Friday, July 12, 2024

Beach or Mountains?

 RHYS BOWEN: I’ve just come back from two weeks on the beach in San Diego. Absolutely heavenly, (apart from five family members coming down with Covid, one after the other, necessitating confinement to various parts of the house we were renting, masks and eating outside. I find that beach time is something absolutely necessary for my sanity and peace of mind. Walking barefoot on warm sand while looking for shells, standing at the edge of the waves as they lap over my feet, sitting on the sand and running it through my fingers, or just watching the waves all sooth my soul.


When I am in and around water I feel truly at home. This is strange because I grew up in chilly England where the water is usually too cold for swimming and  beaches usually windswept. We often went to Wales and one year my father and I made a bet that we’d swim every day of the vacation. This involved driving the car onto the beach, shedding outer layers while still in the car, then sprinting to the water, gasping with shock as we dove in, sprinting out and back through the waves and then rushing back to the car, teeth chattering.  We did it but I can;t say it was fun.




But these days I love every minute of beach time. Gliding over the surface in my kayak, as the paddle dips effortlessly into smooth water, boogie boarding when the day is warm enough and the ocean not too rough or even snorkeling are all perfect for me. I was never really taught to swim but the moment I put fins on I became a mer-person. When I snorkel on coral reefs I lose all sense of time and place. I am fully engaged with the sea life around me, sometimes I little too fully. Once, in Grand Cayman, I followed the reef out, never looking up, not hearing John yelling that I was going too far. When I finally did look out the shoreline looked as if someone had drawn it with a pencil. I was really, really far out and there was nobody or nothing in sight. Just me and smooth ocean. Then it occurred to me that if a shark took me nobody would even see.  I made it safely back to shore but I have been a tad more careful since then.

I wonder what it is about the sea that draws us so much. In England lots of people drive to the seaside, then sit in their cars watching the waves. I too love to watch the waves at sunset, preferably with a glass of wine in my hand. Why are we so fascinated?  Is it something primeval, reminding us that we all originally came from the sea billions of years ago? 

Are you a beach person or do you prefer the mountains, or maybe you’re a city girl? What is your ideal vacation?

JULIA SPENCER-FLEMING: Water girl here, by inclination, geography and astrological sign. I live by a river, I’m a half hour’s drive from the ocean and I have a dear friend with a lakehouse (thanks, Celia!) Water - seeing it, being in it, hearing it - puts me in my happy place. 

One of the things I love about my pre-knee-replacement PT is that it’s done in a pool! This may be the first time I’ve ever been eager to go to physical therapy and disappointed when it’s done. Forty minutes exercising in that pool makes my whole day.

JENN McKINLAY: Beach, lake, river - even though I’m a fire sign, I love the water. I grew up alongside a river, a lake, and then the ocean in CT. The only reason I can survive in AZ is the time I spend at our beach cottage in Nova Scotia and our annual trip to San Diego. Also, we have a swimming pool. Gotta have water. That being said, I do love the mountains, but water is vacation for me. 

HALLIE EPHRON: Give me water, too. Among my fondest memories are body surfing in Malibu. And I love pools though I’m a terrible swimmer. Hold the boats. 

HANK PHILLIPPI RYAN: Beach beach beach. A big umbrella, a little back chair, the pelicans skimming over the water, a view of the vast uninterrupted horizon, a book, and only the sound of the waves. 

(I am not fond of the mountains, except from an airplane.) 

LUCY BURDETTE: count me in as a beach person too, although I’d say it’s more water than beach. Even though I am a Capricorn and deeply rooted to the earth! Our grandkids were here this past week, and they never wanted to get out of the water, spending hours in the Long Island sound and then transferring to a neighbor’s pool as soon as they got home. I am sure they will grow up being beach people. When I went off on a solo adventure after college, I had been planning to land in Boulder, Colorado. But I remember so clearly feeling that the mountains made me claustrophobic.

DEBORAH CROMBIE: Beach, here, too! I find the ocean incredibly soothing and love to be around water of any kind. Mountains, not so much. I understand that they're beautiful, but they just don't strike that chord with me. But give me the gentle rolling hills of southern England and I might even give up the beach...

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  1. I'm a sort-of beach person; I don't want to be in the water, but walking in the sand in just lovely . . . .

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  3. I'm the first commenter who prefers mountains more than the beach. And I'm a Pisces.

    Unlike LUCY, I love the Flatirons that surround Boulder CO. I had travelled to Boulder, Denver and/or Colorado Springs annually for work in the 1990s and early 2000s. Spending my free time hiking or mountain biking and just being around them made me happy. Going to the top of Pikes Peak via cog train & visiting Rocky Mountain National Park in CO were also fun side trips. It was the first time I saw & heard elk bugling.

    In Canada, I have enjoyed vacationing in Banff & Lake Louise, Alberta in both winter and summer, and Vancouver BC is surrounded by mountains.

    And no surprise, some of my favourite European countries to visit have plenty of mountains: Austria, Switzerland and Iceland. Oh yeah, the lush mountains in O'ahu Hawaii are also stunning. I did some incredible hikes there, too.

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    1. I do love Austria and Switzerland. I don’t enjoy anywhere too flat

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  4. My husband and I were always winter vacationers. So we headed to the mountains, usually in Vermont, to ski. Stratton was our first choice...a beautiful mountain and the Village at its base was like being transported to the Swiss Alps. But as time went by we gravitated nearer to the water. Newport was our "Cape Cod". As a young bride I selected a china pattern (does anybody do that anymore?!) called "Flying Cloud" by Wedgwood. My mother was intrigued by the fact that I would pick a pattern with a ship on it. We lived nowhere close to the ocean at the time. I told her that one day I planned on living near the Atlantic. It took 40 plus years to make that happen but now we are less than 3 miles from the water and my "namaste" ~ the smell of the ocean air and the sound of the waves hitting the shore ~ is so soothing. And oh...the smell of beach roses blooming in June is heavenly!

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  5. As much as I love being near water, and enjoy seeing mountains, my happy place is right where I am: in the middle of a lush, tree-covered expanse of rolling hills. The Ohio Valley is just so green, and it's a great comfort to me to be surrounded by towering trees and fertile lands.

    An old boyfriend wanted to move to an area near Denver, so he invited me out with him one June to see if I would like it. Everything was brown! I was so disappointed. He kept saying, "But look at the mountains!", as if that made it better. LOL He moved, I stayed, and I've never regretted it. Later, when my middle daughter lived in Boulder for more than a dozen years, I came to love that part of Colorado, but still prefer my beautiful valley.

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    1. I agree on GREEN! We're sturated with it here in New England, too. I never reallzed quite how much until a friend from elementary school who lives in southern calfornia came to visit and kept proclaiming about our green.

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    2. Similar to my own recognition, Hallie, on arrival by air, and my seatmate exclaimed at how green it is here.

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    3. I'm with you on the green, too. If you can get away from the suburbs and the freeways here in north Texas, we have rolling green hills, still lush from all the rain we had in the spring.

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  6. Definitely a beach person here!!! I grew up near Saratoga NY, so I do love mountains, but give me a beach any day!!! We always went to Kennebunkport, so in retirement we moved nearby!!! Going to the beach TODAY!!!

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  7. I'm a beach woman, 100% Especially in the summer, because I love cold water swimming (which is pretty much the only kind of ocean swimming in Maine) but I adore the shore in all four seasons. Every Sunday, year-round, we walk one of our nearby beaches. I love to fill my lungs with salt air and challenge myself to notice what changes the tides have wrought in the past week. I often post a photo with the hashtag #sundaybeachwalks on my FB feed, featuring something of interest, because there's always something fascinating going on at the beach.

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    1. The air is so different at the beach! Makes one feel alive

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    2. Brenda, Ross always said he couldn't live too far away from the salt air. New England beaches are wonderful in all seasons - some of my cold weather walks have been my favorites.

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  8. I'm with Grace. There is something almost mystical about how I feel in the mountains. I can take a beach vacation and enjoy it a lot, but it doesn't have the same impact on me.

    I have many fond memories of vacations spent visiting Rocky Mountain National Park, the Grand Tetons, Pike's Peak, and of course this year's visit to the Sangre de Cristo Mountains where Philmont Scout Ranch sits. Once I get above a certain point, there is such a transcendent quiet that it seems to reach right inside me and quiet things there, too.

    I also enjoyed visiting the Smoky Mountains and the Poconos, though they are a quite different kind of experience. While the peaks are higher, their vibe seems to me more in keeping with the rolling hills of the Ohio Valley that Karen mentioned, and the Appalachians into which they lead. Not quite as mystical for me, but still awe inspiring in their verdant beauty.

    My son is currently living in the mountainous part of Japan, about 200 miles north of Tokyo, and I am looking forward to seeing what those mountains are like when we visit next year!

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    1. Being an avid reader of C.J. Box's Joe Pickett mysteries, seeing the Grand Tetons some day is still on my wish list.

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    2. Yes, we went horseback riding through the Grand Tetons, and I have to say it was magical!

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    3. As an Easterner, the first time I saw western mountains, my eyes nearly popped out of my head! I was used to thinking 5,000 feet was high...

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    4. I live in a valley surrounded by “hills”, most of them are 3000 to 5000feet. This is in California.

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  9. There is something very calming about the ocean for me, but I also love the beauty and grandeur of the mountains. I try to see God’s handiwork no matter where I am.

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    1. So true! So many sights take my breath away

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  10. Beach here too! My mom loved the beach, so our first vacations were to the beach. Mom would sit on a log and watch the waves for hours. There's not much swimming to be had in the Pacific in Oregon--way too cold. I once spent Christmas in Florida and on New Years Eve swam in the Atlantic--it was so much warmer on Dec 31 than the Pacific ever is in my neck of the woods.

    I have to give a shout out to another form of water that brings me joy--the creeks and rivers that run through our forests and produce the grand waterfalls. I'm less than an hour away from the Columbia Gorge and our waterfalls -- Multnomah Falls, Wahkeena Falls, Latourell Falls, Fairy Falls, Horsetail Falls, Wahclella Falls and Bridal Veil Falls. The sound of the water and the beauty of the falls take me to my happy place.

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    1. Hi Gillian, I just returned from visiting family in Portland, Or. They own a cabin in the Cascade Head Preserve where the Salmon River meets the Pacific (just north of Lincoln City). Talk about unspoiled nature. It is breathtaking.
      Portland is a stunning city with beautiful parks (near Reed College, Japanese Gardens, etc), and the Columbia River Gorge is spectacular.

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    2. The Columbia Gorge is breathtaking! In fact, the entire Pacific Coast just blows me away with its beauty and power.

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    3. The Pacific in California is great for swimming. It feels good to cool off from the 100 degree temperatures. The Pacific is California is a lot warmer than in Oregon..

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    4. Cascade Head is incredible. Once I went to Camp Westwind for a weekend, and from there hiked up Cascade Head. Westwind had the most amazing beach, partly because it's so isolated-- you have to take a boat across the Salmon River to get there. I had never seen so many starfish before! Anonymous, you were very lucky!

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    5. Charlene Miller-WilsonJuly 15, 2024 at 1:20 PM

      I'm converted Pacific NW gal. I lived in Vancouver, WA (near Portland, OR) for almost 20 years and love the mountains and the water. I agree with Gillian about hiking the Columbia Gorge; those water falls are spectacular. I'm not a 'lying around on the beach' person but love the PNW ocean, mesmerized watching the waves. I now live in Shelton, WA, near the Puget Sound. There is something peaceful about being near water for me.

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  11. I grew up playing in a rowboat on a chain of brackish ponds and exploring the estuaries and pebbly beaches of Long Island Sound, was introduced to the velvety sand of the Jersey shore as an adult, and will always be fond of waves and shells. I married a mountaineer and have lived in the Adirondack mountains ever since. Almost against my will I have become a mountain girl. Now even Vermont seems sort of ... flat to me. I would love to rent a house on the shore somewhere for a week or a month to hear the gulls crying and the rote on the beach and have the smell of salt and mudflats in my nose, but that's not within my means, and besides, who would take care of my sheep and the dogs? (Selden)

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    1. We all had such great childhoods with freedom that is not allowed today!

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  12. What lovely discussions and comments about what people like. As a Southern California girl, I grew up going to the beach regularly and also camping in the Sierras every summer with my family. So I love both the mountains and the beach.

    The mountains also included streams that were icy cold from snow melt, but we frolicked in them anyway. We would dam off a little swimming pool with rocks. But now I can't abide Cold water swimming in the chilly Atlantic except occasionally toward the end of August when it gets warm enough for me

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    1. I have swum in Lake Tahoe. Not any more. It’s too cold

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  13. I suspect my choices are ruled by my senses and in particular smell.
    We visited British Columbia last fall, where one of the most memorable places that we walked was Cathedral Grove. For any who have not been fortunate enough to visit, it is shown as part of a Star Wars film featuring Ewoks. It is green, and tall, and mossy, and peat-smelling and oh, so quiet. Not a bird can be heard, and yet it really is a place of majesty. If pipe organs played for the universe, it would be here.
    Then we came home. It is the same every time, and even my daughter who grew up in Ontario knows it. Stop a minute and take a really deep breath.
    We live on a lake (salt-water) that opens up through a gut to the Atlantic – hence the name of where we live. We swam as kids in the lake all summer, and would go on a ‘hike’ (less than 10 mins) to ‘the ocean beach’ once or twice a summer. We never swam in there – walk in, water so cold it sets your feet to burning, and you can no longer find the energy to even walk out of this painful experience, but eventually do – sit on beach (rocky sand, not castle-type, but excellent for ‘grit’ in making soil), find a purple rock and come home.
    This is not the thing of beauty. It is the storms. That is the time when the wind will blow and churn up the sea and either bring in its wealth, or if you are not careful take you on a quick tour to Portugal, never to return. The ocean will bring in seaweed, especially big pieces of kelp to be picked up and brought back to feed the gardens. If you are first there, as there are many who are cruising for spoils, you can harvest the bits and pieces of lobsters, crabs and scallops, and garnish enough to make a fine chowder for lunch – free! Okay, so there is a bit of grit included, but life is a sport.
    This is still not the thing of beauty. It is the smell. As the sea weed morphs from one life stage to another, it emits the beautiful smell of ocean, time, and the infinity of the universe. Pause, breathe, ahhh, peace.
    (Just so you know, I also love the smell of manure…being spread on a field.)

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    1. Margo, you are a woman after my own heart. Seaweed! Yes, to that smell! I do not like the smell of liquid manure from confined cows sprayed on the fields, which to me qualifies as a stench, but I have used my little ground-drive spreader to spread rotted cow and horse and sheep manure (mixed with bedding hay) for many years and to me it's an honest and homely smell. It must be acknowledged that occasionally others in the vicinity of my jeans and boots have disagreed.

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    2. Oops. That was me, Selden.

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    3. We had goats and sheep. There was something about a goat in rut that seemed to offend many people as it wafted off my clothes!

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  14. Water, not particularly beach. Except for a year living in Ashland, OR (Litha Creek, not sufficient water for me) I have lived close to the water — lakes, rivers, oceans — and often “right at” for all my life. The sounds, the ever-changing sights, the vast sky…bliss. Happy Friday, all. Elisabeth

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  15. I grew up on a partial island across the bay from San Diego. We spent everyday in the summer swimming at the beach or local pool. As a adult I continued to swim in the ocean and lap swim at the pool pretty much everyday. I love to body surf, boggie board, snorkel and do ocean swimming. The Cove where I would get up at 6:00 am, meet friends and we'd swim past the reef out to the first marker and watch the sun rise. We'd see pelicans, sea gulls, sea lions.

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    1. The Cove at La Jolla is rather polluted with too many sea lions now!

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  16. From Diana: I’m with Grace. Though I love the water, I am not a fan of the beach. Though there was one beach that I loved where there was no pollution and the water was very blue. I have fond memories of visiting the mountains, especially in Europe. Hiked the Swiss alps and it felt very peaceful there.

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    1. The Alps are my favorite. Switzerland is perfect with lakes and mountains

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    2. I do like visiting & seeing coastal views. But since I was never much of a swimmer, spending time on the beach & going into the ocean or lake has little allure for me.

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  17. Beach for me. Jersey girl, so I was pre-programed. These days I love being under the water rather than on the water. I used to say I made a bad bargain trading gills for lungs at birth, but I've been told humans never have a gill phase.

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  18. I love the look of the ocean, but I'm a mountain girl. I look out over my porch and I can see the gently rolling Allegheny Mountains. I drive down from Pittsburgh and as soon as I sight the mountains, I feel my soul relax.

    I do prefer "older" mountains and hills, though. I spent a week in Salt Lake City in June, which is right next to the Wasatch Range of the Rockies. I will admit to the Rockies being stupendous and I'm glad I saw them. But as someone above said, it was so dry and brown! I watched the descent into Pittsburgh, saw all that lush green, and was so happy to be back in my nice, elderly mountains. LOL

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    1. I agree. I love lush and green. The Alps are perfect!

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    2. Yes, but the west is a beautiful green in winter, when the east is brown or white. I love our dry summers, and enjoy thr green in winter and spring.

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  19. I’m a water girl. I’ve been brought up near St Lawrence River. When we were young, my father built a cabin beside a little river in the country. We stayed there all summer, in the water most of the time.
    I discovered the ocean, as an adult, on my honeymoon and it was love at first glance. I knew that I would tend to return as often as possible.
    Danielle

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    1. I love the way everyone in Canada has a cabin on a lake or river. I used to love to visit my friend Lyn Hamilton's cabin.

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  20. I loved to swim as a kid and was lucky to find a water exercise class being offered at my local JC. We would go to the coast during really hot weekend days but, like Gillian, did not swim in it. Way too cold. Plus the San Andreas fault goes into the water at Bodega Head so there are nasty sneaker waves. Now, if I go to the coast, I watch the waves from the car or stand in the parking lot, sort near the edge. Walking down the narrow trails is more than my knees can handle. I also love the driving along river, through the towering redwoods, which will get me to the coast better than the vineyards that are growing in place of the apple orchards of Sebastopol.

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    1. That's a beautiful drive along the Russian River, Deanna.

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    2. Lisa in Long BeachJuly 12, 2024 at 1:37 PM

      We were just up in Healdsburg for a scorching 3 days. But driving along the Russian River and walking amongst the coastal redwoods in the Armstrong Grove was heavenly!

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  21. Give me both, please! I don't swim, but love the beach--all of your senses engaged--soothing and spiritual and restful. But mountains answer a call deep within me. The Rockies, the mountains in the southwest, the ancient Appalachians, even, as Karen noted, the gentle hills of southern Ohio. For those of you who have only ever experienced Ohio along Lake Erie--drive south of Columbus on 23. As you enter Ross County, the hills begin, ringing the Scioto Valley. I spent much of my career as an archaeologist in the field in that part of the state and counted myself so lucky!

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    1. The Edge of Appalachia is a natural treasure, too. Local organizations have worked really hard to set thousands of acres aside to preserve the forests.

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  22. I love the beach, and always have. For my entire life I’ve lived in towns with beaches. I don’t swim (I’m afraid of the water; that’s another story) but I love listening to and watching the waves. And when I go on vacation I go to a place with beaches. It’s fun to walk along the beach and pick up seashells or watch the birds, or look out for dolphins Someone asked me why I vacation at a place with beaches when we have a few right here in our town. My response is that all beaches are different. Even the beaches in our town are different from each other!

    Mountains are really pretty but I don’t feel the need to live near them!

    DebRo

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  23. I'm another beach person. I enjoy going to the mountains, but water is my first choice. Of course, a nice lake in the mountains would scratch both.

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    1. A nice lake beats everything else for swimming, Mark.

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  24. I love to sit on the beach overlooking Nantucket Sound at West Dennis Beach, MA listening to the waves and reading a book with an umbrella over my head and a cold drink in hand with a few snacks in my beach bag!

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  25. Lisa in Long BeachJuly 12, 2024 at 1:39 PM

    Despite where I live, it’s the mountains for me! Admittedly, adding a river or lake is even better. We were just up visiting friends in Bend OR and kayaking along the Deschutes River with the trees and nearby mountains (still with snow) was perfect!

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  26. Beach! Whether it's at a lake, river, or the seaside. I love to look for treasures along the shore. I used to swim in Lake Whitney in Texas when my grandparents had a house overlooking the lake. Swimming and fossil hunting couldn't be beat. My parents would drive the 50+ miles to Galveston Island as a treat for us kids. Jumping the waves and looking for sea shells. Fond memories.

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  27. I love the water ... specifically, the ocean!!! It is the most soothing place on earth ... on the water or on a beach watching the waves, the birds diving for fish, dolphins leaping through waves, and the sun or moon sparkling on the water. There is no better place on the planet! Sunsets on the West Coast or Hawaii ... sunrises on the East Coast. That is my happy place.

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  28. I have always lived close to both growing up and went to the beach to cool off a lot during the summer.
    As an adult I have not had any interest in beaches, I’m not interested in swimming in the ocean and the beaches don’t have that much attraction for me. They all look pretty much the same.
    When I have traveled either in this country or others I have gravitated to areas that have mountains nearby.
    Most of my travels have included visiting mountainous areas such as Austria, Switzerland, Norway, especially the fiords, the Rocky mountains both here and in Canada. I’ve found each area to have a unique beauty that beaches don’t have..
    Having said that, I do like to go to lakes and places with waterfalls. These are frequently located in mountain areas

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  29. I have lived in the Ohio River Valley my whole life, 70 years now, and, like Karen, I love its green beauty. I was born in Maysville, KY, which has lovely hills surrounding the town (the baby steps to the Appalachia Mountains), and I so missed those sweet little hills when I got married and moved to Owensboro, Kentucky, which is quite flat. However, I'm still on the Ohio River, which is lovely. And, I went to college in Lexington, Kentucky, which is called the Bluegrass Region, and it is truly a gorgeous area.

    Now, ocean or mountains? This question is a hard one for me. I love both. Although I think I would feel more comfortable renting a beach house by myself and I would love walking the beaches, I'm not an ocean swimmer or snorkeler or boogie board or paddle board, or, well you get the picture. I enjoy the sounds of the ocean and looking out at the endless water. But, I enjoy sitting on a porch to look out at the ocean rather than on the sand. Walking on sand is lovely; sitting on sand (even in a chair or on a towel) can be irritating. But, I would love a get-away to the ocean soon. I really need it.

    Then, there are the mountains. My dream home is a house in the mountains with a babbling brook or stream running in front of it. There is a definite feeling of being one with nature and peaceful in such a setting. Watching deer drink from the stream and feeling the trees surround you with their aged presence suits the loner in me.

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  30. Mountain person here. Being on a mountain lake where we can canoe is heaven.

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