Thursday, December 14, 2023

S.J. Rozan--The Remonstrance of Flushing

DEBORAH CROMBIE: We have a real treat today! The acclaimed and multiple award-winning S. J. Rozan, whose novels featuring private detectives Bill Smith and Lydia Chin brilliantly evoke contemporary New York City, gives us a thought provoking look at how New York came by its storied diversity.


Here's SJ!

THE REMONSTRANCE OF FLUSHING, or

Take that, Peter Stuyvesant!


My new book, THE MAYORS OF NEW YORK, has Bill Smith and Lydia Chin hunting for a runaway fifteen year old through many New York neighborhoods. It's a book I've had in mind for a long time, a novel that would showcase the glory of New York -- our diversity.

New York is the most diverse city in the world. 'Twere ever thus: in 643 a French Jesuit missionary reported that eighteen different languages were spoken by local inhabitants. (No record of whether he was counting the Lenape.) A lot of reasons exist to help explain this, the most obvious of which is that we're on the edge of a resource-rich land mass previously unknown to Europeans. If you wanted to try your fortune in the New World, New Amsterdam was and New York became an obvious place to touch down. Beyond that, though, two little-known-except-to-historians events had a major role in turning New York City into a place that welcomes everyone.

In 1654 Peter Stuyvesant, the governor of the Dutch colony of New Amsterdam, wrote to the Dutch West India Company back in Holland asking them to order Jews who had settled in his colony to remove themselves. The Jews also wrote, saying they'd leave if they had to but then there'd be nobody to watch over their trading businesses so they'd have to close them. The directors of the Company wrote back, basically asking Stuyvesant who he thought was financing his little colony over there. The Jews got to stay. Stuyvesant was incensed.

He also wasn't finished. The Dutch had other settlements in the area, to which his governorship extended. One of them, the village of Vlissingen (spoiler: this deteriorated into "Flushing"), way out on Long Island (spoiler: not so far away, now part of Queens) had, though Dutch, been settled largely by Brits. Stuyvesant had never been there so he didn't really care, until he got word that a group of Quakers fleeing England had settled there. Well, dammit, he had to let the Jews stay in New Amsterdam, but Quakers in Vlissingen? No. Just, no.

He wrote to the Dutch king, suggesting everyone not of the Dutch Reformed faith be banished from Vlissingen. This time he sent a list: Jews, Turks, Egyptians, Presbyterians, Independents, Baptists, and Quakers. Not that there were any Egyptians around, and no one quite knew what he meant by "Independent." But he was thinking ahead. Once this banishment was enacted he'd have ammunition to go back and rid New Amsterdam of... all the folks he didn't like.

And the moral of the story is, don't overreach.

The king at first agreed; but a group of non-Quaker (but non-Dutch-Reformed) British citizens also wrote to the Dutch king. They spoke of "The law of love, peace and liberty... which is the glory of the outward state of Holland..." and ended, "Therefore if any of these said persons come in love unto us, we cannot in conscience lay violent hands upon them, but give them free egress and regress unto our Town, and houses, as God shall persuade our consciences." And the "said persons?" Yes indeedy, they sent a list: Jews, Turks, Egyptians, Presbyterians, Independents, Baptists, and Quakers.

This document was the Remonstrance of Flushing, written two days after Christmas, 1657. The Dutch king didn't take much persuading; he was collecting taxes from a flourishing village and why was it in his interest to rile up its inhabitants? If they wanted to live with Quakers and Egyptians, let them. He reversed himself and told Stuyvesant to mind his own business.

After that, it was essentially open doors all around. By the time the British seized New Amsterdam from the Dutch in 1665 there were yet more languages being spoken; now there are over 115 in Queens alone. There's historical evidence that at least some of the Founding Fathers had read the Remonstrance and that separation of church and state was written into the Constitution based on it.

And now? From Harlem to Staten Island to Jackson Heights, every neighborhood, every restaurant, every street I put into THE MAYORS OF NEW YORK is real. Every room I wrote about, I've been in (though some weren't used for the purposes I claim) and of course, every food I wrote about, I tasted. And I'm thrilled I was able to do that. But there's so much more to show. I guess, a bit like that fool Peter Stuyvesant, I'm not done yet.

DEBS: I was so fascinated by this story that SJ sent me the link to the historical document, The Remonstrance of Flushing, and it is truly remarkable. It is also, I think, very appropriate in this season of goodwill. 

Here's more about SJ:



SJ Rozan is the bestselling author of 19 novels and 85 short stories. Her work has won the Edgar, Shamus, Anthony, Nero, and Macavity awards, and the Japanese Maltese Falcon.She was born in the Bronx and now lives in Manhattan. Her latest book is THE MAYORS OF NEW YORK.

DEBS: And here's more about THE MAYORS OF NEW YORK.

In January, New York City inaugurates its first female mayor. In April, her son disappears. Called in by the mayor's chief aide—a former girlfriend of private investigator Bill Smith’s—to find the missing fifteen-year-old, Bill and his partner, Lydia Chin, are told the boy has run away. Neither the press nor the NYPD know that he’s missing, and the mayor wants him back before a headstrong child turns into a political catastrophe. But as Bill and Lydia investigate, they turn up more questions than answers.

DEBS: SJ will be stopping in to chat, and if you have favorite New  York stories, share them with us!

60 comments:

  1. History [especially in New York] is always fascinating . . . .
    Congratulations, SJ, on your newest book . . . I'm looking forward to reading "The Mayors of New York" . . . .

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  2. Absolutely fascinating! Congratulations on the new book, SJ. I can't wait to read it!

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  3. As a Quaker, I love this story! We're always causing trouble. And the new book sounds fabulous, SJ - congratulations.

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    1. The Meetinghouse the Quakers built after they were allowed to stay is still there and still in use.

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    2. Thanks! I shared this post with a fFriend, and she mentioned the Meetinghouse.

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  4. I love Lydia and Bill (particularly the short stories!). I've only been to NYC as a tourist (twice and I loved it), but you also reminded me today of one of my other favorite mystery series ;-) that highlights NYC's diversity, the Maan Meyer series. It was a historical mystery series that was written by a married couple under one pseudonym and they had the clever idea of rather than doing one detective and one time period, they would trace one family through time. So interesting and they definitely showcase a lot of different cultures and how they intermingle. The first one is set in the 1660s in New Amsterdam and Peter Stuyvesant and the a small Jewish community are a big part of the story.

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    1. Jill! I had to google it because I couldn't remember the author (I read these a long time ago), but I loved this series--and wanted more books set in the 1660s. The characters and time period were fascinating.

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    2. Yes, Marty and Annette Myers collaborated on that series. They were great New York lovers, too.

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    3. Aw, I remember Marty and Annette. And those books were terrific.

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    4. Just checked - Amazon carries the Maan Meyers series if your local library doesn’t.

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  5. S. J., I had no idea! What an interesting answer to a question that I never thought to ask! I am going to spend some time digesting it. To me, NY's diversity was always a given.

    The subject of your new book is fascinating. I am off to check out your series.

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    1. Thanks! Yes, the best answers are the ones to the questions you didn't ask.

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  6. S.J.:As a long-time reader of your series, I am always happy to hear there is a new Lydia/Bill book! NYC reminds me a lot of my hometown of Toronto, which is also known for its diversity and unique neighbourhoods.

    Thanks for sharing this history about NYC's diversity & open door policy from the early years. I have only been to NYC as a tourist in my childhood & enjoy virtually exploring the city through books such as yours.

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    1. Thanks! You're welcome to come back anytime!

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  7. Debs, I just gave the blog to Irwin to read. He grew up in Albany and I asked him if he knew about Peter Stuyvesant. He said, "Yes, but this wasn't taught in school."

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    1. So glad Irwin enjoyed it, too, Judy!

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    2. When I was in school in the Bronx we were taught that Peter Stuyvesant was the Dutch governor of New Amsterdam, and then the British came, end of the Dutch part of the story. We certainly didn't learn anything about his intolerance and attempts to shape the colony. I'm not sure we'd have been taught anything at all if his name weren't scattered here and there throughout the city.

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  8. S.J.,

    I’m so excited to hear that there’s a new Lydia/Bill book out!

    I love history. I live close enough to NYC (southern Connecticut) that I feel like I’m part New Yorker, even though I haven’t been there since before the pandemic. One of my grandfathers was born in Manhattan, and moved to Connecticut as a child. So there’s that connection, too.

    On my to-do list: search out NYC history at the library. Get your new book.

    Thanks for being here today!

    DebRo

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    1. Connecticut: the seventh borough. (New Jersey is the sixth.)

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  9. Congratulations on your latest! I look forward to reading it. My husband's grandfather was a Russian Orthodox priest who moved to NYC with his family to serve at St Nicholas Cathedral on 97th Street. My husband's uncles told stories about the twenties street and international food markets in the area. The cathedral was funded by Czar Nicholas and is still administered by the Patriarch in Moscow. We tried to visit the cathedral, but it was closed, no visitor appointments available.

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    1. I know that cathedral! Haven't been in it, though. They still hold services -- will have to go up there one Sunday. It's supposed to be beautiful inside and I know it is outside! https://ruschurchusa.org/en/

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  10. I had never heard of the Remonstrance of Flushing--but it did bring to mind Maan Meyers' historical mysteries, as noted by Jill above. THE DUTCHMAN is the first in the series.

    S.J., thanks for sharing this bit of history and congratulations on the latest Bill/Lydia book. I will be adding this to my list of books to read. I had already seen some excellent reviews, but it's good to be reminded!

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  11. What a fabulous story. Congratulations, SJ!

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  12. How exciting! I’m a longtime fan of Bill Smith and Lydia Chin so looking forward to reading this … I also ❤️ New York. So happy to see you here SJ

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  13. My husband was born in Brooklyn, but grew up in Flushing! I am giving him this fascinating blog right now… I wonder if he knows about it.
    How did you first come across it? And why?
    And this sounds like the perfect gift – – a wonderful story, with a little reminder of the kind of people we need to be.
    So wonderful to see you here today ! Xxxxx

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    1. Hank, I'm giving it to my daughter!

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    2. Hi, Hank! I first came across this story many years ago when I took a walking tour of Flushing, with an emphasis on religious buildings. We saw the original Meetinghouse the Quakers built once they'd been allowed to stay, as well as some Buddhist temples, synagogues, and the largest Hindu temple in the US. I'm betting your husband knows about the Remonstrance -- let me know.

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  14. Wow, what an awesome story about Peter Stuyvesant and the pushback he got when he wanted to exclude people. Thanks so much for sharing. It reminds me of the novel Golden Hill by British writer Francis Spufford, Set in New York City about 100 years later than Stuyvesant, when New York was a British colony and a bustling, lively, diverse place, it's a wonderful book..

    I'll look for your books, S,J. They sound great!

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  15. Welcome to the blog SJ, so delighted to hear about another book in this wonderful series!

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  16. what an interesting history of new york back in the 1600's - times don't change much when it comes to immigrants or people who are different.

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  17. Welcome to the blog. I remember reading stories about Stuuveyesant.

    There was a Dutch ancestor who arrived in New Amsterdam with his wife and children (also my ancestors) on a Dutch ship translated into English words "Spotted Cow" about a year before New Amsterdam became New York.

    Question: Did you start your series in the 1990s? I seem to recall reading about your books a long time ago.

    Diana



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    1. Hi! I thought I answered this last night but my answer's not here. Yes, I started in the mid 1990's. I'm an OG in this biz. ;-)

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  18. I was so fascinated by the Dutch governor of New Amsterdam trying to remove people he thought shouldn't be in his colony that I missed the sentence for the intro to the book's description. I was suddenly reading about the first female mayor for the city of New York and wondered when New York elected a female mayor.

    I meet so many more authors because of this blog. I now get to check out your books. First female mayor of New York, most interesting.

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    1. Alas, that part of the book is fiction. New York has yet to elect a female Mayor.

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  19. Hi, SJ. You already know I'm a Lydia-and-Bill fan, and now I'm a fan of your story about Flushing's tolerance. A tale of America as we want it to be. Also glad to learn the truth about Peter Stuyvesant instead of some kids' history version. I love New York and have been visiting at least once a year for years because my uncle lives there. I know Manhattan best, but now that all my friends' young adult kids live in Brooklyn, I'm getting to know it, too!

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    1. Brooklyn's a fascinating place. If it were a separate city -- as it used to be -- it would be the 3rd most populous in the state.

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  20. Oh, I love this! What a wonderful story, and what a provocative book. NY stories? I lived in Fresh Meadows for years (go to Flushing, turn right) four brownstones from Kissena Park at the same time Son of Sam was active. Howard Cosell's brother lived a few streets over. They looked like twins. I don't remember his name, but he used to walk his basset hound past my house. He also looked out for me because I was a runner and sometimes ran in the park. A very nice man.

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    1. I sort of see Howard Cosell looking like a bassett hound, actually...

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  21. Oooh, can't wait. Ordering today. A Hanuka present from me to me. History, New York, diversity. My articles folder has had one about this topic for years. ...And with SJ's writing and characters? My kind of book for sure.

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  22. S.J., I'm a born and bred (upstate) New Yorker - heck, I was a Regent's Scholar in American History! - and I can't believe I've never heard about the Remonstrance of Flushing before. What a wonderful piece of our heritage to celebrate.

    In this season of light against the darkness, may we all live in peace with our neighbors, the Jews, the Turks, the Egyptians, the Presbyterians, the Independents, the Baptists, and the Quakers.

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    1. I think "American History" is thought of as starting around the mid-18th C. Nothing that happened before that is seen as having a direct bearing. I was astounded when I learned about it, too.

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  23. Congratulations on The Mayors of New York. I always assumed NY was diverse from the get-go, so I learned a lot from this post! The book sounds great. I love this approach (telling the story through the neighborhoods.)

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    1. It was, from the get-go, but that wasn’t a given. We were lucky.

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  24. Manhattan-born, I had always wondered where the name Flushing came from! Lived there 2 years in the 1960s. Queens was rich with ethnicities, neighborhoods, foods, clothing styles, languages, cultural behaviors - bewildering at times!

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    1. Even richer now with even more of them!

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  25. If SJ's book inspires anyone to dig deeper into early NY history - and SJ can be pretty inspiring - may I recommend the non-fiction Island at the Center of the World by Russell Shorto? I already knew some of the facts...and I was still surprised and fascinated.

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    1. Excellent book! Also, if you're looking for a fascinating picture of Manhattan (but only Manhattan, for reasons that become clear early in the book) throughout the centuries, Pete Hammill's FOREVER is essentially every great story Hammill ever heard about New York all in one fictional piece.

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  26. This is amazing! I had no idea that NYC's diversity was established form its beginnings. And I really love the line: "Therefore if any of these said persons come in love unto us, we cannot in conscience lay violent hands upon them, but give them free egress and regress unto our Town, and houses, as God shall persuade our consciences."

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  27. The whole thing is beautifully written. Here's the text: https://web.archive.org/web/20040327010425/http://www.nyym.org/flushing/remons.html

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  28. Oh, SJ! With your exquisite eye for detail I can't wait to read the NYC you breathe life into on your pages!

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