HANK PHILLIPPI RYAN: SUCH a serious topic today. What’s the worst hair decision you ever made? What’s the best? Our darling Maddee James, who handles the intricacies of the Jungle Red website as well as mine, emailed me the other day with a burning question.
“Should I get bangs?” she asked.
You should know that she has beautiful hair, shoulder length all the same length. So her question was tectonic: should she cut six inches from the front of her hair, thereby ensuring that if she didn’t like it, it would take YEARS to grow it back to how it was before.
To cut bangs is a commitment. A massive irrevocable commitment. Should I do it? She asked me.
I thought: How do I know? I There’s no way to know how you’re going to look with bangs until you have them, even if you do the “make a ponytail and flip it over your forehead to see how you will look with bangs’“ trick.
My husband is hearing me dictate this, and is asking me right now: “Don’t they have websites where you can put up your photo and see how you look with bangs?” Hang on. I’m going to check that out right now.
Okay, I just checked The Google, and turns out there are about ten million simulators and demonstrations to predict whether you’ll look good with bangs.
Still. You never know really, until you do it, right? And that’s the terrifying question.
A million years ago, I had cascading brown hair, all one length, much longer than my shoulders, wavy and pretty gorgeous. (I realize that now, fifty years later.) Here's a photo of me, circa 1971? Having a deep political conversation with a pal in Washington DC. (I love this photo. We are SO serious.)
And here, my first radio reporting publicity shot. Back in the day.
But of course, I wasn’t satisfied with that, and when I was on assignment for Rolling Stone in Atlanta, I went to a hairdresser and said, can you do something with this?
He said, have you ever heard of Farrah Fawcett?
I will admit that I said no. Which should tell you how long ago it was.
She has great hair, he said, I’ll cut your hair just like hers. Dumb 21-year-old me said Sure. It took 15 years, at least, for it to get back to being okay. Happily, there are no photos of it.
Oh, wait there is one. Taken by Richard Avedon and that's him standing next to me with the camera bulb in his hand. I spent SO long fixing my hair before that shot. Sigh. I still look like some sort of assassin, who'd been murdered by humidity. (And fun fact, it was taken in front of the CIA building.)
ANYWAY. So I warned Maddee away from bangs. I said, if you don’t like it, it will be terrible, you’re beautiful, you’re fabulous, only do it if you cannot stand not to.
Here's the "before."
She did it, and she looks gorgeous. And she gave me permission to tell you so. Keep reading for the results.
Reds and Readers, what major hair decisions have you made? And what do you think about that now?
LUCY BURDETTE: In 7th grade, I wanted to have hair that curved from a little long in back to longer, below chin-length in front. We had just moved and I was not settled in and I desperately wanted to look like this cool girl named Brooke. But my mother talked me out of that and into a “pixie.” I’m sure it was cute but it didn’t feel cute, it felt awkward and awful. Once I grew it out, I didn’t cut it for a long long time. Until I wanted to look like Dorothy Hamill (remember her?) and later, Jessica Lange:).
HANK: Oh, dear, Lucy. Yikes. (I hardly see you in this photo!)
LUCY: Oh of course the going gray was a terribly hard decision but Covid made it possible, and now I would never go back. It’s a serious question Hank, and next time I think about bangs, I will know to come to you and Jonathan!
JENN MCKINLAY: Oh, let’s see, the 80’s spiral perm? Yeah, that was something. Aquanet is your friend! The purple faux hawk in college (like a mohawk but mellower)? The cranberry red phase? The spiky blonde era? I’ve had bangs since I was fourteen and realized while looking at my school photo that I had a HUGE forehead. I wouldn’t even recognize my face without a fringe as the Brits say. On the upside, at my age, bangs save me from the pesky bangs or botox question. Bangs, please!
JULIA SPENCER FLEMING: My worst hair decision was back in high school, when the ‘80s perm craze was starting (see Jenn’s sad tale, above.) Tired of my Dorothy Hamill cut -
yes, I was extremely suggestible as a youth -
I got The Perm.And turned into Rosanne Rosanadana. It seems my hair shaft takes a perm really, really well, and I had to live with triangular hair for months and months until it grew out. That’s right, it never softened and fell out. That was the end of permanents for me.
No bangs. I’ve always had a round face with full cheeks; bangs made me look like a half-moon cookie. Or now, since I’ve gone silver, a full moon cookie.
HALLIE EPHRON: Whoever invented hairspray should be charged with malpractice. In the 60s Sandra Dee (remember her?) got her hair done in a “bubble.” Which required back-combing and then smoothing it into a helmet and then spraying it until it was stiff. I can’t remember how I even combed it out but it must have been painful. Years of my life were squandered in pursuit of the bubble.
DEBORAH CROMBIE: I’ve had bangs most of my life, except for a late teens shag–ironing-board straight, not Fawcett-ed!--and a few years of a classic all-one-length bob. I loved that cut, but when I started to go a little gray at the temples, not so much. Back to bangs after that. I have a long, thin face that really needs the balance, anyway.
But the horror hairstyle was the late 80s curly perm. I cannot now imagine why I thought it was a good idea. I looked like a muppet and it took YEARS to grow out. Never, ever again.
LUCY BURDETTE: Oh yes, how could I possibly forget the PERM! My mother and her sisters always got them when I was a kid–they were awful back then! My sister Sue and I were each give ½ of a Toni perm, but I got the whole thing in the late 80’s.
RHYS BOWEN: Easily the worst decision. I have the world’s straightest hair. We were on vacation in Italy. I made a sudden decision to get a perm at an unknown hairdressing salon. Result was horrendous: frizzed and fried hair that took an eternity to grow out
The other occasion was lost in translation. I went to a male stylist and said “I want it fairly short “. He heard VERY short. There was a snip and the hair on top of my head was one inch long. By then it was too late to stop. I watched it all in horrified silence. Now I have a stylist I like and trust!
HANK: Why do we make these kinds of decisions on vacation? And would that there had been a way to stop our moms from interfering. Like here. I definitely needed an intervention here.
How about you, Reds and readers?
And oh, PS. Doesn't our Maddee look GREAT?
She "did a Lucy" during the pandemic, too!
Bangs . . . definitely. [And long rather than short.]
ReplyDeleteWorst decision ever? A perm. I have fine, straight hair . . . wished for curls, got lots of frizz. As has been noted, it took FOREVER to grow out . . . .
DeleteOh, I am so sorry. You know, I’m thinking about this…
Have we ever heard anyone who said: “I got a perm! I am so happy!”
I am not sure I have ever heard those two sentences together ….
I was wondering the same thing, Hank!
DeleteI have worn bangs for many years ( now that I think about it, I had bangs as a kid too). My forehead looks weird without them .
ReplyDeleteHank, I guess I’m the oddball that liked perms back in the day. My hair looked better curled. Haven’t been able to afford one or find a stylist I liked in many years.
Worst hair decision? My freshman year Mom talked me into a very short haircut. I hated it instantly and died a thousand deaths waiting for it to grow. This was immediately followed by the Big Hair Era. At least I wasn’t alone there. We all had ginormous hair.
Jenn, what would it take for a picture of that purple faux hawk?! You know I love purple. I often threaten to put purple streaks in my hair but it’s such a dark brown that I think it would be difficult to do.
Yes, I’d like to see that too! Isn’t it funny how there are pictures of everything now, but years ago, it wasn’t so easy— so many of our bad hair days are lost forever!
DeleteI'm doing some "interesting" things with my hair, but never anything that wouldn't grow back quickly. The advantage of keeping my hair short.
ReplyDeleteTrue!
DeleteThe worst was getting a perm which burned my scalp.
ReplyDeleteYou've had short hair as long as I've known you. I can't imagine you with hair long enough to perm, Dru.
DeleteOh, poor thing! That’s awful! Xx
DeleteRemember the Pixie cut. My mom made me get one. I hated it. After that she wouldn't have my hair cut at all except to trim the ends. It was so long I sat on it. When I turned 16 and I was working, I begged my mom to let me cut some of the length off and I would pay for it. So not to shock her too much I cut it to the middle of my back. Now I keep it shoulder length or a bit longer.
ReplyDeleteSame here with mom and pixie cuts! Ugh.
DeleteWhat was the deal with pixie cuts? Was it because of Peter Pan?
DeleteHank, maybe it was Audrey Hepburn? She looked adorable with that haircut!
DeleteLucy, is there any way Audrey Hepburn would not look adorable? Unfortunately for us mortals, we do not look like that. - Melanie
DeleteWow, it seems perms are real culprits, because that was my worst decision, too. And here's the silly thing about it: I reasonably medium short hair, but when I left the house, I told my husband, "I think I'm going to have it shaped for growing long" (hich he liked very much, because most of my life I had really long hair.) While getting my trim, the hairdresser talked me into getting a perm, and the result was truly dreadful. If anyone remembers Nancy and Sluggo in the Sunday comic strip, I looked like Nancy. I looked like someone had plugged me in to an electric socket.
ReplyDeleteNow my husband is very diplomatic. If he doesn't like a cut, he says, "Well, it's not your best," or something to that effect. This time, when I walked into his office, he looked up from his computer and literally flinched. And yes, I had to live witih that stupid perm for far too long.
On another note, yes, Maddie James does look great.
Flinched! Oh.....not good...aw. xoxo
DeleteYes, I am another perm victim as a teen. I had long thin hair to the middle of my back and wanted more body in my hair. All I got was major frizz, almost like an afro. UGH.
ReplyDeleteWhy was the perm thing such a desirable option? Advertising, I guess..."which twin has the Toni?" Remember that?
DeleteI had bangs for almost forty years. Lockdown grew them out. Sometimes, I miss them. Yet, they'd grow into my eyes in no time. I don't miss that.
ReplyDeleteWhen salons re-opened--I've been with my hairdresser for so long he's a friend--my gray didn't go deep enough into my long hair to chop to the gray. (No bangs? Pixie short hair? Too much change at once, especially after a lotta social trauma. Let alone childhood hair disappointments.)
Before my appointment, I texted him with a three-image Canva of actor Grace Zabriskie, UK "Drag Race" winner Michelle Visage, and me with the caption "One of these does not look like the others."
Frankly, there are a lot of excellent reasons for me to go gray, except I'm still getting used to seeing my forehead.
Oh, you are so right--they grow OVERNIGHT!
DeleteHank, I’ve had every permutation of hair styles over the past 82 years, or at least since I’ve has hair. This includes Shirley Temple curls, French braids, home permanents, home bleaching when you dropped ammonia into peroxide until it fizzed, then burnt hair and scalp until the Monroe shade was achieved. Thank whoever invented Clarol ash blonde.
ReplyDeleteIn college I had a pageboy. In the sixties a pixie that grew out until I could tease and spray it into a beehive. More permanents and more curls in the seventies. By the eighties I settled into something short and blown dry with the occasional help of a curling iron and a generous dollop of Loving Care
By the time I met the Reds, I’d gone to platinum, short and spiky, and that continued until last month. I went in to the salon for a cut and color, and that’s when I got the word from my stylist. I didn’t need color— or lack of — any more. My hair had turned white all over!
Sigh. At least it hasn’t fallen out.
Gigi here: Your hair is beautiful, Ann, and so are you.
DeleteI love this hairstyle saga!
DeleteLove this post, Hank! I have been spared perms and bangs and colouring, too, so really having to say here, but at about age 13 or so I was desperate to get away from the 'pull the middle back and clip it with a barrette so that portion is flat and the rest is puffy' style. It took two trips to the hairdresser's to get it right, and my splendid mother persevered and I was happy. (And I haven't really changed the style since. Oy.)
ReplyDeleteWhen it works, it works!
DeleteYou and you’re hair always look great Amanda. Xo
DeleteThe summer of the pixie cut! Everyone had one, so cute, so cool...until we spent several years growing our hair long enough for a home perm. I finally achieved long hair and no bangs and left it long forever. Now it's a chin bob, but I'm not giving in to bangs.
ReplyDeleteChin bob--very chic! And yes, bangs are a big step...
DeleteI hear you, Ann. Every time I see my stylist there is less of my original dark brown and more silver. At least it's changing evenly.
ReplyDeleteMy mother desperately wanted my younger sister and me to look like Shirley Temple, so she spent way too much time torturing us with perms, silly chopped bangs, and Spoolies. Are you old enough to remember those? Little round rubber gadgets you wound hair around,then popped the top down over the hair to hold it long enough to dry into a curl. Presumably. All my school photos are nightmarish, thanks to my mother's frustrated fantasy. Plus, both of us ended up wearing hideous metallic cateye glasses in second grade, which was the rotten cherry on top. The crazy thing is that we both have nice natural curl. I didn't even realize it until adulthood, because Mother always complained about my straight hair.
Nothing I ever did to my own hair, not even the growing out poodle perm in the mid-70s, was that bad.
I chose bangs over Botox a good while back. Besides the brow wrinkles, I have had weird injuries to both eyebrows, so the hair is sparse. Bangs are way easier than fussing.
Madder looks fantastic!
Maddee!!
DeleteYes she does look fantastic! But Karen, I had those cat-eye glasses in copper sparkles. I loved them and I have been waiting since 5th grade for them to come back in style!
DeleteOh yes, we did not have that name for them, but we used spoolies, mostly at grandma's house!
DeleteLucy, I think they are back in style! You can go as wild as you want these days.
DeleteThey're much more suited to a grown woman than a seven year old, Roberta!
DeleteYes, spoolies, those pink things! Hilarious. And totally agree about the glasses--you can wear anything you want these days!
DeleteI love all these hair stories--thanks for sharing everyone! Julia, you look so much like your youngest daughter in that photo. Hallie, the helmet hair is priceless!!
ReplyDeleteYes, and we worked so hard for those helmets!
DeleteFrom Celia: Oh dear Hank and on a wet Monday too. My hair life is a cris de neuf, have I used the wrong phrase? So bad it can only be said foreign. Long hair as a child; yanked back into two braids or plaits tied with ribbon at ends. School - off the collar please, or yanked back etc. mid teens free at last, naturally blond and medium length, really quite good in retrospect. Then came back combing, hot rollers, spray, so ideal for someone with fine hair. Then time for Cilla Black. What does a girl do but off to Vidal Sassoons London hair shop where a stylist tells me NO, he’ll cut me but not a CB as it wouldn’t work. Hair up for wedding with a gorgeous faux braid bought at Selfridges. I still have it. Off to new life in NYC. What to do? Off to VS this time on Fifth, I think. Now heading into my eighth decade with fine hair now thin hair I am considering a crew cut. It looks wonderful on G’son2, yesterday graduated and my pic with him on Fb after commencement shows HAPPY. I think I’ll go with that for now.
ReplyDeleteYes, Cilla Back, a complete hair icon! I cut my own Sassoon, I have to admit. My mother was honestly hysterical. YOU CUT OFF HALF YOUR HAIR! She told me, years later, that back then she was truly afraid I had lost my mind.
DeleteWhat a set of stories - and photos! Nice choice, Maddee, both bangs and natural silver.
ReplyDeleteI always had bangs and pixie cut as a child, because my mother didn't want to hear my wails as she tried to comb out longer hair. By high school and college, I went no bangs and long hair, but certainly joined my older sisters in our share of sleeping on huge fat rollers, or gelling our hair into a flip and not moving your head until it dried, or teasing the top.
One summer in college I got a job as a nanny to a family at the beach and got a short cap of hair because I thought it would be easier. It was awful, and I started growing it out (AWKWARD) almost immediately.
I had bangs for a while as a young mom, but got rid of those. Never had a perm, I'm happy to say, and the only hair dye I've ever used is the temporary turquoise (Manic Panic for the win) I renew every few months under one side of my silver. Now I keep my side part bob trimmed and love it.
Yes, you are known for your Manic Panic! Hair, that is... :-)
DeletePerms, definitely AWFUL from the semi-annual home perms my mother and aunt gave each other and their daughters…”stunk up the house again”, Daddy would say after work…to the 1980s self-indulgence. Most humiliating hair cut: when I was in third grade, I developed the habit of sucking on the right side of my hair. Mother said, “you do that again and I’ll cut it off.” I did, she did. Lopsided hair . Elisabeth
ReplyDeleteAWww....it was just a comforting mechanism...I am so sorry for that! xoxoo
DeleteThanks, Hank. More comforting is how the chewing and the cutting brought mother and I to giggles at the point in our lives when we became friends … that bitter sweet moment when we both realized we were both grownups. Elisabeth
DeleteI'm not sure I've ever been happy with my hair! I do know that bangs are better for me than no bangs, though. I remember trying to copy styles of smooth turned under hair. Once in a while I could manage it but it was a lot of work. Nowadays my hair is very short and I don't have to do anything with it at all. Wash and go! I do run a comb or brush though it first though.
ReplyDeleteBut what is with parents and their kid's hair? My mother was always after to me to get my hair cut, which was a very good reason not to, I thought. My son had fairly long hair that drove his father wild and now my grandson has very nice 'surfer hair' but his mother and sister can't stand it. It's hair, for pete's sake, one thing the kid has some control over.
Exactly! One of my daughters wanted "sunset" colors in her ash blonde hair. My husband never liked it, but I said as long as it was temporary I didn't care. It's been every color under the sun in the last 20+ years.
DeleteI've never colored my hair, but when it gets whiter it is going some shade of violet!
Yes, it is a real familial bone of contention--and I agree, it's a way to assert power. Or ...individuality.
DeleteMaddee looks fabulous! Love her natural color and the bangs are a win on her. Mom tried a perm one Easter on my sister and me--mine was gone before we got home--fine, thick hair. Next stop at a beauty parlor came in college--waist-length hair, no bangs--should have known when the stylist came at me with what looked like gardening shears that I was going to be so sorry!
ReplyDeleteOh, I cringe at the thought! :-)
DeleteMaddee looks great! But I wouldn't call hers traditional bangs.
ReplyDeleteI used to get a "soft" perm which was more like bouncy curls which I liked as it gave my hair more body. I had thin, very straight hair and like Jenn said, I too have a large forehead so bangs soften the look.
When I was in 5th grade my mom made a hair appointment for me to get a "pixie" cut and the guy cut my bangs to about 1 ". I was a very, very unhappy camper!
Oh, WHY did they all do that??
DeleteGrade 8. I had long, wavy hair down to my waist. I wanted pierced ears. My dad said only if I cut my hair short so people could see my earrings. I'm sure he thought I'd never do it. I went to my MOM'S!!! hairdresser and got a cut he called the "windswept" which probably would have looked good on a mature woman, but not a 13 year-old kid. Disastrous -- and then my prom date saw me and DUMPED me! Jerk. I did get my ears pierced though...
ReplyDeleteYour prom date dumped you for your hair? (I wonder if you could make a good country and western song about that....) Good riddance, but I bet it didn't feel like it at the time....
DeleteOh yes it sounds like a very sad CW song, with a revenge twist at the end...
DeleteWe can write it! The revenge twist--a chignon?
DeleteThank you Hank for the laughs! As children, mom washed our hair in the kitchen sink (seems pretty un-hygienic now!) and, perhaps since she had to do everything x2, made a rule that we couldn't have long hair until we could wash it ourselves. Forced pixie cuts and bang trims at home on the kitchen chair (imagine very short bangs) were the result. Finally in middle school, Margaret and I grew our hair long. By the time senior year arrived, I was ready for a change, so I got mine cut pretty short, but still one length. After that, it was mostly long hair for me too for a long time. In my late 20s, I decided to try bangs and I have never looked back. My face is thin and I have a small rectangular forehead and thick hair, so without bangs, the hair is just in my face. With the bangs, I have gone long and short several times over the years. Now my sister has decided that we should have the same hair and that I get to decide. So it's short now, but I'm tempted to grow it out to ponytail length again. We'll see. Neither of us has ever dyed our hair or had a perm (our younger sister was the one who did all of those things)
ReplyDeletePS I am still laughing about the "assassin" photo.
DeleteMe too, Gillian!
DeleteYes, you cannot believe how long I took to get ready for that shot. Yeesh.
DeleteMaddie seems satisfied with the result and she is effectively beautiful.
ReplyDeleteI did the opposite of most of you. I had long curly hairs. When I was young, I wanted long straight braids like my friends but my mother refused and made me curly ponytails instead.
One year I decided to have them cut and chemically straightened . How disappointed I was. I didn’t recognize me any more and it was a long time before it grew and curled again.
I kept them long and curly until I began to lose them . I shortened them but as I tired of my few strands always this way or that, I decided four years ago to have them shaved for the summer.
Best decision ever. I love the look and the liberty. So from May to September I get my summer look. After that I let my hair grow for the winter because it is too cold otherwise.
Danielle
When a friend had aggressive breast cancer, she came over for me to cut her hair short so there would be less when it started to fall out from the cancer. I wanted to shave my head in solidarity, but I didn't have the nerve. I'm happy to say Anne is alive and kicking 25 years later.
DeleteYes, it can look supremely confident! Yay, Danielle, you are a rock star. xx
DeleteI had long hair in university that automatically turned into ringlets – not cool when people were ironing their hair to make it straight! On the day after graduation (1970), I went to a hairdresser and she cut it short – I should have done it years before! In years after that I had a tight curly perm (all the rage at the time) that was lovely, but so much nicer when the perm was longer and unkempt looking enough to have another cut, when it was soft gorgeous curls. Now I sport an old lady’s short cut (yes I have bangs – I can’t stand hair on my face) – at least I don’t get asked for ID at the Liquor Board Store!
ReplyDeleteMy granddaughter (6) had never had a haircut. She kept asking for a cut like Mom’s (chin length). Her father finally conceded (his is down his back). She donated 3 pieces 12” long to hair for kids. She looks beautiful!
Yup, we thought it was so awful to have curly hair--little did we know. And that's a great story about your granddaughter!
DeleteAh, hair! My middle sister maintains that if you are born with good hair, the wash-n-go stuff, it is the equivalent of being born to male white privilege: you are always light years ahead of the rest of us. And then to have had a mother who believed "short hair always looks good." On me it doesn't. Not now, not ever.
ReplyDeleteI grew up having frizzy hair-- in the Peter, Paul and Mary era of board-straight, parted in the middle, head-on-the-ironing-board, long hair. When I went away to college in New York, I tried to grow it out. I even saved up all my money for a year and blew it on Kenneth (of Jackie Kennedy fame). I walked out of there in tears.
Then I discovered George Michael of Madison Avenue, the long hair specialists who helped me grow it out. I bought their wonderfully-scented, though very expensive, shampoo and conditioner, the Kent $150 natural bristle brush (one out of each book advance), had it deep conditioned twice a year, and allowed no one else to trim it for half a century. And it was gorgeous. Except for when I went to law school in Madison, Wisconsin, hard water capital of the world-- for a number of reasons, hair being only one of them, THAT was the worst decision of my life.
In my old age, my hair is no longer black but naturally bright white. It no longer frizzes or curls. People stop me in grocery stores to tell me it's gorgeous. (Who, ME?) I can no longer see worth a nickel, so I never look in the mirror. I brush it out with a 99-cent brush from CVS. I wash it with cheap shampoo and conditioner (Suave? VO-5?) from Walgreen's or the Dollar Store. My idea of a hairstyle is holding it back with a scrunchy.
Worst idea? Madison water, chlorinated swimming pools, a summer on the Italian Riviera (after which even George couldn't save it: he cut off seven inches). Best idea? Living long enough to finally have good hair. Age has its benefits.
YES! Living long enough to have good hair. Perfect. What did Kenneth do??? That is so awful...what a disappointment!
DeleteThis is Kim. I've had short curly hair in a ball around my head all my life, except when I grew out the back (sort of a mullet) so I could wear it in a French twist with little white flowers at my wedding. I've been lucky to have easy hair. But a few times I accidentally got such a short cut that I looked weird. Thank God hair grows back!
ReplyDeleteYes, indeed--bottom line, it grows back. Whew.
DeleteMadee, the bangs look terrific on you! I bet you're glad you did it.
ReplyDeleteI had bangs as a child but they went the way of conformity when I went to high school.
My worst haircut - it was my mother' fault - my hair had begun to darken from it's natural light blonde to darker blonde. My mother hated it for some reason so, at the ripe old age of 16, she bleached my hair. It turned green and broke off to a length of about an inch all over my head, then refused to grow. She took me to Kenneth, a stylist in New York, who did something - I remember he cut it back a bit, but he also did some kind of scalp treatment that I had to follow up with at home - and it finally started to grow again. I was mortified to be living in the age of Jean Shrimpton and Jane Asher with short hair-very short hair. When it began to grow I let it go until I could sit on it. Didn't have it cut again until I was in my 20s when Locks of Love began. My hairdresser's niece had been diagnosed with cancer, my hair color was close to what hers had been, so we cut it and donated it. After years of very long hair, I found I enjoyed the ease of short and never went back. When I began working from home in 2005 I stopped coloring my hair. It had begun turning white in my late 20s and was full white by the time I was 35. Talk about a time-saver!
Whoa, what a story! ANd we have TWO Kenneth clients today--that is so interesting!
DeleteAfter a “A Star is Born “ I kept my hair permed for a couple years. It took years for my hair and scalp to recover.
ReplyDeleteAww...yup, the movies will do that! (see Farrah Fawcett, above :-))
DeleteMadee looks fabulous! Kudos to her for being brave enough to go for a new look!
ReplyDeleteSo many of the stories you've told above were my story, too. I was the victim of my mother's obsession with the pixie cut, and once of her desperate attempt to trim my bangs without taking me to a hair salon. She used pinking shears.
As soon as I was old enough to comb my own hair I started to let it grow out, and that continued until I was out of college and my hair was long enough to sit on. Sadly, that made me look like Cousin Itt. There was a lot of hair. (And let's all agree to skip over the pigtail phase, okay?)
Yes, I had a number of curly perms, and also a few body wave perms. And also the "girls gym coach" short cut when I wanted to get rid of the last bits of curly perm. I balance that against the Swamp Witch do I came out of the pandemic with. Fortunately for me, I've found a new stylist who does a great cut that I only have to brush. No wanding, ironing, hot rollering, blowdrying, spraying . . . Yep. That's the cut for me.
And thank goodness I never got my wish to be a guy so I could worry less about my head hair and just have fun with facial hair instead. Those results would undoubtedly have been tragic as well.
DeleteOoops! Not sure why Google logged me out. This is Gigi Norwood.
Gigi, what a saga! xx
DeletePinking shears??? that's a first
DeleteCurly perms. Waiting for bangs to grow out. Deshagging the shag. What we do for our art! I love reading these... We should have a hairstyle hall of fame. The celebrities that led us down the garden path: Farrah Fawcett, Dorothy Hamill, Cher...
ReplyDeleteGreat idea! Veronica Lake. Twiggy. Jean Shrimpton. Princess Diana.
DeleteFantastic post! I loved it! Jim
ReplyDeleteAnd you have the BEST hair! xx
DeleteWhen my mother first straightened my hair she made me look like a poodle. I don't feel sorry for any of you. - Keenan
ReplyDeleteHA! xoxo
DeleteHow much fun to see photos of one of my favorite people -- the talented and fabulous Madeira James! Thank you, Hank, for this wonderful, warm, entertaining post and a look at our lovely Maddee!
ReplyDeleteShe's the best!
DeleteLoved this post, Hank. And all the way through reading it I was thinking, I want to see Madee's after pic, and then there it was! (She looks fabulous!)
ReplyDeleteI'm seeing a lot of controlling mothers here--what is it with moms and their daughters hair? My mom was the worst. Even when I was an adult and a mom myself, she wanted me to have really short hair and I wore it that way for years, hating it the whole time. She (and her bossy Austrian hairdresser) even insisted on cutting baby Kayti's hair pixie short. When Kayti was about five I said "enough" and refused to take her to the hairdresser (who was married to Kayti's school headmistress, so awkward) and she's had long hair ever since. She's never forgiven me, however, for the toddler pixie, and will probably end up in therapy over it.
HA! The toddler pixie. It can be SUCH a disaster!
Deleteif that's the worst you did Debs, she won't need a lot of therapy!
DeleteOh my, yes. The perm. I always had very long, very straight hair. My mother convinced me to cut it short and get a perm. Think Little Orphan Annie. It took forever to get rid of it.
ReplyDeleteI tried the spiral perm. Fell out as soon as I washed my hair and I ended up with frizzy waves.
I had bangs forever because I also thought I had a huge forehead. The Girl convinced me to get away from them years ago and has threatened me with bodily harm if I go back. I'm not sure I could at this point.
It seems every time I decide to cut it short, because it will be "easier" to manage, I create a headache.
But I do not regret the decision to stop coloring my hair. Like Lucy, it was sort of Covid-induced. In November 2019 I decided to "try it," had one more haircut in February 2020, and by the time I saw the inside of a salon again, it was silver to my chin. So I went the rest of the way. But it's very soft and The Girl tells me it looks great. So glad not to have to spend the cash and time at the hair stylist!
SO agree, shorter is not always easier! Once I showed my hair guy Meg Ryan's spiky hair, and he gasped. "Do you know how difficult it would be to keep it like that? Your hair would never do that. No no no. " Luckily I listened.
DeleteMaddee looks fantastic!!! I now have hair envy so thanks for that! My favorite Mother's Day card of all time was one I found for my mom and it read "Happy Mother's Day, Mom. And I forgive you for all the times you cut my bangs too short." LOL!!!
ReplyDeletePERFECT. Talk about a relatable card!
DeleteI haven't sported bangs in years. My face is too short for that. That didn't stop Mom from cutting my hair and making bangs though. Straight across like a ruler. Aaagh. And permanents too. She had thin, stick straight hair and wanted curls. So she used me as her proxy. I've had a Dorothy Hamill cut; it didn't transform me. I cut my hair into a shag in the early 70s. Not bad even though Dad commented it was a shame I got my head stuck in a pencil sharpener. I went through a phase of cutting my own hair with varied results. After one cut I wore a babushka for a while.
ReplyDeleteDads. Never a dull moment. ANd ooops. The great babushka cover up...:-(
DeleteRock on, Maddee! Fabulous! I think I also fell into several fashionable hairstyle traps as described above. My mother talking me into bangs--nooo! I had curly hair and those bans curled in all kinds of odd places. Never the same from one day to another, but all bad. Then there was the Farah Fawcett debacle. Then my husband talked me into a spiral perm in the 80s. I cried non stop. Looked like Lil' Orphan Annie with brown hair. Awful. Having spent $40 I really didn't have, I went right back to the stylist and asked, begged for help to return to the aforementioned Dorothy Hamill, which, although not perfect (see curly hair) was less bad. He trimmed judiciously and lucky, unlike Julia, my hair does not hold a curl easily, it was less awful. But now that I'm gray, I have to say that my hair has more body, less curl, and is slightly less unruly. I haven't gone down the coloring route except in high school when I experimented with red. Inspired by Anne of Green Gables, my heroine. If only I was as brave as her hair was red. But red did not suit me. Sigh.
ReplyDeleteYes, hair color is a very tricky thing..and do it yourself is...even more risky. ANd yes, only Farrah could have that hair, I fear... xx
DeleteAnd Farrah died of cancer.
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~Lynda
ReplyDeleteThank you for all of the mid-'80s perm stories. My mother practically ordered me to get a perm in 1984, when my sister was engaged, "so you'll look nice for the wedding." The wedding was called off (longer story), the perm wasn't, and the only photo of me until the perm was gone was my student ID -- now destroyed, of course. I've had bangs since junior high (the better to feel less shy about my huge forehead), mostly grown out on the left now but still long and shaggy on the right. My hair's about double the length it is in my pre-pandemic FB photo, thanks to a January '20 cut that made me due for a haircut in... March '20. Oops. Still haven't had one, and I don't miss them until something snarls. As for color, it could be bright white tomorrow morning and I wouldn't care. The burnt scalp stories are just making me more sure of that -- as are the stories about how to make your hair look thicker now that you color it. I don't care what color my hair is, I just want it here!
ReplyDeleteVery wise!
DeleteI once had a perm so damaging that a student touched every head in the room and declared me the "nappiest" and added, "and you PAID someone to do that to you!" I called a halt when they started brainstorming payback, assuring them that never giving them my business in future would suffice.
ReplyDeleteStoryteller Mary
YIKES! That must have been quite the moment....but another good story for you!
DeleteGreat decision, Maddee, you look terrific! I also want to support everyone who's let their hair be its real color, pandemic related or not. My mom went completely gray in her 30s and never had her hair colored. She taught me how our complexions change with our hair color, and that gray/white/silver hair looks best when Mother Nature (or genetics) take over.
ReplyDeleteMy hair journey includes being born with fine, thin, stick straight hair and three cowlicks. My poor mom wanted me to have curls, so subjected me to those hideous Toni home permanents, which I despised, and which finally ended when I locked myself in the bathroom and Mom had to get my best friend to talk me out.
My current hairstyle, which I adopted 15 years ago, is practically a buzz cut. After a particularly difficult emotional period, I wanted a radical change, and hair was the first thing I thought of. I walked into a quick cuts type shop and asked for a buzz cut. I actually had to talk the horrified stylist into it; she kept saying I didn't want that, how about just taking off a few inches, etc. I've let it grow out a tiny bit since, and have never been happier with a hair "style." Going from past shoulder length hair to my current 1" , flecked with silver highlights, was one of my best ever decisions. I'll allow a good friend to describe it: "Wow Lynda, you look kinda cute *and* badass at the same time." ~Lynda
That is a perfect description!
DeleteCan you say Mullet? Oh yeah. It was my senior year. Remember the Olan Mills studios we all all had to use for the three poses (one in street clothes, one a black drape over the shoulder, and one in the pink fuzzy drape) to turn over to the school for the year book? We got the pack of about 12 proofs in the mail a few weeks later. She only bought the proofs grumbling that was enough of a waste of money. Mom flat out said to my face that she would not be spending her hard earned cash on those horrid pictures. The business in the front took ages to blend back in with the party in the back! Then I got the bright idea to get the 80's perm about halfway through the grown out. Not my finest hair years.
ReplyDeleteOh, dear, that is quite the hair history..xoxoo
DeleteSuch nice comments everyone, thank you! I want you to know that I normally listen to Hank (and to my daughter, who also said "don't do it!") but I was feeling rebellious. Ha!! I love my silver (doesn't that sound better than "gray"?) hair, but I also think everyone should do whatever they want -- whatever makes you feel good!! :) :)
ReplyDeleteWe love you so much, darling one! xx
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DeleteWhatever you call it--it's perfect!
ReplyDeletePat S. - I have had the pixie cut (cut by my father!) when I was very little. In 6th grade I had the Twiggy look (remember her?!). Junior high was all about growing out my hair until after my freshman year of high school when I realized that my hair is too thin and wouldn’t hold a curl. Since then I have had short hair through various styles (Dorothy Hamill, a perm done at my mom’s “old lady” salon that was NOT what a 19 year old should wear, and in my 20s, a curly, kind of cute perm). About 12 years ago a colleague who told-it-like-she-saw-it instructed me not to wear my hair so very short. So I have eased into retirement with short, but not too short, hair. I stopped the blonde highlights the summer before Covid hit and now it’s silvery.
ReplyDeleteSIlvery is great!
DeletePat S again: Forgot to say I LOVE Maddee’s new look!
ReplyDeleteAgreed!
DeleteThanks, Hank!
ReplyDeleteWow she looks great! And Hank your photos are great! I hated my hair when I did the Dorothy Hammell look. I love my hair slightly longer than shoulder length and layered with bangs because I have a ton of hair and it has decided to start going wavy/curly on me after being straight all of my life. How do you and Maddee achieve your hair color that you have now? Mine is silver and black.
ReplyDeleteOH, Maddee let hers just grow out, I think! Mine is..a journey. :-) And aw, thank you, dear friend!
DeleteI didn't see this until late last night....and I can't stop laughing.So much fun! I could have joined with the long saga of trying to get my curly hair into the the smooth, straight Joan Baez look (dating myself there), the shag era when everyone else was paying to have their hair do what mine did naturally (!), and the fact that I now have, as a senior citizen, what is essentially a pixie. And Madee looks great! Thanks for sharing, everyone.
ReplyDeleteI did have a pixie at a young age because I felt asleep with gum in my mouth. Lol But perm first year of college made me look like Annie. I was home, but when I returned to campus, I went immediately to the store and bought straightener. Didn't realize it was for African American hair. Started burning and I had to rinse out. But it actually ended up leaving me with a beachy rendition of Olivia Newton John's hair in Grease. I loved it!
ReplyDeleteLove this discussion. I have bangs- my hairdresser said it makes me look more youthful. :)
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