DEBORAH CROMBIE: I've just been working on a fun little Get To Know the Author post for our JRW friend Dru Ann Love's Dru's Book Musings (which will post May 18th, so keep an eye out!) One of the questions was, "What's the quirkiest quirk one of your characters has?"
Well, this one stumped me. I couldn't think of a single thing. My characters have "traits," I suppose, physical details that we identify with them. Duncan is tall and has a habit of running a hand through his hair when he's thinking, but that's not really a quirk, is it? In the earlier books he drives an old rattletrap MG Midget, which he loves, but that's a thing, unless driving an old car is a quirk?
Gemma loves her piano and her Clarice Cliff teapot, but those are personal preferences. (And who has time for quirks with three kids AND a demanding job??)
Doug pushes his round wire-rimmed glasses up on his nose. Melody has a thing for cherry-red coats. I'm not seeing any real Sherlockian eccentricities here; no pipe smoking or ten percent solution or deerstalker hats (although I'm not sure which, if any, of these actually appear in the canon.) There are no Poirot-mustaches, no Wolfe-ian orchid growing, no only-a-toothbrush Reacherisms in my books.
It did occur to me that I have created a possibly quirky character in the book in progress, and also that we haven't yet had a snippet from Duncan's point of view. Here, we have our first glimpse of the Kincaid/James's new nanny:
It was nearly noon by the time Duncan
Kincaid had a moment to follow through on Gemma’s request, Monday mornings
being what they were in the CID room in Holborn Police Station. But when he’d
worked through the weekend’s case log with the team, he slipped into his office
and pulled up Bodie Murphy’s text thread on his mobile.
Gemma tied up at work, may be
late, he typed. I should get home, but can you hold the fort just
in case?
Their new nanny had been
recommended to them by their friend Destiny Howard, who worked in Wardrobe at
the Royal Opera in Covent Garden. Bodie worked in costume as well, but she was
freelance and floated between the opera companies and West End theatres. She’d
needed to supplement her income, and unless she was working a performance,
could usually manage to adjust her schedule to the children’s out of school
hours.
“Don’t be put off by the, um,
look,” Destiny had said before they’d interviewed Bodie. “She’s a love and very
dependable. And mum likes her. She’s helped out with the costumes for
Carnival.”
Praise from Betty Howard was the
gold standard in the Kincaid/James household. Betty’s son Wesley had helped out
with the children since they’d first moved to Notting Hill, but Wes was busy
with his own life these days, finishing a business course at college and doing
freelance photography.
The artistic gifts ran in the
family. Betty Howard, a talented seamstress who could turn her needle to
anything from millenary to soft furnishings, had for many years made stunning costumes
for Notting Hill Carnival. If Bodie Murphy’s work had been up to her standards,
it was indeed quite the compliment.
Kincaid had been glad of
Destiny’s forewarning, however, when Bodie Murphy had rung the bell of their
Notting Hill house a few days later. The young woman on their doorstep had
short, bright blue hair, milk-pale skin, and multiple piercings in her ears,
eyebrows, and nose. She wore a black hoodie over a black mini-skirt, fishnet
tights, and Doc Marten’s.
But when she’d held out her hand
and said, “Hi, I’m Bodie,” her round face splitting into a beaming smile,
Kincaid had been instantly charmed—as had Gemma and, more importantly, the
children.
So, maybe Bodie is a little quirky, at least in her sartorial choices.
Readers, how do you feel about quirks? How would you define them? And do you have favorite quirky characters? Am I missing the boat by NOT giving my characters obvious quirks?
Bodie is awesome!
ReplyDeleteI don't have strong feelings about quirks, either for or against . . . I think that quirky, in the best possible way, is unusual behavior that tends to end up being appealing [kind of like Eleanor in "Eleanor Oliphant is Completely Fine"] . . . .
Oh good definition, Joan! And I loved that book!
DeleteSome quirk is good. But they can become overly quirky quickly. I'm reading a book with a few walk on characters that are very over the top quirky to the point of being ridiculous even in the 5 pages they have.
ReplyDeleteI agree, Mark. It's a fine balancing act.
DeleteI'm with Mark, quirk can be overdone with overkill really quickly, especially if every character has some weird characteristics. Blue hair, though, is not uncommon any more, so not much of a quirk. I would trust you, Debs, not to shove it under the reader's nose every third page. In real life, we stop thinking about such details after awhile, until maybe someone else mentions it.
ReplyDeleteOoh, I went down a serious Clarice Cliff rabbit hole! Lovely stuff.
I have a fabulous book on her pottery, and she had an interesting life, making such a name for herself in the industry in that time period. You used to see a piece or two at Portobello dealers, but nothing I could afford. Now I think any of her work goes to auction houses. (Gemma is very lucky, lol)
DeleteI'm loving your description of Bodie. Looking forward to meeting her. I love quirks in characters, they add a human interest to the story and thanks for the shout-out.
ReplyDeleteAnd thank you, Dru, for the blog idea!
DeleteI like quirky sidekick characters e.g. Robert Crais' Joe Pike. Pike's mouth may twitch in amusement at Elvis Cole's antics but that's the extent of showing emotion. And Pike always wears his mirrored sunglasses.
ReplyDeleteI also agree with Mark about some characters who have become annoying with their quirks & distract from the story.
Good examples, Grace!
DeleteLove Elvis and Joe! Whenever I have to keep completely still for a short time and rebel against it, I think, “Joe Pike can stay still while on surveillance for 18 hours!” — Pat S
DeleteCathbad in Elly Griffiths' books comes quickly to mind. At first he is just odd but soon loveable in his loyalty to Ruth.
ReplyDeleteCathbad is definitely quirky, at least in the beginning of the series. But he becomes so much more as the series develops that those oddities, while still there, tend to fade into the background.
DeleteAhh Cathbad! A most successfully done quirky character. (Heather S)
DeletePerfect example of good quirky! Cathbad did seem almost too odd at first but pretty quickly was developed into a lovely character and one I looked forward to seeing in every new story.
DeleteI think quirky needs to feel authentic and can build out of all the things the character manifests in the storyline including habits, passions, pet peeves and so on. In real life, I was explaining to a friend that some of my other friends thought I was a bit weird or odd to enjoy studying ancient languages in my retirement, to which he replied..."not weird just unique and delightfully quirky." I see Cathbad in that light and I think Bodie looks to be cut from similar cloth. I expect you will have a lovely time with her! looking forward to reading this next one!
Debs, I have read most of your books several times and would not have stuck the term "quirky" on any of them. If asked to choose a "quirky" fictional character, I'd go to Three Pines, where all of the characters are quirky, from Clara, to Gabriel to Ruth. The Reds also have several quirky cast members in their series. Queenie, for instance, is a prime example. "Whacha Miss?"
ReplyDeleteWatcha, miss! Yes, Queenie is a great example! And Rhys gets the balance just right. Queenie is a light note, funny but not overdone.
DeleteBodie's a great character, Debs! I agree with Judy about Ruth from Three Pines - as quirky as you get. I have my policeman Buck, whose quirks are mostly in the colorful (but not obscene) language he uses.
ReplyDeleteI agree, who has time for quirks with three children and a demanding job?
I would say that Buck's other quirk is his enormous appetite for Robbie's diner food!
DeleteTrue, Grace!
DeleteBlue hair, pink hair, piercings. I was won over by Bodie's smile. And her name.
ReplyDeleteI'll have to think about quirks. My main character wears a purple hard hat and purple socks pulled up over the tops of her hiking boots.
Love anyone who wears purple, Margaret!
DeleteI'm usually not too big on "quirky"--it feels like a shortcut for really developing a character. Oops, but now I wonder if I too have quirky characters? Debs, your people are perfectly drawn, so just keep writing:)
ReplyDeleteOh Lucy, Miss Gloria!
DeleteI was thinking about Miss Gloria too, but I think I might define her as feist! LOL.
DeleteSome of the buskers (Lorenzo seems pretty normal and very likeable) are a little quirky.
make that feisty...
DeleteCatman is definitely quirky! But we only get little glimpses.
DeleteIf the quirkiness is the only thing a character has going for them, then it becomes annoying to me as a reader. When well-done, we just accept the character and their quirks cease to define them until someone else reacts to them as the story progresses. Love Joan's definition--when the quirks endear us to the character, the author has struck gold.
ReplyDeleteYes, yay Joan for getting the comments off to such a good start this morning. (or last night!)
DeleteDebs, I can’t wait to meet Bodie and to reconnect with Gemma, Duncan, their family and friends.
ReplyDeleteI just read a book in French in which the main character always enter a place on his right foot.
Danielle
Now that's an interesting one, Danielle. Sounds like someone on the autism spectrum.
DeleteFor me, quirks have to be seamlessly part of the character not add-ons for effect. Bodie sounds terrific as a new character and I'm looking forward to meeting her. As for pottery: I'll see your Clarice Cliff pottery and raise you Emma Bridgewater's!
ReplyDeleteOooh, soul sisters, Amanda! I have my Emma mugs and teapots, all very well used. And there is a new garden mug for summer that I am drooling over. Unlike Gemma, if I had any Clarice Cliff pieces I think I'd be afraid to use them...
DeleteI will second Lucy's great advice: just keep writing. Because your books are perfect! No quirks necessary.
ReplyDeleteAw, thank you, Judi. Much appreciated!!
DeleteI don't mind a quirk as long as it doesn't become a tic - some characters thrive on them. Especially on TV ... Monk, for example. The quirk becomes the character. Love Bodie!
ReplyDeleteToo many tics, very annoying after a while, I agree. And I'm looking forward to writing more about Bodie.
DeleteThe first quirky character that I think of who has been done well is Elizabeth George’s Sergeant Barbara Havers. Her choice of clothes, unkemptness and attitude is a part of her personality and does not in any way affect her ability as a detective. George subtly includes her compatriots attempts to modify her, and I particularly love the interaction and frustration from the well attired Dorothy. We understand other’s frustrations about her, but their ability to accept her as she is – well most of them.
ReplyDeleteTo me this is a quirky well-done. It is a part of the book but not over the top.
Good example, Margo. Havers is certainly more than her quirks.
DeleteInteresting! I do not consider Havers quirky, but psychologically damaged from her life experiences. Her quirks are a symptom of her mental health issues.
Delete,
I think quirks work if the characters reveal them themselves as you get to know them not if you try to create them with the character. For example I found out that Evan Evans was claustrophobic when I sent him
ReplyDeleteThrough the Chunnel. Then, knowing that, I sent him down a slate mine
Rhys, you are vicious! In a good way! And don't you love it when characters reveal things you didn't know??
DeleteI was thinking about quirky characters. Then I wondered how can I define quirky? Is it being unusual/different, a result of a medical condition (fear of heights, claustrophobia, etc)?
ReplyDeleteAnon, I too wonder at the definition. Elisabeth
DeleteThe Oxford Dictionary defines quirky as having "peculiar or unexpected traits." That leaves a lot of room!
DeleteI agree with Hallie. I don't mind quirks unless they become tics.
ReplyDeleteBodie sounds delightful and I look forward to reading about her foray into the Kincaid/James household.
Atlanta
Well, I remain in the dark as to what quirky means. Even with all the great examples from books I have read and liked. For example, Ruth Zardo in Three Pines is just Ruth…Louise Penny has written who this woman is. It would be “quirky” if Ruth suddenly stopped drinking out of flower vases, got a parakeet to replace Rosa, and paid for the books from Myrna’s store. Bewildered, it’s Elisabeth here.
ReplyDeleteYes, is Ruth quirky or eccentric or both? Hard to know if our definitions of quirky behavior is the same as another reader of the author.
DeleteGrace, so agree that “quirky” all depends on the definition. Are you still out of your usual time zone? Elisabeth
DeleteYes, 12 hours ahead of my normal Ontario time. It is 10:15 pm Friday in Singapore.
DeleteWe'll want to hear all about your trip, Grace!
DeleteI had to look up the definition of 'quirk'. The operative word for me, "peculiar" which leads to who defines what peculiar is? If, ( Bodie looks very promising btw), peculiar is what others think of her, then blue hair might be a quirk. All her adjectives have told me she is perhaps a. a retro goth type or b. an artistic person. I look forward to getting to know her better. Quirks then, are mannerisms that help define a person, ones that allow the observer (reader) to think 'hello what is this? Your characters, Deb, are more human than cardboard - they evolve beyond stereotypes. Thank you.
ReplyDeleteThanks, Coralee! And Bodie is both a bit retro goth and very artistic--a fun combination to write.
DeleteGood definition Coralee. I think Bodie sounds very creative and obviously likeable. It just goes to show that sometimes first impressions are misleading.
ReplyDeleteIndeed!
DeleteBodie sounds awesome! I agree with Hallie - in place and in moderation, quirks are fine, but if they are the character.... danger, Will Robinson.
ReplyDeleteKait, anyone younger than 40 might claim that people who use quotes from “old” TV series/movies are quirky! (Though I think maybe there was some kind of reboot of Lost in Space recently…) — Pat S
DeleteLOL! You are probably right!
DeleteI’ve been mulling over the word “quirky”. I describe some people I know as quirky because you never know what they’re going to say or do. And there are people I would describe as quirky because they’re superstitious about certain things. And then there’s a person I know who will drive anywhere, except over a bridge. Is that quirky? I don’t really know. I’ll be thinking about “quirky” all day now!
ReplyDeleteDebRo
Hmm. Not driving over bridges might be a spacial perception issue. I have a bit of that myself, but have learned to manage it over the years. But I'd guess you could say that was a "quirk."
DeleteDEBS: Great post today.
ReplyDeleteRegarding Quirks, didn't Agatha Christie's Hercule Poirot have Quirks? I am thinking that perhaps quirky characters make the story memorable....
Diana
Thanks, Diana! Yes, Poirot had lots of quirks; his formal dress, his mustache, his tisanes, his "little grey cells." But did Miss Marple, other than the knitting, which I'm not sure you'd call a quirk. An interesting contrast there.
DeleteThis discussion reminded me of a video we watched last year for Spanish class. It was an interview with Spanish writer Rosa Montero and she made the point that "normal" doesn't exist. It's just the midpoint on a scale. No person is actually normal! They went on to talk about the connection between eccentricity and creativity. One has to be at least a little quirky to be able to imagine a world, a story, a novel. I'm raising my cup of Yorkshire Gold to quirky, creative authors everywhere!
ReplyDeleteMe, too, Gillian! Here's to all the quirky people! Although I would never think of myself as quirky, maybe I seem that way to other people. Hmm.
DeleteFor those of you who have ventured down the Clarice Cliff rabbit hole, I think this is Gemma's pattern. https://andrew-muir.com/items/clarice-cliff-red-trees-house-stamford-tea-for-two-set-c-1931/2419
ReplyDeleteI love this snippet, Debs. I wanted to name H2 Bodie but Hub said no. Anyway, quirks are such a subjective thing. The Hub has a touch of OCD, so his "quirk" of having to have things sit just so on his dresser is really just a coping thing but it is a quirk to me given that my dresser is an explosion of whatever I've thrown onto it lately and Hub would likely call me the quirky one because of it. LOL. So, it is an excellent question that I must ponder.
ReplyDeleteMy husband is also like that, Jenn. When we were at dinner on our recent trip to New Orleans, I started noticing that he kept straightening MY forks. (We hadn’t been served yet so there were two forks in my place setting. I was to his right so he could easily see my forks. It bothered him that they weren’t lined up “properly”.) I , of course, being so mature, kept moving the one fork back. He never noticed; just straightened it as a matter of course! — Pat S
DeleteI have been soundly told off for straightening other people's pictures, so I totally get your husband, Pat!
DeleteQuirks or no, Bodie sounds like a hoot! And I bet she is great with the kids. I think quirks are little pieces of individualism that stand out because they are either unusual or so consistent that you expect to see them in certain situations.
ReplyDeleteDebs, as a daily reader of Dru’s blog, I can tell you that not every author has characters with quirks. It’s okay to say “my characters don’t really have any quirks.” — Pat S
ReplyDeleteI'm doing the same that feature later in the months, Debs! I selected Russ's mother as my quirkiest character. She's very much not your stereotypical little old lady; she's an environmental and antiwar activist and has been arrested more than once. Other than that, I don't really do quirky. I have enough quirky characters in my real life!
ReplyDeleteLooking forward to reading your answers, Julia!
DeleteI love Russ's mother!
DeleteI’ve been looking at that pottery since I first read of Gemma’s collection. Lovely but soooo expensive.
ReplyDeleteMarianne in Maine
Wait. Wesley's not cooking any more???? When did this happen?
ReplyDeleteYou'll have to wait and see:-)
DeleteExcellent…love Bodie…when you mentioned quirky characters I thought of Tam. Whenever I hear about Clarice Cliff it always reminds me of Gemma❤️
ReplyDeleteBodie sounds enchanting. I look forward to her addition to the best kind of family which strays way outside of blood.
ReplyDeleteA quirky character here and there is nice, but your characters are just fascinating the way they are. I think sometimes authors work too hard to use quirks to make a character stand out. People don't need quirks to be interesting! Your characters are real to me, especially after following them along for so many years. That's what's important!
ReplyDeleteWell, Louise Penney has some pretty quirky characters—Ruth with her duck, Clara with her wild hair and paint splatters, Gabri with his ruffled apron—and I enjoy them, but I don’t require quirks. I ❤️ Duncan, Gemma, and the rest as they are. And I predict wonderful things for the sartorially quirky Brodie. A young woman who works in Wardrobe sounds perfect for Charlotte, especially.
ReplyDeleteAnd PS … thanks for the picture of the pottery. I’d been Googling it and trying to imagine Gemma’s set …
DeleteI like quirky characters. An author who does them really well is Fredrik Backman.
ReplyDeleteI love her! <3
ReplyDelete-- Storyteller Mary
Love Clarice Cliff! My sister in law bought me some replica mugs and they're my favorites.
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