Tuesday, December 5, 2023

Writing From Fear by Jennifer McMahon




LUCY BURDETTE: Hallie and I went on book tour with today's guest a number of years ago. Jennifer is the sweetest, kindest person you can imagine--and today she writes about the question we both had: How does this quiet, kind person write THOSE books?? Welcome Jennifer!




JENNIFER MCMAHON: At an event for my latest novel, My Darling Girl, someone asked me, “You seem like such a nice, normal person – how can you write such scary stuff?” It’s certainly not the first time I’ve been asked, and in the last few years, I think I’ve come pretty close to the answer.

I wrote my first short story in the third grade, a school assignment – it was about a boy who is pursued by the glowing green apparition of a meatball he had eaten for dinner. Writing that story opened a door to a world I got lost in. It was the first time I remember doing something where I truly forgot all about all the real life stuff happening around me, where I lost track of time and reality, and realized I could make anything happen – it was magic.

My teacher, the amazing Mrs. Brennan, loved my haunted meatball story, and encouraged me to write more and bring them to her. So I wrote a story about a mud monster. Then another about a boy who discovers a dead body behind the wall in his bedroom. Each day after school, I sat myself down at our dining room table and wrote scary stories. Of course at the time, I didn’t think about why I was drawn to write about the things that unsettled me, the terrible imaginings that kept me up at night.

As an adult who makes my living writing novels in which scary things happen – whether it’s a serial killer or a vengeful ghost or a possible demonic possession – I’ve thought a lot about what drives me to explore the darker side of fiction and creativity. I was an anxious and fearful kid who loved monster movies and ghost stories, loved terrifying my little brother and the neighborhood kids with elaborate pranks. In addition to my early love for fictional horrors, I had a lot of real world things to worry about. My mom was an alcoholic who struggled with mental illness. I was never sure who or what I might find when I got home from school each day – happy, manic mom who was ready to whisk me off on some adventure; morose, drunk mom who’d locked herself in her room; or perhaps, unconscious mom with empty booze and/or pill bottles beside her.

I think that reading and writing scary stuff didn’t just help me escape – it made me feel braver. It was horror I could control. I could close the book, stop writing the story when I got too scared. And exploring my fears on the page, be it through reading or writing, helped me to learn things about myself. Maybe it even helped me build coping skills. And no matter how scared I got, there was this immense rush at the end because I’d faced this terrible thing on the page and survived. I was able to carry that bravery with me into the real world and maybe, just maybe, be a little less afraid.

We’ve all heard the writing advice: What what you know. But my own take on that, my own writing mantra is Write what scares you. I’ve realized that to get to the truly good stuff, the stuff that gets my heart racing and mind whirling, I need to tap into my own fears. When I drag them out from the under the bed or from inside closet into the light day, I can explore them safely, poke at them with long sticks, ask my fears questions and learn truths about myself in the process. And now, as then, it makes me feel more brave. More alive.

Despite this, my latest book, My Darling Girl, was a story I tried really hard not to write. There are things that “scare you,” and then there are things that TERRIFY you, you know? For me, that includes demons – the kind that possess a person, wear them like a mask, make them do terrible things, beyond their control. And we all know that demons must be summoned. Writing an entire novel about a woman who comes to believe her estranged, dying mother is actually possessed by a demon seemed even more risky than playing with a Ouija board. And yet, after years of playing with the idea, pulling it out and poking at it, testing it, telling myself that I needed to follow my own advice, I did it anyway.

I think third-grade Jennifer would be proud.

Reds and Readers, how do you feel about scary or terrifying stories?

Jennifer McMahon is the New York Times Bestselling author of twelve novels, including Promise Not to Tell, The Winter People, and her latest, My Darling Girl. She lives in Florida with her partner, Drea.

About the book:

The New York Times bestselling author of the “otherworldly treat” (People) The Drowning Kind and The Children on the Hill returns with a spine-tingling psychological thriller about a woman who, after taking in her dying, alcoholic mother, begins to suspect demonic possession is haunting her family.

Alison has never been a fan of Christmas. But with it right around the corner and her husband busily decorating their cozy Vermont home, she has no choice but to face it. Then she gets the call.

Mavis, Alison’s estranged mother, has been diagnosed with cancer and has only weeks to live. She wants to spend her remaining days with her daughter, son-in-law, and two granddaughters. But Alison grew up with her mother’s alcoholism and violent abuse and is reluctant to unearth these traumatic memories. Still, she eventually agrees to take in Mavis, hoping that she and her mother could finally heal and have the relationship she’s always dreamed of.

But when mysterious and otherworldly things start happening upon Mavis’s arrival, Alison begins to suspect her mother is not quite who she seems. And as the holiday festivities turn into a nightmare, she must confront just how far she is willing to go to protect her family.


64 comments:

  1. Congratulations, Jennifer, on your newest book . . . scary though it sounds, it's in my massive to-be-read pile . . . .

    I'm okay with scary [or even terrifying] stories . . . to a point. If the book's blurb sounds too scary, I simply put it back on the shelf.

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    1. Thank you, Joan! I totally get what you're saying about some books sounding too scary!

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  2. I tend to shy away from scary. At least most of the time. But I know others love it.

    Congrats on your new book!

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    1. I get it, Mark. Scary isn't for everyone. Happy reading!

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  3. Wow - just the book blurb terrified me, Jennifer. Congratulations on conquering the story!

    I write much gentler crime fiction than you, but I had the same sense of control during the pandemic lockdown year(s). Writing was such a refuge for me. My story was basically the ONLY thing I could control, and I could make the world of my characters right again at the end. Not so easy outside my windows. I know some author friends just couldn't write during that time, but I was extra productive.

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    1. I love this, Edith and I totally agree. I wrote a lot during the pandemic because of that very reason — it was the one thing I could control. Writing was the one thing I could do that made me feel sane and together and like I could handle things. For me, writing dark stuff is a way to help me handle dark times.

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  4. Jennifer, congratulations on your new book. I do not choose to be terrified when reading or when watching TV or films, although occasionally I have and probably will again. Fortunately, many people do want to be frightened by stories and can hardly wait for the next opportunity.

    There are terrifying things happening in this world every day and those real stories haunt me. The events of October 7 have me waking in the night, miserable and in despair. I cannot hide from the reality of what happened nor the world's indifference, denial and vicious celebration of the brutality inflicted. Some demons are real.

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    1. Judy, I absolutely hear you. There is no denying the world is full of real horrors (many of which keep me awake at night, too).

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  5. I did go through a period when I was 11 and 12 when a friend and I would read horror comics and go to the movies to see horror films (The Thing comes to mind). I have never really liked horror stories or films since, though. Never saw The Poltergeist or The Shining or Carrie or The Creature from the Black Lagoon, The Omen, any of those, and I don't read horror, either. But when I was teaching, it amazed me how much the kids love horror. (Of course, looking back, I taught primarily 6th grade, and that was the age I was so into horror.)

    On another note, I'm glad writing horror has worked so well for Jennifer. And the new book sounds really scary. All the best to its success.

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    1. Hi Elizabeth, John Carpenter's The Thing scares me to this day! And I think a lot of kids are drawn to horror. Years ago, I did writing workshops at my daughter's middle school and all those kids LOVED writing gruesome and terrifying stuff.

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  6. Jennifer, congratulations on your newest book. I love to be scared. It started for me as a kid staying up late on Saturday nights watching the Double Creature Feature. Then I started reading books like Jaws and The Exorcist. It kind of runs in the family as my bother and sister and I would trade books or my brother would get so excited about something he read that he would tell me to come in to his room and read a few pages. I miss those days.

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    1. Thanks, Paula! I loved all those old monster movies! They were kind of my gateway into the horror world. I remember reading Jaws and being terrified! And I was like your brother — when I read something extra scary, I couldn't wait to share it and would read it to my brother and my friends.

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  7. Congrats on your book release. It depends on how scary the book is (meaning narrative and description)

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    1. Thanks Dru Ann! And I get it — everyone has their scary meter!

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  8. Your analysis of why you began to write scary stuff as a child and why you still do is fascinating, Jennifer, and it makes perfect sense. I don't have an explanation for why I avoid scary books and movies, but perhaps that has something to do with MY childhood since my sister feels the same way.

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    1. Some people are just not drawn to the scary stuff. I have good friends who just never liked the feeling of being scared and don't get it at all.

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  9. Congratulations, Jennifer, on the new book! I enjoy an occasional scary book, but for me, a little goes a long way. This one sounds fascinating, though. I love the idea of finding your bravery through reading and writing what scares you.

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    1. Thanks, Annette! I get what you're saying about a little going a long way. There's slightly unsettling, then there's outright terror. The wonderful thing is, there are stories and books out there all along the spectrum.

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  10. I love spooky and gothic, but not too gory and I have to be in the right mood. No serial killers.Yuck. Give me straight up ghosts any day.
    I think your view on why you're drawn to what you write makes a lot of sense. There's that old G.K. Chesterton quote (and this is just a rough paraphrase) "Fairy tales don't teach children dragons exist. Children know dragons exist. Fairy tales show them that dragons can be beaten."
    My son who loves to read is starting to explore spookier things. He is still pretty scaredy cat (I was and still am to an extent) but he wants to broaden his horizons a bit. I know this thought is not original to me, but it seems like puberty and high school can feel terrifying and mysterious and that's why so many teenagers seem drawn to horror.

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    1. I love that you'll take ghosts over serial killers any day, Jill! And that is a truly wonderful quote about dragons! You're right — puberty and high school are definitely terrifying. The whole concept of our bodies changing in unfamiliar ways, of feeling out of control, of having one foot in childhood and one foot in adulthood — it's scary and otherworldly. Totally makes sense for young people to be drawn to horror.

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    2. That is a great quote! Fairy tales show them that dragons can be beaten.

      Diana

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    3. What a great woute thanks!!

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  11. I have trouble reading (or watching) scary stuff, but i LOVE Jennifer's work. Go figure... And wasn't that third grade teacher a saint? And how lucky she must have felt to have you for a student, Jennifer.

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    1. Yes exactly on the 3rd grade teacher--what a gem she was, luckily for all of us!

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    2. Thank you, Hallie! And yes, Mrs. Brennan was THE BEST! I actually looked her up and thanked her when my first book was published. She was thrilled.

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  12. JENNIFER: Congratulations on your new book! Your explanation of why you write scary stuff makes a lot of sense.

    I do like reading thrillers and paranormal books, so I can handle scary or spooky stories. But stories that are too gory or terrifying may be beyond my reading tastes these days. I can't read or watch horror movies.

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    1. Thanks, Grace! Yeah, I get it -- gore isn't for everyone. As a writer, I don't put much gore into my books . But I find I enjoy it as a reader when it's done well. I cringe and might yelp a little, but I enjoy it.

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  13. I think you said it so well as to why you write horror stories when you said, "It was horror I could control." Thank you for your fascinating explanation Jennifer.

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    1. Thank you! I think people who are drawn to the darker side of fiction all have their own reasons, but that's mine. These days, there's a lot of real horror in the world and I still find comfort in the horror I can control in my own stories.

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  14. Congratulations Jennifer! I love your explanation of why you write such terrifying stories. My heart goes out to the child you were who needed to control the narrative. I can handle suspense in books and movies, but like other commenters, don't like the truly terrifying. I tried reading a couple of Stephen King novels when I was pregnant 36 years ago and decided they were just too scary.

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    1. Thank you, Gillian. And I get it — we all have our own built in terror scale. What I love is that there are books out there for all of us, no matter what level of suspense or fear we're looking for.

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    2. We all have our built in terror scale. Diana

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  15. Congratulations on your book! I’ve seen is everywhere and have loved listening to your interviews. With scary things books don’t usually bother me but movies is a whole different thing. We had a well in the yard growing up (it wasn’t even real, just decoration) and after watching The Ring I was scared of it at night.

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    1. Thanks, Sheri! That's so interesting that scary books don't bother you, but movies do. The Ring is a terrifying movie! (I find wells super scary… in fact, there's one in My Darling Girl!)

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  16. Jennifer, sounds like Mrs. Brennan could see how cathartic that meatball was for you; teachers often know which kids have upsetting home lives. What a brilliant idea, to channel your talents into what had to be almost a self-care mechanism.

    It's funny how we all cope so differently. My own terrifyingly unstable childhood drove me into books that helped me get lost somewhere else, usually somewhere much safer. Worlds where all the parents were loving and provided a warm and cozy home life, or where if there were bad guys they were vanquished satisfactorily. I didn't then, and don't know, enjoy anything that makes me check under the bed, either in print or on the screen.

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    1. I think it's really fascinating how we all cope differently, Karen! My brother grew up loving fantasy stuff — The Lord of the Rings and playing Dungeons and Dragons. I can totally see why you would turn to books with comforting and cozy homes. I love that we all find the stories we need at the times we need them.

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    2. Karen, books can be a great comfort. I find comfort in cozy stories. Diana

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  17. Welcome to Jungle Reds, Jennifer and congratulations on your new novel!

    How fortunate that you had a teacher like Mrs. Brennan encouraging your writing talents. Your story about writing as a child reminded me of something someone told me. They mentioned that adults, who are talented as artists or writers, start developing their talents as children.

    We all cope differently. Like Hermione in Harry Potter, I was bullied in school. My way of coping was to write stories where the bullies were vanquished. Writing and creating stories is like magic to me. And reading books was my escape from the harsh reality of being bullied.

    Diana

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    1. Thanks, Diana! Yes, I feel very lucky to have had a teacher like Mrs. Brennan. I'm sorry to hear you were bullied, but happy to hear the stories you wrote helped you cope. I think both reading and writing can save us at our darkest moments.

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  18. Jennifer, I just finished this book, and it was incredible! Each character was so well written and defined. I too wondered how and why you’d be drawn to such scary subjects? Now I understand, there is almost nothing more frightening than looking into the face, of a drunken alcoholic mother. All the things we’re told mother is and should be are missing and in there place, a cold unpredictable unrecognizable monster. I love your books and look forward to every one. A perfect storyteller for sure. Thank you!

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    1. Thank you so much for reading My Darling Girl! I'm glad you enjoyed it. It's certainly true that not being able to trust this person that you should be able to rely on is really scary and traumatizing for a lot of people.

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  19. Thank you so much, Heather! We not only share a last name but a love for darker stories! That's so great about an early teacher who helped you discover your love of math. I love hearing stories about teachers who nurture our early passions.

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  20. I like reading horror during October but am admittedly one to sleep with the lights on afterwards...aprilbluetx at yahoo dot com

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    1. October is the perfect time for horror! And I need to sleep with the lights on when I've been reading a scary book, too!

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  21. I love horror and the supernatural, Jennifer, and MY DARLING GIRL sounds like the sort of story my friends and I would terrify each other with during sleepovers - while using someone's Ouija Board, of course!

    The (Stephen) king of horror says something quite similar about his writing process; that he drags out his own fears out from under the bed and into the light. It seems to work well for him! :-)

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    1. Thanks, Julia! Ah, yes, how well I remember sharing scary stories and using the Ouija board at sleepovers! There is something powerful and cathartic about dragging your own fears out and putting them on the page — and Stephen King does it so well.

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  22. I had the same mother (absent the manic highs but with a lot of conveniently timed suicide attempts) but as a writer I've never edged up to my child and teenage fears. I seem to seek out the alternative world I dreamed about, even when I'm writing murder mysteries! Interesting how we develop coping skills as children that have such an impact all through life. Good for you - a brave child!

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    1. I agree, Susan — it is interesting how we develop coping skills when we're kids that have such an impact all through life. I love how the alternative worlds we dream about as kids stay with us and show up in our writing even now.

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  23. I'm fascinated with scary stories. Will the protagonist flee or stay and fight? My big brother and I adored horror movies and saw as many as we could as kids. I stopped reading Stephen King years ago when Cujo appeared. (You'd do that to the family dog?) Recently I've read Grady Hendrix and Isabel Canas. Haunted, spooky, ghosts, vampires, but not threatening pets and children. So far. I'll be real interested to read your take on spooky happenings, Jennifer!

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    1. Thanks, Pat! Grady Hendrix and Isabel Canas are wonderful! Hedrix's book My Best Friend's Exorcism is a fun demon possession novel! I went to high school in the 80s so all his pop culture references were spot on for me and he perfectly captured the drama of high school friendships (but ratcheted things up with a possession!).

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  24. Congratulations on My Darling Girl, Jennifer--and what a stunning cover! Weirdly, I don't like thrillers but can read horror and paranormal stuff. I guess I prefer my monsters not to be human. Your reason for writing scary stories makes perfect sense to me.

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    1. Thanks, Deborah! Yes, the folks at Gallery did a nice job with the cover. Human monsters are the worst sort. It's much easier for me to read about (and write about!) demons, ghosts, and shapeshifters. My daughter loves true crime. I can't do it. It's too much.

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  25. Can't do scary--won't even read many thrillers because of the uncertainty (at least in a mystery, the deceased often happens off-camera, so to speak. Then it's on to figuring out whodunit). But I understand that many people enjoy reading horror and thrillers--I've scared myself silly doing this, so no longer.

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    1. I get it, Flora. It's not for everyone. Luckily for you there are so many WONDERFUL mysteries out there (including the many published by the amazing Jungle Red ladies!) to get lost in!

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  26. Congratulations on your latest, and thank you for a glimpse into your backstory. I'm looking forward to reading My Darling Girl.

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  27. Hi, Jennifer, I just read The Winter People - loved it! I think your advice is brilliant. I know when I'm writing I frequently choose the less terrifying path because it's expected in traditional/cozy mysteries but as I have decided to go forth into a new genre, I am going to try and terrify myself - at least a little. I can't wait to read My Darling Girl. Thanks so much for visiting us today!

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    1. I'm so happy you enjoyed The Winter People, Jenn. And I'm thrilled to hear that you're going to try to terrify yourself with your writing! I can't wait to see what you do!

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  28. SO late!!! Argh. But you know I am such a fan--and this is an adorable story about your literary beginnings! I ill never look at meatballs the same way. And I am grateful for that! Cannot wait to read My Darling Girl!

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  29. ANd yeah, hmmm. Here's a thought-provoking thing: WHen Tess Gerritsen's mother read Tess's first novel, her response was : "It 's good, but could be scarier." Now , as I write, I think of that every day.

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    1. I haven't heard this story before. I LOVE it! I'm going to be thinking about it while I write, too.

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