Thursday, April 25, 2024

What We're Writing: Lucy's Thinking About Mothers

LUCY BURDETTE: since Mother’s Day is coming up soon, I thought I’d write about one of my favorite topics, the mother figures in Hayley Snow’s life. She has quite a few of them by this point in the series! She has developed a wonderful relationship with her own mother, and a good solid relationship with her stepmother, and she is even on steady ground with her mother-in-law. (Not an easy feat!) And of course everyone’s favorite mother-character, Miss Gloria, is planted firmly in Hayley’s world.


Hayley’s mom makes her first appearance in the second installment of the series, DEATH IN FOUR COURSES. Hayley is attending the Key West Loves Literature conference in this book—an event that’s fraught because she is dying to become a food writer and critic of note, and all her foodie idols are in attendance. She’s made what she begins to worry is a big mistake: invited her mother to come with her. Janet Snow is a foodie too, but she lacks confidence and direction and focuses her anxiety on her daughter. This scene takes place during the conference’s opening remarks:

“I know you didn’t come all the way to Key West to listen to me,” Dustin was saying from the stage. “So I am thrilled to introduce our keynote speaker, a man who truly needs no introduction.”

“But you’ll give one anyway,” I muttered.

My mother took my hand and pulled it onto her lap. “Oh, sweetie. Let him have his moment.”

She was right—as usual. But still I rolled my eyes and squeezed her fingers back a little harder than I meant to.

“Jonah Barrows has had four major culinary careers in the time most of us have only managed one. His mother once reported that he had a highly sensitive palate right out of the womb—he would only suckle organic goat’s milk.”

The audience tittered. How completely embarrassing, the kind of thing a mother might say. Mine, in fact, was chuckling loudly. “Remember when you’d only eat strained carrots and your skin turned yellow from too much carotene?”

“Mom, stop,” I hissed.



At this point in my current WIP, Key West food critic mystery #15, Hayley’s relationship with her mom has evolved into something comfortable and healthy. They share a lot in common, but not in a competitive way. Here’s a little snippet that I hope shows a bit of that. The two women were both passengers on the boat that blew up off Mallory Square in the book’s opening:

The ringing came from the landline that Nathan suggested we keep in case the cell towers went down someday. He always wanted to be prepared for future disaster. I snatched up the receiver. My mother’s number scrolled over the small screen, and I punched accept.

“Are you OK?” I asked. At the same time, she said, “how do you feel?” We both laughed.

“Shocked,” she said, “horrified. Disappointed but grateful. I’m physically fine and Sam is too.” She lowered her voice as if someone would listen in. “The cops were here. Asking all kinds of questions. I get the feeling they think we are at the center of what might have been the crime of the year in Key West.” 

“Same,” I said. “I got the bigwigs, my husband, the chief, and Steve Torrence. Looking back, do you think you saw anybody doing anything suspicious?”

“I was so focused on getting the food out and making sure everyone was having a lovely time with something to nibble on and full champagne glasses. I wasn’t watching for criminals.” Her voice sounded sad. This promised to be a showcase for her business as well as my ezine.

“Yes,” I said, “I’m sorry. It was going to be such a lovely party. Plus, you’ve lost a lot of your catering equipment.”

“Insurance will cover it,” she said. “We’re alive and well, that’s all that matters. Did you come up with any leads for them?”

“I mentioned that there were a lot of people from the local food world, and that some of them would not have been happy about my reviews. Nathan made fun of that, and we had a little mini spat.”

“Tension is almost inevitable in a crisis,” she said. “He adores you and he respects what you do. But he feels responsible for a lot of trouble right now, and I know he worries about all of us.” She paused, and I could hear the click of her fingernail on her phone. “I wonder if it would be worth us doing some informal interviews with some folks in the foodie world. People that the police might not necessarily reach out to. Even if they did, they might not ask the right questions because they can never truly understand what drives our passion.”


Lucy again. I adore having had the chance to write about the relationship of Hayley and Janet, to observe it grow and mature. I prefer reading series to standalones because I love following the character development that occurs in the best of these. How about you Reds, series or standalones?

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86 comments:

  1. Thanks, Lucy . . . this is delightful. I love how the relationship between Hayley and her mom has evolved throughout the stories.

    I like both standalones and series . . . it seems to me that there's more "room to grow" in a series and the characters often become "real" for the readers. In either case, a good book is a good book . . . .

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  2. Commenting from my daughter's apartment in Athens. My husband is still conked out from jetlag.

    Lucy, your past experience with psychology and counseling gives you so much insight into family and other personal dynamics. That's an advantage a series has over standalone novels. It adds an additional layer of veracity to your characters and how they interact with each other. It's fun for longtime readers, at least me, to see how the various characters change and grow, not just in individual books, but over the course of the series, whether it's a Hayley Snow, Lady Georgie, or Gemma and Duncan series.

    I enjoy both, of course, for different reasons. I love revisiting old friends, but it's just as exciting to meet new ones.

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    1. Enjoy your visit in Athens.

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    2. Thanks, Dru! A week here in Greece, and a week in Poland. Family trip.

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    3. I didn't know you were traveling, Karen! Have a wonderful trip.

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    4. Enjoy your time in Greece with your daughter, Karen.

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    5. Thanks! Two daughters, Grace! And a son-in-law.

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    6. A family reunion in Greece is even better, Karen!

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    7. Karen, have a wonderful trip. Take notes on favorite things to do as a tourist. Enjoy your family!

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  3. I prefer series when the characters grow. I've read some where they stay pretty stagnant. That works in one or two series, but quite often I get frustrated when the characters and their relationships aren't growing. (The series where I am picturing it working well is part sitcom part murder mystery, and I think that's why it works.)

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    1. That is, the series where I am picturing the characters not really growing well is part sitcom.... I do mean this is the classic sitcom where very little character development happens, not like today's where there is more growth.

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    2. Yes I know what you mean--a few series are not meant to explore character but focus on the plot. I get a little bored with those.

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  4. LUCY: i am also commenting at a weird time. Singapore is 12 hours ahead of Ontario.
    And it's blazingly hot & humid. Currently, it is 34C/93F feeling like 42C/107F at 4 pm!

    I have enjoyed reading about Hayley & Janet's changing relationship
    as well as the appearance of Nathan's mother. Like you, that's usually why I like reading long -running series,

    Sorry to miss the next live Reds & Readers event!

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    1. Hope you have a good time. Are you meeting up with Ovidia?

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    2. Thanks, Dru! Yes, I am having lunch with Ovidia this Sunday.

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    3. Grace that's hot! Hope you're still able to enjoy the city!

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    4. I also remember Singapore as very hot and humid--but a fascinating place. Hope you're having fun!

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    5. I had a jam packed & fun Day 1, Kim. The MRT is clean & efficient but I also walked over 12 km in this heat. Definitely need to hydrate more & seek shade in the afternoon!

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  5. I love series especially if I started with the first book. I love seeing the growth of the characters and bonus is I feel like the characters are real. BTW, love that snippet with Hayley and her mom.

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    1. Dru, even when I begin a series years late, I always begin reading with book #1.

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    2. thanks Dru! Judy, I always ask people who are new readers whether they like to start at the very beginning, and then recommend a book from there. You're the most loyal reader!

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    3. I HAVE to start at the beginning of a series! I like to get to know the characters from the beginning so I know their background and watch relationships form and grow. — Pat S

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  6. I often say that I prefer series. I love reading about characters whose relationships develop over the course of several books.

    Lucy, it's been wonderful watching the relationship between Hayley and Janet grow. They are both more confident in themselves and more mature than in the beginning of the series. They show more respect for one another's individuality and capability.
    My question for you is whether you thought about this arc when you first introduced us to the character or whether Janet surprised you, too?

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    1. My first thought was not a clue! I did not know that Janet Snow would be moving down to Key West, or have much idea at all about how things would play out. That first book really is like sitting down with a therapy patient for the first session--anything can happen, anything can be true or not true!

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    2. Oh, Roberta, what a good answer. I think you conveyed that perfectly in Janet's early appearances. I am so glad she settled down and became more relaxed.

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  7. Great snippet, Roberta. I've been developing a new mother-ish relationship (with the m-i-l) in my WIP and really enjoying it.

    I read and write (mostly) series, but I also love picking up a standalone from a favorite author.

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    1. thanks Edith and have a wonderful time at Malice!

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    2. Thanks! We will miss you. I'm in the hotel and readying for a day of touristing with two Leslies.

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  8. I follow several mystery and scifi series religiously to keep up with old friends, but I also read a lot of standalones (or debuts in series that I end up not following!) Sometimes one novel that takes a whole story from beginning to end is extremely satisfying. I felt that with Ann Patchett's TOM LAKE, for example, or THE WEIGHT OF INK by Rachel Kadish.

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  9. When IS the next Reds and Readers event?

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    1. Edith, I have it on my calendar for today at 5:00PM.~Emily Dame

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    2. Thanks. That's a hard pass for me, being at Malice Domestic!

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    4. Unfortunately, we've had to postpone the live chat because Facebook took away our method of streaming. Everything's in chaos, but we'll reschedule as soon as we figure it out!

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    5. So now informative comments are deleted? It had already been posted on Facebook the author chat was cancelled.

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  10. I enjoy a series and generally am tuned in to when the next book publishes so I can follow my favorite characters.~Emily Dame

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  11. Thanks, Lucy, that was great! While I do like standalone novels, I also love the character development that a series provides.

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  12. Great question, Lucy. I enjoy reading series for the same reason you mentioned, some times those relationships and their growth and development are more important and meaningful to me than the mystery plot. That said, I like to read standalones too, particularly between reading series. Sometimes I wish the author would write more about the characters we met in the standalones, but since the story is complete, with a satisfying ending (I hope) I can leave it there and move on.

    As usual I aml ooking forward to reading to your newest book.

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    1. thanks Judi. I too worry about the characters I leave behind, both while reading and writing!

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  13. I woke up thinking about my mom, who passed away in 2022. I prefer series so I can see how the characters change and grow. It’s like being part of the journey. I also read book series in order. I’m only on book 3 in your series so I’m new to Haley’s world, but this blog gives me another reason to look forward continuing it.

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  14. I like both. I like a well written book with good characters, place and story, but I really like the feeling of a series, especially book 2, where you (should) feel that you are back with people who you know. Some of them you may not like, and you hope something develops in their lives, but there is a comfort in knowing what they are about. I particularly like family situations, but also enjoy other characters who we are made to feel are part of another family. Good writers create good characters – a few are:
    Elizabeth George: her friends of Lyndley rarely are a part of the ‘solving’ but are a big part of the story.
    Debs: the kids are growing and maturing
    Julia: Where is Kevin?
    Louise Penny: I love Ruth and fear for the duck Rosa. Ducks don’t live that long!
    So, characters become a part of the book, and a sense of familiarity – like coming home to a great family reunion. Pass the potato salad…

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    1. Yes returning to a good series is like coming home. I love that you're worrying about the duck! Fictional ducks can live longer I hear...

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    2. Margo, the lives of Rosa and Ruth both seem extraordinarily long. But, for me, Louise Penny does a “step out of time” illusion with her books. I feel that years have passed between each story, but then I look closely, and it is only a matter of weeks or months. Discovered this by looking at the season in which each book was written. Elisabeth

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    3. “was written” is not accurate. Should be “is set.” Elisabeth

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  15. Hank Phillippi RyanApril 25, 2024 at 8:49 AM

    Lucy, you are the best. I love how you weave clues and foreshadowing in conversation, and also such lovely relationship subtext.

    As for series versus standalones. There are some series I love, but mostly I read standalones. So many series are in a standalone, (if the Author is wise -) so sometimes I’ll read part of a series that isn’t the first one. That doesn’t matter to me at all.
    If I love it, I’ll just go back and read the other ones. It doesn’t matter to me, as I said, what order it’s in.
    I know, blasphemy. I am ducking now. :-)

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  16. I just happened to read the first Hayley Snow book by chance, but I can start anywhere in the series. I love the fact that Lucy's characters and their relationships to each other grow and change significantly over time. #1 fan here!!

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  17. I enjoy reading both series books and standalones. It’s hard to say goodbye to the characters when a series ends as they have become old friends.

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    1. Oh I hate that, when a beloved series ends! Ann Cleeves's Shetland comes to mind.

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  18. There was a time when my daughter’s skin had a strange yellow tint to it from eating the jars of strained carrots! It was a relief at the time to find it wasn’t jaundice.

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    1. LOL! I can't imagine where I came up with that line!

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    2. Hank Phillippi RyanApril 25, 2024 at 10:24 AM

      Yes, I laughed out loud at that, and wondered where that came from. :-)

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  19. LUCY: Wonderful excerpt from your next Hayley Snow cozy mystery. Look forward to reading your novel.

    Series or Standalones? Both!

    Diana

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  20. I read so many series that I have to remember not to look for the next book when I do read a standalone. This is especially true when the standalone is written by an author who also writes series that I enjoy.

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  21. I’ve so enjoyed watching this relationship grow. Hayley’s lucky to have these mother figures in her life

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    1. Thanks dear Rhys. Hayley wasn't so sure in the beginning, but she knows she's lucky now!

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  22. Although I do enjoy stand-alones, I prefer series. I like to see how characters change and grow.

    Right now I’m listening to my first Audible book. The suspense is killing me!I may go to the library to look at the book, and take a quick peek at the ending!

    DebRo

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  23. I love Haley and Miss Gloria. They are quite a hoot. Her mom was a nice addition to A Clue in the Crumbs! Two excellent bakers. I just loved it!

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    1. Thanks Alicia! Miss Gloria has blossomed way beyond what I ever dreamed...

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  24. I love the way they put each other's well-being first, moms never stop being moms, even when kids grow and take responsibilities. ;-) Most of the authors of series that I love do a great job of making each one stand on its own, and create a satisfying ending for each, while leaving room for further developments. Thanks! <3

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    1. That was me, Storyteller Mary . . . don't know why the i.d. didn't go through.

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    2. that exactly describes the challenges of a series Mary, thank you!

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  25. I love Haley and Janet's relationship. I love reading (and writing) about parent/adult child interactions, because it's something almost all of us have to deal with in life, first as the child, then as the parent - sometimes both at the same time! There's so much fictional potential, for good and bad, in that sometimes-fraught stage of life.

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  26. I love watching these relationships evolve so much! And my goodness, hasn't Hayley matured over the course of fifteen books! What an accomplishment, to write such believable characters, Lucy!

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  27. I am in the good book or good series camp. However I was thinking that some earlier books, Dickens for example were series in a sense being published in weekly newspapers. Or a book of over 1000 pages like Shogun, It could have been a series.. and yet Clavel managed like Mitchner to 'crank out such enormous tomes. How the times have changed in reading habits.

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    1. p.s. Read Reds and Readers first, so I dropped back to say hi. Love the Key West series. Thanks for keeping up with it.

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  28. I think I prefer series to standalones, but certainly do read standalones (The Ingredients of Happiness, e.g.). I am still catching up with some of the Reds’ series and already know how some of those relationships are going because I read the blog. ;-) I will persevere because I love the stories along the way. (The best example of a series showing character development and growth - though it’s a TV series - is M*A*S*H. Look at how they grew Margaret Houlihan’s character alone. The other characters changed, too, but hers has always stood out to me.) — Pat S

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    1. I loved that show Pat, and of course it was all about relationships!

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  29. I think one of the best things about series is you find out more about the main characters and how they grow and change. I've definitely noticed the ease between Haley and Janet expand. Lovely.
    Pat D

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    1. Pat D again. I know too many Hayleys and their different spellings to keep them straight.

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    2. I know, I get mixed up too. And spellcheck--forget about it!

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  30. I have read a number of standalones that were so good with character development that I certainly wished they were the beginning of a series (here's looking at you, Rhys!). Almost all off my favorite authors write series--and even the mysteries I read not for the actual mystery, but for the interaction between characters, introduction of new characters, to see what's going on in their lives.

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  31. I prefer to read books in a series.

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  32. I just put the book on hold at my Queens County Library. I can't wait to read it!

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