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HANK PHILLIPPI RYAN: Oh, Canada has nothing to do with this blog, really, except that I
love the Canadian national anthem, and I've been singing it in my head ever
since I began chatting with Janet Costello, the editor of CRIME SCENE, the
Toronto Chapter Sisters in Crime newsletter. (So now you're singing it too,
right?)
To celebrate the
twentieth anniversary of the Toronto Chapter of Sisters in Crime, they produced
our first anthology, The Whole She-Bang.
And Janet--volunteered!--to edit. Ooh, I thought. Good person to grill about
what works and what doesn't--just in case any of us want to submit a short
story to someone someday... :-)
HANK: What a
task, Janet! What'd you do first?
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JANET: I read Getting the Words Right by Theodore A.
R. Cheney. As with non-fiction editing, Cheney emphasized writing basics.
Reduce the word count. Keep the story moving forward. Important ideas
should be at the end of a sentence, a paragraph, a story.
Our judging was blind, so when I signed on for
the project, I had no idea who I would be editing. Canadian Sisters in Crime
includes several best-selling and award winning authors. Once the twenty
stories were determined, we had a variety of successful authors, short story
writers and first publications.
HANK: Did it
turn out, in the end, that the best stories were by the already-successful
people?
JANET: While we
have some excellent stories by established authors, we were delighted to have
some wonderful stories from first-published authors too. While members of the
mystery community may know some of our authors as established mystery
writers, I challenge you to identify the story that is a first-time publication for
that author!
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For a historical
entry, I had to check for anachronisms. Do you know how long the Y-incision has
been used in autopsies?
The biggest
adjustment for me was editing dialogue. . Little changed between the quotation
marks—characters speak how they speak, even with deliberate bad grammar. But it didn’t take long for the lessons
learned for my Erle Stanley Gardner reading to float to the surface. The
requirements for snappy back-and-forth dialogue were clear and consistent in
those gems.
HANK: Talking
about dialogue—what made it work? What ruined it?
JANET: As the editor,
I don't think we've let anything through in dialogue that ruined the story or
plot.
In one story you
might not realize, in the first line or two from the character, that he has a
local dialect, but that does become evident. And letting you pick up on that,
rather than spelling it out, invites the reader to engage with the story.
In
"An Unexpected Christmas Gift", there is one line, which we included
in our youtube video (featuring one line from each story), that just melts your
heart.
HANK: What were
the pitfalls in the stories you rejected?
JANET: I cannot
emphasize enough that proof-reading your work for grammar and full thought
processes, is critical. Reading your work aloud, or having a friend read it
aloud to you is an invaluable tool.
Punctuation can sneak by you, especially when you’re making changes. I would
have bet a small amount of cash that I’d caught any exceptions to the standard
one space after every period, but our formatter would have enjoyed a nice lunch
on me if I had. And now I understand why writers break into an animated
discussion around the n and m dashes!
HANK: What do
you hope for before reading a short story?
JANET: Well, to
be caught quickly. Drawn in by the voice or a character or the situation. And surprised at least once before the tale is
told. I find the shorter the story, the more likely all of these are likely to
occur.
Many
hours went into the editing of The Whole
She-Bang, and many lessons were learned. For our next anthology, the
process will be more efficient, but I think our result will be the same. We got
the words right.
HANK: Want to read for
yourself? Janet is giving away a copy
of The Whole She-Bang with a coupon for an e-reader, or sending you a print copy.
And Janet will be here to answer questions about short stories!
And to enter—here’s
an EASY one. What’s the best short story you’ve ever read?
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For six years, Janet
Costello has been the editor of Crime Scene, the Toronto Chapter Sisters in Crime newsletter. There
she has also published interviews, articles and puzzles. She enjoys attending mystery
conventions, especially when she can volunteer. Janet works as a commercial
insurance underwriter to support her reading habit (and to ensure that habit
includes a glass of red wine nearby). The Whole She-Bang, e-vailable for 99 cents on Oct.
18th, is her first anthology.
First . . . Congratulations, Hank, for “The Other Woman” being chosen as Best of 2012!
ReplyDeleteI chuckled over several of the lines from the stories, most notably “Being a spy takes patience” . . . sniffled over the “I your girl” . . . and put the book on my to-be-read list.
Best short story I ever read? The list is probably about as long as the list of my favorite books . . . there’s no way to pick just one!
Ah, the to-be-read list. Don't we all have one of those!
ReplyDeleteJanet, what a great interview. Such helpful insight into how an editor thinks--and we writers should think as we revise too!
ReplyDeleteDid you find that your Sisters took your editing well? (I LOVE my current editor for the Key West mysteries--she takes my good book and makes it better!)
this sounds like a great Christmas gift!
Welcome Janet! And thanks for the advice... I have to say I love my editor even though I sometimes blanch at the pages of comments. She's (almost) always right.
ReplyDeleteI have huge admiration for anyone who can write a short story. It's such a demanding form, so little time to develop a character, and it's gotta have a great twist.
Congrats, dear Hank, for this new honor! Good golly, Miss Molly, you're going to have to buy another apartment to hold all your honors and trophies and prizes! Maybe the Metropolitan Museum of Art in NYC would give you a wing! Thelma Straw in Manhattan
ReplyDeleteHi Lucy/Roberta,
ReplyDeleteMy Sisters all took my suggestions very open-mindedly, and I've received warm thanks me for my efforts. We even bonded over some, for eg. I was editing one story as the author was emailing me to point out she'd switched a character's name mid-story in error, (which I had noticed).
On another note, I've got an answer (for today anyway...it's one of those questions, where you'll have a different answer later) about my favourite mystery story. The Secret Lives of Cats by Kristine Kathryn Rusch (from EQMM...2 yrs ago?). This cat has a camcorder on its collar, and the investigation is from the first-animal/first-person viewpoint.
Yeah, a short story is daunting. Why is that? The amazing Nancy Pickard says they always must have an epiphany..so that's interesting.
ReplyDeleteAnd funny, too, that when you get an idea for a good short story, you instantly know it. It appears as a story, not a novel. Hmm.
My favorite short story? Yeah, my own question is too difficult.
Janet, did the cat talk?
Wow! I've put The Whole She-Bang on my holiday list. I love short stories and love Canada, where I studied for a semester a few years (okay, decades) ago.
ReplyDeleteAnd thanks for getting Oh Canada! going in my head this morning. I love that anthem, especially the line "with glowing hears we see thee rise, the true North strong & free."
No bombs bursting in air, just a heart bursting with pride. So very Candadian.
Finally, Hank, big congratulations on more acclaim for The Other Woman!
Brenda B. in Maine
Woohoo, Hank! What a ride you're on this year, and so well-deserved.
ReplyDeleteIs it me, or are there a lot more anthologies being published in the last couple of years? It's a great form, though. I love discovering new-to-me authors via their short stories, especially mystery ones, so I'll definitely look for The Whole She-Bang. (Hank, short stories could be our go-to stopgap for the first, electronics-free 15 minutes of the flight!)
Favorite short stories: The Ransom of Red Chief, and The Gift of the Magi. O Henry was the master, wasn't he?
I do have at least one all-time favorite short story. "Bullet in the Brain" by Tobias Wolff. It appears in his collection "Our Story Begins." It is so dark and wickedly funny, a little gem, and a great lesson in writing an unreliable narrator.
ReplyDeleteThanks, Hank -- now I've got our northern neighbors' national anthem firmly stuck in my head. I may have to go outside and sing!
ReplyDeleteCongrat to Hank! As I told her at Bouchercon, I suspect that The Other Women will end up on many "best of 2012" lists, including mine.
ReplyDeleteAs for my favorite short story. While not a mystery, I would rank Everyday Use by Alice Walker at the top of the list. A story about sisters fighting over their mother's (grandmother's?) quilts. Just wonderful.
OH, yes, Hallie, that's a great one! And anyone who's been to MWA-U knows how terrific it is..
ReplyDeleteAnd I agree about O.Henry. And of course--The Lottery. Which I dont even want to think about.
Janet, get some of the Toronto sisters to come tell us a bit about their stories!
And aww... Kristopher. Thank you. So much. Smooches.
ReplyDeleteANd sorry, Leslie...I'm still singing, too. Especially difficlt because I only know the first two words.
Congratulations, Hank.
ReplyDeleteI was in a US crowd that was singing both the US and Canadian anthems. They knew the words to the US anthem, but couldn't really carry the tune.
They started lustily on the first line of the Canadian anthem -- and then petered out, not knowing the words, but willing to hum along with the singer.
Best short story? Too tough, because it depends on mood, genre, memory of the moment. However, Shirley Jackson's "The Lottery" sticks with me.
~ Jim
Yay to Hank!!! The accolades for The Other Woman just go on and on!!! You are our star!
ReplyDeleteShort stories, oh, they are so hard. I do not have the short story knack, but need to write one, so was very interested in your comments, Janet. Good editors, for novels or short stories, are priceless beyond pearls...
Favorite short story? "Too Many Cooks," which won the Agatha and the Anthony and was nominated for the Macavity, by my friend Marcia Talley!
Annie Proulx's collection of short stories, "Close Range", is excellent, too. In fact, "Brokeback Mountain" came from that collection. It's more of a novella than a true short story, but still an amazing piece of work.
ReplyDeleteShort mystery stories, though, seem much more difficult to write. I've tried, without success. My hat is off to anyone who can craft a good story in such tight confines and parameters.
Congratulations to Hank for YET another honor!
ReplyDeleteThis was a terrific interview, Janet. Good editing is hard work and vastly important. I always think of the editor as the person who keeps me from going out in public with egg on my face.
"The Lottery" may well be my favorite short story. Stephen King's "Apt Pupil" is absolutely chilling (as is "The Lottery") and remains in my memory, but it's long enough to be a novella.
Kevin Prufer wrote a quiet, stunning story called "Cat in a Box" for KANSAS CITY NOIR that just came out.
Congratulations AGAIN to Hank! (This reminds me that I loved your short story On the House...did I get that right? I am so bad at remembering titles.)
ReplyDeleteAmong my favorites are Gift of the Magi by O Henry,and a story by Joanne Greenberg that was in one of her collections of short stories. I do not remember the name of the short story but I think the collection it is from is High Crimes and Misdemeanors...and I hope I got THAT name right. (My copy seems to have disappeared. I think it fell apart!) Anyway,the story is about a Jewish woman who begins to doubt the existence of God. Her life begins to deteriorate, and soon the law of gravity no longer applies to her. I think her rabbi told her,sure,it's one of God's laws, so it can't apply to you anymore. (She was floating up near the ceiling, hitting her head...) Because it has been so many years since I read it, I probably am wrong on some details. But it was quite amusing, and I recommended it to a lot of people.
A few years ago I picked up a used Sisters in Crime anthology at a library sale, and that is one of the ways in which I discovered some of my now favorite writers and went on to buy their brand-new books!
Am not loving captcha today.
Congratulation, Hank, on another well-deserved milestone for The Other Woman.
ReplyDeleteFrom outside of mysteries I love A Sound of Thunder by Ray Bradbury, where a visitor to the past crushes a butterfly, and the future is changed in that instant. But there have to be more standout short mystery faves. Edgar Allan Poe anyone?
ReplyDeleteJanet Costello is a fabulous editor, and she put a lot of time into The Whole She-Bang. I'm thrilled to have my story, Crossing Over, in the collection.
ReplyDeleteWah-hoo Hank!
ReplyDeleteI can't pick just one short story. The Lottery would be on my short list, along with The Nine Billion Names of Good and just about any short story by Kurt Vonnegut.
I'm impressed by how many of you seem to know our national anthem, but how many of you can sing the bilingual version?
Thanks Hank and Janet!
ReplyDeleteMy favourite story? That's hard. I wouldn't say it's my favorite, but I remember in about Grade 4 reading a story by Stephen Leacock called "The New Food". Poor Gustavus Adolphus eats some 300 pounds of food that has been condensed to the size of a small pill with disasterous results.
I do like some of the others mentioned like The Gift of the Magi and The Secret Lives of Cats (where no cats speak).
I was fortunate to have two stories selected for inclusion in The Whole She-Bang, "The Cookie Caper: An End of the Road Adventure" and "Amber Free Annie"
In both stories, the main character is a child but these stories are very different. The Cookie Caper is light and I hope will be enjoyable to both children and adults. It is set in Northern Ontario, in a bakery where someone is stealing Cookies...
Amber Free Annie is somewjat darker. It featurs a young girl who runs from her mother and mother's boyfriend to the streets of Toronto. For a while her life seems better until...
Finally, congratulations Hank!
I have to say I was tickled pink to have my story "A Ring for Jenny" selected to be in The Whole She-Bang. Short stories are tough for me, but when I saw the call out for submissions I couldn't let the chance pass me by. I decided to write a short story featuring my book's protagonist, Dr. Peter Ainsley, a 19th century morgue surgeon solving crimes during the infancy of forensic science.
ReplyDeleteJanet was a very gracious editor. I found her points to be quite valid and deserving. I am glad she was on hand to give my story a thorough critique.
I also enjoyed meeting the fellow contributors at the launch party in Toronto. Sisters In Crime sure know how to put on a party!
Thanks for mentioning Too Many Cooks, Debs. Re-telling the story of Macbeth from the viewpoint of the three witches was such fun for me!
ReplyDeleteMy favorite short story has to be "Lamb to the Slaughter" by Roald Dahl ... also made into an episode of Alfred Hitchcock presents staring Barbara Bel Geddes. No spoilers!
And contrats to the Toronto chapter of SinC for their anthology. I've been involved in all off the Chesapeake Chapter anthologies so far -- five going on six! -- and it's always heartening to see all the talent we have within our chapter among both the previously published and the soon-to-be-published authors who make it into the anthologies.
Lamb to the Slaughter! We were JUST talking about that--and trying to remember the title! Thank you!
ReplyDeleteOh, Hank – congratulations! xoxoxo
ReplyDeleteI think Apt Pupil by Stephen King is my favorite. Or I could simply like that he loves the Red Sox and the Green Moster.
ReplyDeleteThank you, everyone, for your positive feedback and short story affection. Congratulations, Hank, on this latest accolade for The Other Woman.
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