HANK PHILLIPPI RYAN: So earlier this week I told you the story of the chance of meeting with NANCY SCHÖN, the sculptor of the famous Boston Public Garden – – and so many other gorgeous works of public art. I told you about our newfound friendship, and how fabulous she is. But wait, there’s more.
I got an email from a guppy friend, Kelly, who had seen my newsletter that mentioned meeting Nancy.
She told me that a friend of hers named Darcy Pattison had written a children’s book about Nancy and the ducklings, and didn’t I want to know about that, too?
Well, of course I did! Of course I did!
(And meanwhile, Nancy had even given me a copy of that book at lunch .)
So, of course, reporter-me, and writer-me needed to know how it all happened. As a result, I set up an email back-and-forth among the three of us.
And here’s what I found out.
And other fun stuff, too.
HANK: How did it all happen? Take turns telling us!
NANCY SCHÖN: After I put the ducks in the Boston Public Garden, I promised Robert McCloskey that I would never put the sculpture anywhere but in Boston, where they belong. (One exception was Moscow as it was for children.) Due to that promise I have refused many people or institutions the sculpture- National Gallery, the President of Bank Luxenberg, and many others. Alice Walton, of the Wal-Mart family had created the Crystal Bridges Museum of American Art and wanted the ducklings sculpture for that museum. But then, after much searching, the then-curator of the museum suggested they purchase the Tortoise and Hare sculpture. The original sits at the end of the Boston Marathon, but I could duplicate it. And I did!
DARCY PATTISON: I live in Arkansas, the home of the Crystal Bridges Museum of American Art, established by Alice Walton (of the Wal-Mart family). While visiting there in the summer of 2022, I saw a Tortoise and Hare sculpture. I had a book just out (DIEGO, THE GALAPAGOS GIANT TORTOISE) about a turtle, so I was taking photos with any turtle/tortoise I saw.
I sat down and had a chat with this tortoise, thinking I'd use it for publicity for the Diego book.
Afterward, I wondered who the sculptor was. I didn't recognize Nancy's name at first, but when I saw that she'd done the duck family sculpture - I was hooked.
I researched her and saw she had a website. I thought she'd be in her 90s, so I expected her granddaughter to answer, but I emailed.
She answered.
NANCY: She won my heart immediately with her photo of herself and the tortoise. She asked if anyone had ever written a bio about me and I said no, but I was intrigued. So we chatted and I was honored especially after I read Friday Comes on Wednesday, a book about the Crystal Bridges Museum which Darcy wrote and Rich Davis illustrated. But most of all I loved that she introduced children to the art of the museum. From what I know, her books all have this important educational element. SO IMPORTANT! We met on Zoom , and I believe we both sensed a warm feeling and that we could work together.
DARCY: After this, we talked many times and I researched, looking for a focus for the story. With a life so rich and full as Nancy's has been, it's hard to find a focus. But a children's picture book has to be tightly focused.
In the end, I asked Nancy what she'd like her biography to say to kids.
She told me the story of working on the famous duck sculpture. At one point, she became VERY discouraged, and a friend gave her a sign, BE STRONG.
Those two simple words carried her through that project and many since. Nancy said she wanted to encourage kids to keep going in hard, dark days. (Here’s a photo from May, 2023, with Nancy sitting beneath the BE STRONG sign.)
NANCY: Darcy continued to ask questions to make sure the photos had accurate appellations. If I didn’t know, she was able by assiduous detective work find what she needed.
DARCY: After we decided to focus on encouraging kids, the story went quickly. We decided to entrust the art to Rich Davis. He worked to make the art as STRONG as Nancy. One fascinating thing is how he added sculptural elements to the art work. He painted on construction paper, cut it out and pasted it onto the images. Through it all, we kept Nancy in the loop with our progress until--we finally had proof copies.
NANCY: Rich asked me to contact people I knew best to write a sentence about me, so he could get some insights into who I was..He asked for the color of my and the kids hair and eyes. Both Rich and Darcy wanted pictures of me from the time I was a little girl until now. He was meticulous about finding out any detail about me and he in turn sent various food recipes he baked just for fun.
It was hard to go back so many years as I am constantly taking out photos for articles and other books and of course although I intend to, I never do put them back, hence my office is often quite mess.
But it was all a lot of fun and pleasant and working with these creative people who understood much about me that even I didn’t realize. It was quite a trip!
HANK: And what happened next? This!
DARCY: BE STRONG: The Rise of Beloved Public Art Sculptor Nancy Schön will release in March, 2024. We're excited to put the book into the hands of kids. For those who already love McCloskey's MAKE WAY FOR DUCKLINGS book, we hope this will extend the story and give some of the rich backstory on Nancy's work.
HANK: Can you all believe it? Happy Saturday, everyone! Thank you, Nancy and Darcy--amazing! Truly amazing.
>>Yes, well, no, well, maybe. Best to look at Nancy’s website and see! And she has lots of other sculptures and stories, too. And a fabulous book of photos of all the ways people have dressed the Public Garden ducklings!
And: What did Robert McCloskey say when he saw the statues?
>>According to Nancy, the first thing he said when he saw them in her studio, was that they “might be too big.” But then, Nancy took the ducks outside to an elementary school--if I remember correctly–and kids instantly climbed all over them. And everyone was happy.
And: Is there a book for adults about Nancy?
https://schon.com/make-way-for-nancy/index.php
And: Where can we get Darcy’s children’s book about Nancy?
Right here.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/darcypattison/strong
https://mimshousebooks.com/products/be-strong
NANCY SCHÖN's bio is SO wonderful (but long.) I know you don't want me to cut a a word of it. So click here.
DARCY PATTISON:
Children’s book author and indie publisher DARCY PATTISON writes award-winning fiction and non-fiction books for children. Five books have received starred PW, Kirkus, or BCCB reviews.
And find out much more here:
LINKS: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/darcypattison/strong
https://mimshousebooks.com/products/be-strong
Wow . . . how wonderful when everything comes together and creates something truly marvelous.
ReplyDeleteCongratulations, Darcy, on your book . . . I can't wait to read it!
Nancy, thank you for sharing your great talent with us . . . now I'm going to look up your book.
All things ducklings this Sunday, right? I wonder if trick-or-treaters will dress up as ducklings… Some always do…
DeleteThanks! It was amazing how it came together. Sometimes just reaching out to someone—like Nancy—brings amazing things to life. Thanks, Nancy! Darcy
DeleteDARCY and NANCY: Thanks for sharing the story of how you connected online and collaborated to create BE STRONG with RICH. This is a lovely way to showcase Nancy's talents to a younger audience.
ReplyDeleteAccess to public art is such a wonderful gift for all ages. THANK YOU!!!
So agree! And the books talk about Nancy’s passion for public art, and how seeing children interact with it really changed her life
DeleteWhat a lovely conversation, Nancy and Darcy, and thank you, Hank, for bringing them to us! I'm excited to read the new book. I always give Make Way for Ducklings as a newborn gift, and now it'll have a companion book.
ReplyDeleteMy boys loved visiting the ducklings when they were young. I'm not sure I've ever seen the tortoise sculpture, despite crossing that finish line in 1998 (running the Boston marathon tortoise-like on a charity number). Next time I'm in the city (from my home on the NH border), I'll make a pilgrimage there.
The tortoise has inspired many a runner, I’m sure!
DeleteSo glad you’ve seen the ducklings. Aren’t they fun! And you should go to see the Tortoise and the Hare. I love the tortoise’s smile.
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Hank, thank you so much for bringing us the story of Nancy and Darcy. It is just amazing how this all came together. The children's book looks wonderful. Not only are you a huge influence on our personal TBR piles, but now you are increasing our kids' and grandkids' TBR piles, too.
ReplyDeleteLike Edith, Make Way for Ducklings is a book that I always buy for newborns. I love the duck sculptures and think my grandsons all need to see them.
Wonderful! And delighted to help with the littles TBRs!
DeleteMake Way for Ducklings is a great newborn gift! I’m thrilled to be part of telling Nancy’s side to that story.
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How have I missed seeing the statues? Anyone up for a field trip at some point for NE Crime Bake?
ReplyDeleteThis is wonderful, to have all these serendipitous threads pulled together. And the chance meeting led to it, too. Clearly, it was meant to be, Hank.
And there's a fabulous Poe statue, too, Karen (not by Nancy)!
DeleteI didn't realize they were in the same spot, Edith, thank you!
DeleteAnd there is a Nancy Schon statue in my (and Robert McCloskey's) hometown of Hamilton, Ohio, right next to the Municipal Building. Not of ducklings, but a scene from McCloskey's first book about a boy named Lentil.
DeleteIt truly was, Karen! And I love the hamilton Ohio connection !
DeleteOne thing we added to the back of the book is the full list of Nancy’s public sculptures. And I added that list to her Wikipedia page, too, so you can see it there.
DeleteDarcy
Wow, what an amazing story Hank! I'm so glad you ran into Nancy in the PO!!
ReplyDeleteAgreed! What an amazingly life-changing moment. Thanks to Tom, the UPS guy!
DeleteThat is truly amazing how this entire project came to be! I haven't seen the duckling statues (yet) but that particular book of McCloskey's is one I have always cherished. And now a book about the statues! Thank you, Hank! And Nancy! And Darcy!
ReplyDeleteAnd isn’t it funny, too, I was just thinking… No one is saying oh, the duckling statue, I never heard of that.
DeleteHank, if you know anything about children’s literature, you know that duckling statue. Because nancy did such an amazing job of making the duck family come to life. And because she had the vision to make it something kids will love to climb on.
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Thank you so much for this post! I am happy to know about Darcy and Nancy and the book. I saw the Make Way for Ducklings sculpture years ago in Boston. I live in NW Arkansas and have taken students to Crystal Bridges on field trips. (The museum is free to the public, and Alice Walton set up a grant so busses are free and subs are paid for.) Students love the sculptures. The turtle is always a favorite, along with a hog because the UofA team is the razorbacks!
ReplyDeleteWhat a fantastic and memorable field trip for the students! And wonderful memories for you too. So great to see you here!
DeleteWow! Love this post, Hank! Happy to read about Nancy again! So glad you met Nancy! Yes, I remember the ducklings at the Boston Public Garden and the swan boats!
ReplyDeleteYour story about meeting Nancy reminded me a bit of my meeting an author at the local library some years ago. I was browsing books and a lady mentioned that she wrote mystery novels. She showed me the books that she wrote. I wish I could recall her name. I remember that she died a few years before the pandemic. We meet interesting people. I wondered if Nancy had seen you on TV ?
Although I am a grown up now, I still love to read children's books. And I want to read the children's book about Nancy written by Darcy and the illustrations are wonderful!
On another note, I woke up this morning from an interesting dream. I was on stage and Hank was interviewing me about my debut novel (historical mystery). In my dream, we were talking about having imaginary conversations with characters in our novels.
Diana
Diana, that is a lovely dream! I am incredibly honored!
DeleteOh, of course, that was me, Hank!
DeleteOh, the swan boats! They are cool, too!
DeleteDarcy
Agreed! xx
DeleteSo cool. What a wonderful project and touching story! I loved Make Way for Ducklings when I was a kid, and thought about it occasionally at 9-1-1 when we received calls about duck families crossing freeways (we would always send an officer).
ReplyDeleteYou would send an officer for the ducklings? That is the best thing I have ever heard! We all thank you!
DeleteArt in its MANY WONDERFUL forms!
ReplyDeleteWhat a wise thought! Yes, of course, brilliant!
DeleteAmazing how things came together for such a wonderful story. This would make a great Good Morning America story Hank!! Not just a local story!
ReplyDeleteAgree!
DeleteOh, what a fun idea! Yes, you truly never know…
DeleteOh, we’d love a Good Morning American. What a thought!
DeleteDarcy
Sending good duck vibes!
DeleteI just love this happy confluence of author and sculptor and author and artist... All of the arts connect, and speak to each other, and make each other better.
ReplyDeleteI look forward to seeing STRONG. When my kids were small, I collected as many children's books about art and artists as I could find - My mother did the same for me, and left me with a lifelong love of the visual arts. Now, I suppose I will have to cross my fingers and start collecting them for maybe - someday grandchildren!
Oh, brilliant in every way! Very very sweet. We are crossing fingers, too!
DeleteThe interconnection of the arts is one things that struck me as we worked on this book. From text/art of a children’s book to sculpture, and back again to a children’s book. It’s something Rich and I thought about a lot, how to honor the art of those before us.
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Kids, animals and lovely adults -- what a lovely post for a Sunday. Thank you for this, Hank!
ReplyDeleteYou can’t go wrong with that combination , I agree ! Xxx
DeleteThis was wonderful. Right now we have out-of-town, out-of-country visitors from Canada and Germany, and are taking them everywhere, so no time to respond in much detail. But I love reading about how all this came about. Thank you so much for this post.
ReplyDeleteHave fun!
DeleteFabulous!
ReplyDeleteSo agree!
DeleteOh, thanks!
DeleteDarcy
What a wonderful post!
ReplyDeleteAwwww thank you! Isn’t it amazing and wonderful how we all have the ducklings in common?
DeleteThanks to Hank for encouraging Rich, Nancy and I with this post!
DeleteDarcy
YOu are all irresistible! xxx
DeleteI love everything about this!!! Thank you so much for sharing. I've adored Robert McCloskey's work ever since my mother read ONE MORNING IN MAINE to me. What a challenge it must have felt like to bring one of his amazing creations to three dimensions. Our local elementary school has an annual duckling parade when the ducks obligingly parade through the school to the pond that lies behind it. I have now idea how they orchestrate it. Going to Nancy's site now to see what else she's been up to.
ReplyDeleteIt’s amazing how McCloskey’s work and Nancy’s work resonate with the children’s literature community, and the wider community. Art at its best!
DeleteDarcy
Yes, it's about family, and community, and love, and determination, and...so much more!
DeleteLoved, loved, loved this. And I have the book of the duck statues i costumes. Needless to say, love that too.
ReplyDeleteThe duck family statue has been surprisingly adaptable to various costumes! Such fun to see the photos.
DeleteDarcy
SO hilarious!
DeleteThis is Kathy Reel. I tried for over an hour to post on my laptop and no luck, so I thought I’d try my phone. This article is so wonderful. What a fortuitous meeting for you, Hank, and for all of us. I just love this whole story of you and Nancy meeting and your Guppy friend contacting you. I will be buying all the books there are on these ducks and Nancy.
ReplyDeleteSometimes fate does wonderful things!
DeleteDarcy
Oh, I love this so much! You absolutely made my day with this story.
ReplyDeleteIt’s been an amazing experience of serendipity! Glad you enjoyed it!
ReplyDeleteDarcy
Encouraging words! <3
ReplyDelete-- Storyteller Mary
Thanks! Be Strong!
DeleteDarcy
I love this post and Nancy's ducks!
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