street and Petticoat Lane (street markets) in particular—and
actually saw Jack Spot—‘Spottsy’—one of the Lords of The Underworld—on Church
Street. (I wasn’t half as impressed as I was when I bumped into and met the
famous American cowboy star—Tex Ritter—at the Wembley Arena for his Wild West
Show—and he tousled my hair and said “Howdy pardner”. I blush to think that I
must’ve been in full cowboy regalia myself. But all part of the fun. And
different times, maybe, but heroes are ever important. And our ‘body
memories’—sights, sounds, smells—of time and place never really go away. All it
needs is a few nice, old black and white photographs to bring it all back. The
details—come from reading all manner of things—autobiographies of stage star
and crime star and ex-Scotland Yard coppers—newsreel, newspapers—anything and
everything.
DEBS: I think it’s quite a challenge to write long and
complex novels in the first person, but you do it very well and I think that’s
part of what gives the Jethro books such a sense of immediacy. Was that a
conscious decision? Does the line ever blur between Tony and Jethro?
TONY: The challenge in writing, of course, is to try keep your
head on straight—and only ever revealing what Jethro would actually know at any
one time. I’ve tried all manner of different ‘work-arounds’ to the problem—and
some have succeeded more than others.
And as for ‘keeping my
head on straight’ with the character of our Jethro. In my head, I always give
him the voice of the young Michael Caine—a great British actor— a man of humanity
and humor—born and bred in London—the youngsters out there will know him as
Alfred the butler in the latest ‘Dark Knight Rises’ film trilogy starring
Christian Bale as the caped crusader. (Again—our heroes are ever
important—regardless of how they might kit themselves out.) All I have to do is
read some lines of narrative in Michael Caine’s (younger, Cockney) voice and
I’m away and running, so to speak.
As for the line blurring—how can it not? That’s why I
introduced other ‘pop’ heroes of mine into the narratives—the author, Ian
Fleming; the actor David Niven; even the extraordinarily talented Michael
Bentin—one of the originators (along with Peter Sellers, Spike Milligan, and
Harry Secombe) of the ‘national obsession’ BBC radio comedy show in 1950s Britain—‘The
Goon Show’.
And so—yes—when’s all said and done, I just try conjure up
the dark streets and alleyways of the London of the late Forties and early
Fifties—and I’m away and running, itching to climb the nearest drainpipe, up
and onto the rooftops—an eye open for any open windows of interest.
DEBS: I'm going to hunt for a copy of To Catch a Thief, and a few Michael Caine movies, all the better to imagine Jethro. Readers, SHADOWS isn't out until October 16th, but the first two books in the series, THE SMOKE, and SPECTRES IN THE SMOKE, are available in trade paper and as e-books. So if you haven't made Jethro's acquaintance, here's your chance to catch up.
Or, Tony has very kindly offered to give a signed copy of the THE SMOKE to the first commenter who can translate this phrase into Cockney rhyming slang:
"I went upstairs to have a look at my wife and couldn't believe my eyes."
"I went upstairs to have a look at my wife and couldn't believe my eyes."
And Tony will give an ARC of SHADOWS IN THE SMOKE to the reader who can tell us what nickname Jethro gives to the CIA agent James Russell in SPECTRES IN THE SMOKE.
Are you up for the challenge?
Tony will be checking in today to respond to questions and comments, so do drop in and say "hi."
One last bit of Jungle Red business: Thanks to everyone who came to Lucy's party yesterday. Dee (Gram) is the winner of the Keys Cuisine cookbook and Amy is the winner of DEATH IN FOUR COURSES. Please email LucyBurdette at gmail dot com to arrange delivery.
I threw some pears to get a butcher's hook at the old china and couldn't stand the flies.
ReplyDeleteHuh? Sounds like a great series Tony.
Ha ha funny Jack:)
ReplyDeleteTony, if Debs loved the book, I know we will too! Congratulations and we're so pleased to have you visiting. Now I'm off to watch that movie...
Oh dear! Another series to add to my TBR list. I love it!
ReplyDeleteThank you, Tony, for joining Jungle Reds. How can we not love something Deborah Crombie recommends?!
Best of luck with the new book!
I am a huge "To Catch A Thief" fan, and Jethro sounds like someone I'll enjoy getting to know. Thanks, Debs, for adding another author to my "gotta try" list!
ReplyDeleteWelcome, Tony!
ReplyDeleteNot having ingested any caffeine this morning,I am unable to attempt any Cockney slang. But I DO know which author's books I will be looking into ASAP! (Ido believe some sort of cosmic accident prevented me from being born in Great Britain.)
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ReplyDeleteShadows in the Smoke comes with a map of Jethro's London, which I love.
ReplyDeleteI just realized that we talked about the series, and about Jethro, but we didn't really say what Shadows is about. Maybe Tony will fill us in a little when he drops in. (He's on CA time.)
Tony, I haven't read "Spectre in the Smoke" -- but all three of your Jethro books just went onto my TBR list. Between this interview and Deborah Crombie's recommendation, I am definitely intrigued!
ReplyDeleteA wild guess: would the nickname in question rhyme with "spook"?
Oh, and I forgot to say that I loved your story in "A AStudy in Sherlock"!
ReplyDeleteWelcome, Tony! I hadn't been aware of the SMOKE books, so I'll remedy that right away. As Marianne said, "How can we not love something Deborah Crombie recommends?!"
ReplyDeleteOn another note, got my copy of THE OTHER WOMAN and immediately read the whole thing last night. (It's why I'm yawning this morning.) SOOOO very good! Yay, Hank!!
Tony Cariad--how lovely to find you on today's Jungle Red, and many congratulations on the new Jethro book! I believe my father went to that same Wild West show at Wembley and brought me home autographs from people who did remarkable things with rope.
ReplyDeleteWish you best of luck with the book.
Oh, meant to say, check out Tony's webpage at www.tonybroadbent.com
ReplyDeleteHe's got a nice video under the About Tony section. Almost as good as meeting Tony in person.
Hi, Tony! Michael Caine! Perfect casting... but too old. How about Benedict Cumberbatch?
ReplyDeleteYes, your books are reminiscent of To Catch a Thief. Also of the wonderful (though thoroughly American) Donald Westlake's Dortmunder novels.
Good Morning Jungle Red Writers - Blimey - what a fabulous gathering of writing talent - I swoon at the thought I know three of the leading ladies enough to call friend - the others by their sterling reputations.
ReplyDeleteAs for the background to Shadows in the title: Shadows In The Smoke.
There was a huge surge in crime in postwar Britain - especially in London and the surrounding Home Counties.
The new kind of criminals - were all ex-forces, from all classes: very fit, trained in all the arts of warfare, educated in making mischief and mayhem, armed and dangerous. (There's a great British film starring Jack Hawkins - The League of Gentlemen - that touches upon this if anyone's interested.)
Some of them joined the big established London gangs - most made themselves available for hire when a gangster - working once or twice removed from a crime boss or shady 'legitimate' businessman put a gang of criminals together for a specific job.
To battle this - the Assistant Police Commissioner (C Division) at Scotland Yard came up with the idea of putting together a group of undercover policemen and women - new faces unknown to London's criminals - from around the country and the rest of the commonwealth. The mission of this Special Duty Squad was for them to ferret themselves into London's Underworld - into the clubs, pubs, bars, spielers, gyms frequented by London's top villains - for them even to join gangs if necessary. And then to report back via a secret telephone control centre at Scotland Yard.
The detectives at the nerve centre at Scotland Yard were hand picked - very few in number - had their own 'locked' office to keep their operations away from any 'bent' coppers on the pay roles of the big London crime lords.
The national newspapers quickly dubbed the group: The Ghost Squad.
London's villains called them The Shadow Mob - and put a price on each of the heads of the Squad's undercover operatives - if they could ever find and identify them.
Blimey - and that's just part of what Shadows refers to in the title.
Hope this isn't over the top.
- Tony
PS Bore da - Rhys Cariad - thanks for your lovely welcome.
PPS Hellooo - Hollie. How lovely to hear from you - too. Had hoped to see both you and Rhys at this year's Book Passage Mystery Writers Conference
PPS We - faculty and fans - were all the poorer for you both not being there.
So interesting, Tony. I just read The Yard by Alex Grecian, which centers around the development of the first Scotland Yard murder squad in the 1890s.
ReplyDeleteNow I wonder what became of the Ghost Squad...
And what Jethro is up to next. Any hints for us?
Hi Hallie -
ReplyDeleteLove your linking of Donald Westlake's Dortmunder and David Dodge's (and Cary Grant's) John Robie.
As for me casting Michael Caine as Jethro - only for voice and time and place (that I try hear inside my head as I try to write. but - oh if I could turn back the clock... the Caine in The Ipcress File and Alfie ... was a sheer delight.)
As for Benedict Cumberbatch? His role as a modern Holmes in the BBC's exemplary - brilliant - 'Sherlock' will I believe turn out to be the defining role of his lifetime. His plus-perfect 'double' casting with Martin Freeman as has Watson - is quite unbeatable.
And I speak as someone for whom the incomparable Jeremy Brett will always and forever be the (classic) Holmes - certainly for my lifetime.
isn't it amazing what the right casting will do for a role. The 'truth' of it becomes universal and iconic. There's a story that George Raft was first offered the part of Rick Blaine in Casablanca. How fortunate for us all that he turned it down.
Hi Debs –
ReplyDeleteThanks for inviting me to your party in the jungle. Nice place you have here.
As to your question as about what happens / eventually happened to the Ghost Squad — I, of course, have my theories — but the official Scotland Yard version as to what supposedly occurred is referenced at the end of Shadows In The Smoke.
And as for Jethro’s next ‘creeping narrative’ … It’s called Skylon In The Smoke … it follows hard on from events in Shadows … sees the start of a power shift in London’s Underworld … witnesses the Festival of Britain … even touches MI5 and the emerging murky world of postwar atomic spies … and all before Jethro even has time to put on his turtles. (more Cockney rhyming slang: turtles = turtledoves = gloves).
OH, rats, Im now obsessed with figuring out the cockney slang. Which I have no idea..
ReplyDeleteI went up the bears to get a book at my louse, and couldn't believe the lies?
Sigh. I'll just read the books..xoo
Hmm, something like...
ReplyDeleteI went up the apples and pears to have a butcher's hook at my trouble and strife and couldn't believe my....oh I don't know. Meat Pies?
Anyway, this series sounds right up my alley.
Oh, who'd have thought it, having to explain that Michael Caine was once young!
Good for you, Hank! I'm going to have a go at the end of the day, even though I'm not eligible for the book.
ReplyDeleteThe fun thing about rhyming slang is that is keeps evolving. As in Barak Obamas--Pajamas.
I did the classic double-take - straight out of an old Warner Bros. cartoon - re Debs' response:
ReplyDelete"Good for you, Hank!"
Hank? Hank?? That's Hank???
Blimey - I've heard of 'A Boy Named Sue.'
But 'A Bird Named Hank.'? And a double knockout - at that.
What's not to love about this lovely country?
... or Jungle Red Writers?
As for the everyday pursuit of Cockney slang / London Underworld slang / and (in Shadows) Polari - the traditional slang used by theatricals and those of the Lavender Persuasion (as they sometimes referred to themselves) ... there's a helpful & fun glossary that comes free - inside each and every In The Smoke novel. Simply glance through it a couple of times - and you'll be able to impress all the other guests at the next dinner party you go to with your amazing dexterity in Cockney Rhyming Slang & Back Slang.
This one's for Jack Getze:
ReplyDelete"I threw some pears to get a butcher's hook at the old china and couldn't stand the flies."
Awful Cockney slang - but great American literature in miniature - Stephen King / Elmore Leonard / Carl Hiaasen out of Hemingway - and by the look of it - you could be out on that Marlin boat before the rest of us could finish our Mojitos.
And if you're not already writing - you should be - that's a hell of a logline for a novel.
Best - to my new 'old china.'
This is for Lark – as in ‘Up with the…’
ReplyDeleteLovely of you to comment – Lark. Thanks for that.
Hopefully – TBR doesn’t stand for TonyBroadbentRemaindered?
Anyway – as for ‘spook’ being the nickname in question – nice try – but no cigar – not even a CIA ‘007’ & ‘Spectre’-inspired’ exploding one. (You do know that was one of the methods of assassinating Fidel Castro the CIA seriously considered employing following the Bay of Pigs debacle?).
And how very nice of you to mention the short story I wrote for Laurie R. King and Leslie Klinger’s ‘A Study In Sherlock.’
It pays to everything I mentioned to Hollie – earlier today - about one’s continuing love for Conan Doyle’s Holmes Canon / and its parade of inspired interpreters: Granada TV’s Sherlock Holmes / BBC’s Sherlock / Jeremy Brett / Benedict Cumberbatch et al
All the very best.
I haven't read the story in A Study in Sherlock--hadn't read any, in fact. How did I miss that? So now am glad I have all three Jethro books because I'm ordering ASinS. Here's the link: http://www.amazon.com/Study-Sherlock-Stories-inspired-Holmes/dp/0812982460/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1346450760&sr=1-1&keywords=a+study+in+sherlock
ReplyDeleteA reader on my Facebook page mentioned Michael Caine's Gambit. Now that was a fun one--we may all be spending the weekend watching Cary Grant and Michael Caine!
Okay,Tony, it's the end of the day ad I have a few cups of caffeine in me. I am STILL trying to come up with at least a not too embarrassing entry..maybe after dinner. The little ol'grey cells have gotten a workout!
ReplyDeleteHallie - Egad! - So sorry - A thousand apologies...
ReplyDeleteI notice I've been writing 'Hollie' not 'Hallie' throughout the entire day - a speed-typing multi-repeat idiotic mistake - either that or I must have Christmas already on my mind - though truth be told - there is an important character with the name Hollie in the story I'm currently working on.
Anyway - what on earth can I do to make amends?
A glass of your favorite shampoo, perhaps?
There I go again - of course - I mean:
A glass of your favorite champagne?
(Notice though - how very cleverly I left out the letter 'u' so as not to confuse the issue even further with the British spelling of 'favourite.')
All the very best - Ho...Hallie!
- Tiny Bitbent
Ho, Tiny! Want to give a clue of the spook question?
ReplyDeleteWhat a delight to 'meet' you Tony. Having read and thoroughly enjoyed The Smoke (which I discovered through Maggie Topkis's fabulous Felony and Mayhem site), I'm looking forward to following Jethro's further adventures.
ReplyDeleteI may be a lifelong Californian, but I adore all things British, and you certainly give a sense of time, place and atmosphere. Irresistible.
Great idea - Debs -
ReplyDeleteNow if I could only remember myself...
Not that I want to spook anybody...
Let me see now... mmm?
It's the nickname Jethro gives to James Russell - the CIA agent in Spectres In The Smoke - the Agency officially not even two years old yet...
And all of it absolutely nothing to do with the price of fish... or the answer...
I tell you - though - it's going to be a banner day for whoever gets it right - because as Jethro so often says: 'It's hidden in plain sight. Right there in front of everyone's eyes.'
- Not a Tiny Bit Worried
PS If I could show you a picture of the man in question (sans hat) you'd get it in an instant.
PPS And I bet - by now - someone very definitely has...
This is for Lynda - fellow Californian -
ReplyDeleteYou mention the fearless, fabulous Maggie Topkis of Felony & Mayhem - and the wonderful Partners In Crime Bookstore - a truly great Indie Press - keeper of so many mystery-literary flames.
I owe a lot to Maggie - she kept Jethro published when he slipped out the window of the Flatiron building and ventured forth into the Village - a great base for a little bit of burglary on the Upper East Side (in Jethro's world this all took place in the mid-Thirties / in mine, in the mid-2000s).
All of which is to say - thanks ever so for venturing into The Smoke.
(The Smoke, of course, being Cockney for London Town throughout Victorian times - in the same way that New Yorkers refer to their own home town as the Big Apple).
Thanks again Lynda - hope you enjoy Spectres and Shadows.
All the very best -
Tony
This is for Lynda - fellow Californian -
ReplyDeleteYou mention the fearless, fabulous Maggie Topkis of Felony & Mayhem - and the wonderful Partners In Crime Bookstore - a truly great Indie Press - keeper of so many mystery-literary flames.
I owe a lot to Maggie - she kept Jethro published when he slipped out the window of the Flatiron building and ventured forth into the Village - a great base for a little bit of burglary on the Upper East Side (in Jethro's world this all took place in the mid-Thirties / in mine, in the mid-2000s).
All of which is to say - thanks ever so for venturing into The Smoke.
(The Smoke, of course, being Cockney for London Town throughout Victorian times - in the same way that New Yorkers refer to their own home town as the Big Apple).
Thanks again Lynda - hope you enjoy Spectres and Shadows.
All the very best -
Tony