HALLIE EPHRON: Okay, I admit it. I am Kate Hohl's #1 fan. She showed up in the summer workshop I gave a few years ago at Yale and her writing shone. She had talent, plain and simple. And she seemed to have the drive you need to start writing a story and pursue it long past the finish line and past the inevitable rejections that aspiring writers must endure.
What happened next wasn't as straightforward as I'm sure it would have been in any other year. She should have had publishers queued up, wanting to publish her...
But I'll let her tell it. It has a wonderfully happy ending and I trust more good news in the future.
Take it away, Kate...
KATE HOHL: Hi Reds and Readers! A big thank you to Hallie and all the Reds for extending the invitation to join you again today on the Jungle Reds blog.
I recently found out that my short story, “The Body in Cell Two” has been nominated for the Robert L. Fish Memorial Award for Best Debut Short Story, presented by the Mystery Writers of America at the annual Edgar Awards. I’m so grateful to Janet Hutchings and Ellery Queen Mystery Magazine for publishing my story about a young woman who attempts to escape her past by running to a small Maine town only to have trouble find her once again.
It was such a thrill to see my name in print for the first time and a huge honor to be nominated for my first published work. But it was far from the first thing I’d written.
A few years ago, I won a novel writing contest. Like many first-time authors, I was beyond excited. But then I read the fine print. The terms of the deal and the fact that it would only be available online made me feel uneasy, but what could I do? I couldn’t turn down the opportunity, right?
That summer I was accepted at Yale Writers’ Workshop where I met Hallie who was teaching the Mystery and Crime Fiction section. I confided in her that I had doubts about this path for my debut novel. On the other hand, if I turned down the offer, it would mean starting from scratch and writing another book.
Hallie smiled and gently reminded me that I was a writer. The goal should always be to write the next book. And then she gave me the best advice of all: to trust my gut and believe in my writing.
I decided to pass on the contest and wrote a second novel. I signed up to pitch it to agents at the Writer’s Digest Conference in New York. Picture the most frenetic speed dating session you can imagine – with most of the interest and intensity on the side of the writers.
I had a great conversation with one of the agents, Moses Cardona with John Hawkins and Associates, who agreed to represent me. We worked together to make cuts and additions. Finally, the book was ready to be sent out on submission. I couldn’t believe it. This was really it. Everything I’d worked so hard for was finally happening…
Then COVID hit.
The publishing world, like the rest of us, was left reeling during those awful months that followed March 2020. When we finally received responses, the comments from the editors were flattering and encouraging, but ultimately didn’t result in any offers.
For now, I’ve put that book aside.
Because the world had changed so much, I wanted my next book to reflect the questions I had about the past and where our society was headed.
My usual process before I begin a novel is to write a short story about the idea. During those lockdown months, I wrote two different stories. I decided to expand one of them into a novel that is currently out on submission. My agent submitted the other one to Ellery Queen. It was accepted for the May/June 2023 issue and it’s that story, “The Body in Cell Two”, that’s up for the Fish award.
I could never have predicted that a short story would be my path to publishing, but it’s turned out to be an amazing experience. Since the nomination, I’ve been invited to appear on a panel at Malice Domestic in April: Short Stories: Quickly Connecting Reader to Character. (If you’re going to Malice, please come to the panel and say hello!).
I’ll be attending the Edgar Awards Ceremony on May 1st. It’s such an honor to be included with all the other incredible nominees.
All of this happened because I took Hallie Ephron’s very good advice. To believe in myself and my writing process and see where it takes me.
HALLIE: It thrills me right down to my tippy-toes to share Kate's success! And it's a tribute to the maxim: be persistent, stick with it, talent will out! Sometimes you have to walk away from the low-hanging fruit to have a shot at the harder-to-reach prize.
I am confident that the next time Kate visits with us on Jungle Red it'll be to celebrate her debut novel.
Congratulations, Kate, on your nomination for your short story.
ReplyDeleteAnd I'll be watching for your debut novel . . . .
Thank you, Joan!
DeleteWay to go, Kate! I agree, Hallie is the best. Fingers crossed for your Edgar win, and I look forward to meeting you at Malice.
ReplyDeleteI have begun several novels with a short story, and one sparked a seven book series. Curious - what is holding you back from sending out that contest-winning novel to other publishers?
Hi Edith, thank you! Under the terms of the contest, they might have claimed rights to the story. I decided to make a clean break. Looking forward to seeing you at Malice!
DeleteThere are contests, and then there are contests... One of the Reds won a contest from St. Martin's and they published her first novel ("It was a helluva night to throw away a baby...") POINTS for our readers who know which of us that was.
DeleteThere are also contests that are very much stacked in favor of the "publisher" ... not quite scams but verging on. It's often better to self publish than to go with a sketchy publisher. Ideas are gold.
Hallie, that was Julia's famous first line :)
DeleteCongratulations on your Edgar nomination, Kate. We have met many authors who have taken Hallie's classes and her advice. Each one has spoken with gratitude. It's sweet to read your success story on the JRW blog first thing in the morning. I look forward to reading your novel. Keep us posted.
ReplyDeleteThank you, Judy! I love the Reds community. I read the blog first thing every day!
DeleteCongrats! Good luck to you!
ReplyDeleteThank you, Margaret!
DeleteCongratulations on the nomination, Kate -- and on your perseverance, a key character trait of every writer! I'd love to hear more about the 'speed pitching' experience with agents at the WD conference. How does the conversation start? And then proceed?
ReplyDeleteThank you, Amanda! The pitching sessions are...interesting. I tried to approach them like any conversation with a friend: Hey, I have this book, would you like to hear about it? Most of the agents were pleasant. Definitely tough but I do recommend the experience.
DeleteI second that... you can learn so much from it and risk nothing. (You'd be "auditioning" for the agent but remember, they're auditioning for you, too - they're hungry for the next DEBUT NOVEL star,)
DeleteI'm certain Kate did this ahead, but you practice and practice and practice your pitch so you don't panic and freeze up in the moment.
DeleteCongratulations, Kate! That nasty pandemic put so many lives on hold. I’m glad things are moving forward for you now. I hope to read your novels soon! And I’ll check my library for the issue of Ellery Queen for your winning short story!
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Thanks so much, Deb!
DeleteCongratulations, Kate! Maybe I'll see you at Malice!
ReplyDeleteNow I'm wishing I were going to Malice...
DeleteThanks, Liz, I'd love to say hello in person.
DeleteHallie, it's not too late to register....
DeleteDefinitely not too late!
DeleteOh Kate! I'm thrilled for you!! Hallie's the best, and yes, listen to your gut feelings! Looking forward to seeing you back here in the near future with your debut novel.
ReplyDeleteThank you so much, Flora!
DeleteCongratulations Kate! It's really great to hear your story of persistence! We'll be rooting for you.
ReplyDeletePersisence! Precisely... for most of us that's what it takes.
DeleteCongratulations on your Edgar nomination! I will be watching for more from you, Kate.
ReplyDeleteKATE: Congratulations on your Edgar nomination. It's lovely to hear about your writing journey. So happy to know that persistence, talent, good advice from Hallie and listening to your gut has worked for you! Enjoy your time at Malice & the Edgars.
ReplyDeleteThank you, Grace! It will be my first Malice, I'm really looking forward to it.
DeleteWhat a great story Kate!! Congrats.
ReplyDeleteThank you!
DeleteThis is wonderful news Kate--congratulations! I hope you enjoy every moment of the Edgar celebration no matter what the outcome is. You're already a winner!
ReplyDeleteHi Lucy, thank you! I'm so grateful for the nomination, and definitely enjoying every moment.
DeleteWonderful and inspiring! Congratulations!!!
ReplyDeleteThank you! Are you a writer? Keep at it, you never know where it will lead you.
DeleteIt takes a lot of courage to keep going in the face of so much bad luck with your publishing career--I'm very impressed that you fought on and delighted for you that your short story was nominated for an Edgar! I hope to meet you at Bouchercon in Nashville--sorry I'm not going to be a Malice this year.
ReplyDeleteThanks, Kim! I haven't decided on whether I'm going to Bouchercon yet. But I love Nashville, so it's very tempting.
DeleteCongratulations, Kate! You did good. Looking forward to reading that debut novel.
ReplyDeleteThank you, Kait!
DeleteCongratulations, Kate. How wonderful that all the self trust and perseverance led to this outcome. Very glad for you.
ReplyDeleteElizabeth, so nice of you to say so. Thank you!
ReplyDeleteCongratulations on your Edgar nomination, Kate! That is huge!! And kudos to you for listening to Hallie's advice and persevering. I have no doubt we will be seeing your debut novel soon. Thanks for inspiring us all today!
ReplyDeleteHi Deborah, thank you! I'm so grateful for Hallie's advice.
DeleteCongratulations on listening to the wisdom of Hallie and now having your short story up for an Edgar, Kate. The patience and belief in yourself certainly paid off, and it will continue to pay off. You'll be back here talking about you debut novel in short order.
ReplyDeleteThank you, Kathy!
DeleteCongratulations, Kate, on the Edgar nomination! There's nothing quite like seeing your first piece of fiction in print, is there? I'm really intrigued by your method of trying out a novel idea in short story form. In reverse, I've been thinking about creating a new short story based on one of my mysteries. Hallie's got it right: Next time you appear here, it will probably be on the pub date of your first novel.
ReplyDeleteThank you, Susan! I love that idea of creating a short story inspired by the world and characters you've created.
DeleteSo sorry to be late to commenting today, Hallie and Katie. Congratulations on your short story nomination. And I look forward to reading your debut novel.
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Thank you so much, Diana!
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ReplyDeleteWAIT! My comment didn't post! Aww...I asked Kate to tell us more about the story! Waaah.
ReplyDeleteHi Hank, and it looks like my comment above that I thought posted yesterday just posted today! The computer gods must be having an off day.
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