Tuesday, July 16, 2024

Guilty pleasures – the lure of the advice column by Leslie Budewitz


LUCY BURDETTE: Today we welcome back good friend Leslie Budewitz to talk about her new spice shop mystery, To Err is Cumin. She’s also musing about advice columns, one of my favorite things to read in the paper, and the foundation for my advice column mystery series. (And I don’t feel the least bit guilty about reading them!) Welcome Leslie!


LESLIE BUDEWITZ: I adore advice columns. Reading them is like eavesdropping on neighbors you haven't met yet. The woman who tolerated her husband's pandemic beard, even though she hates it, but now can't convince him to shave. The cousin of the bride who wonders how many showers she should be expected to attend, gift in hand. The man whose girlfriend has the temerity to ask to be paid for working in his business. 

Seriously??? What do you do, write in, then wave the newspaper column in your sweet hunny’s face and say “See? I was right!”?

What I most enjoy is the glimpses of tensions, major and minor, in real people's lives. The window on interactions we haven’t witnessed. The chance to think about situations we haven’t faced, asking us to put ourselves in other people’s boat shoes or ballet flats and imagine how the world looks from that vantage. They help us better understand each other—and ourselves. 

Like good fiction, they build empathy.

Sometimes they make us laugh. A classic is the advice to a woman whose neighbor regularly popped in at dinner time: After dinner, put the dishes on the floor for the dog to lick, then put them in the cupboard while the neighbor watches. 

Some wisdom is simple, but profound. We can all identify with the letter writer (LW, in advice column parlance) who wanted to go back to college but worried that she’d be 55 in four years when she graduated. “How old will you be in four years if you don’t go back to school?”


As a writer, I’m drawn to exchanges that expose deep emotion and conflict. A recent letter from a mother whose teenage son had come out as gay sought advice on telling a homophobic grandparent. The responses from the columnist and readers who’d been there—as child, parent, or grandparent—gave me insight into the wide range of experiences, and helped me craft a minor character in my Spice Shop mysteries who is trans. As an author, I need to know what shaped each of my characters, whether that backstory appears on the page or not. The glimpses these LWs give us, through their willingness to be vulnerable, helps me see beneath the surface. 

Turns out that’s useful in real life, too.

Of course, some LWs have an agenda, just like some characters. They want confirmation that their behavior is appropriate, even when it isn't. So interesting—the ways we try to justify and explain our behavior. And yet, the desire for a pat on the head from someone else reveals that maybe we don't completely believe the story we're trying to tell ourselves. And it’s so much fun when the columnist turns the tables on a sanctimonious LW and points out the flaws in their thinking or behavior. 

When I was planning To Err is Cumin, I read a letter from a man who committed a crime years ago. He’d planned it; he’d even told his wife, who’d been against it. He went ahead. No one was hurt, he insisted. Now, when they disagree, she threatens to tell their grown children. He’s appalled. She’s lived comfortably for years as a result of his actions, without complaint. What should he do? 

What a fascinating dynamic! A self-deceiving crook and a spouse engaging in emotional blackmail. Alas, I had no idea what he’d done. I read every comment—still no clue. But how could I not use that scenario, bursting with tensions? 

Of course, the situation changed as I wrote, and the plot on the page bears little resemblance to the story LW told. 

But you’ll know. It will be our little secret. 

Later, as Pepper, my main character, and I were tracking a young woman named Talia around Seattle, I read a letter from a woman whose daughter had cut off all contact after an argument. Worse, the teenage granddaughter was refusing to communicate with the LW, her grandmother. I was struck by the columnist’s compassion. Keep reaching out, she wrote. Your granddaughter is a child, dependent on her mother’s love and physical support. It’s perfectly natural—even appropriate—for her to follow her mother’s lead. Be the adult. Work to end the estrangement, if you can, but don’t make the granddaughter pay for it.

So what do you know? When Talia tells Pepper how ashamed she is of her teenage self for refusing her grandmother’s gifts and letters, Pepper knows just what to say. And maybe Pepper’s advice will help the two stubborn women Talia loves resolve their differences. 

Reading advice columns gave me the idea for the struggle that sparked the story, and reading advice columns helped me wrap it up. Good things come from guilty pleasures.

Do you read advice columns? Got a favorite? What’s your preferred guilty pleasure? Leslie will be giving away a copy of TO ERR IS CUMIN on the Reds and Readers Facebook page. Stop over and say hello!

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Leslie Budewitz writes the Spice Shop mysteries set in Seattle’s Pike Place Market and the Food Lovers’ Village mysteries, set in NW Montana. She also writes historical fiction—watch for All God’s Sparrows and Other Stories: A Stagecoach Mary Fields Collection coming in September 2024. As Alicia Beckman, she writes moody suspense. She cooks, reads, paints, hikes, and gardens in NW Montana. And yes, there are bears in her yard. 

To Err is Cumin 

Coming in audio July 16 and in trade paperback and ebook August 6.

One person’s treasure is another’s trash. . .

When Seattle Spice Shop owner Pepper Reece finds a large amount of cash stuffed in an old chair, she investigates—never suspecting a wingback will set her off on a trail of deception, embezzlement, and murder, and put her own life in danger.


92 comments:

  1. Congratulations, Leslie, on your new book. "To Err is Cumin" sounds quite captivating; I'm looking forward to reading it and discovering how Pepper solves this mystery . . . .

    I must admit that I haven't read advice columns in a few years . . . I always read them first thing, but somehow in the past few years I have gotten away from reading them. Perhaps I should rectify that?

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  2. I read advice columns for a few years. But I grew tired of them quickly since I felt like they were giving the same advice over and over. Maybe it was just me. Anyway, I focused on the best part of the paper - the comics!

    Congrats on your new book, Leslie!

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    1. I agree with you that the comics are the best part of the paper, Mark. The comics and the puzzles.

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    2. Mark and Brenda, I'm loving the trend -- most obvious in the Wash Post -- to diversify the columnists. A broader cross-section means a broader cross-section of LWs and perspectives, and that's good for all of us!

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  3. Leslie, congrats on your upcoming book release.

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  4. Congratulations on your new book. (Hmm, wasn't I congratulating you on a new book recently?) Anyway, I love your idea for using advice columns for inspiration. I love to read them, too - or did, when we were getting a newspaper.

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    1. Thanks! I admit, we only get the local weekly in print; the other papers I read are all online.

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  5. LESLIE: You know I am always happy to read a new Spice Shop mystery!
    Using a real LW question in an advice question is a great idea.

    When my parents subscribed to home delivery of the Toronto Star, I used to read Dear Abby &/or Ann Landers. These days, I read digital newspapers and don't see any daily advice columns.

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    1. GRRR: Should be "advice column" not "advice question".

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    2. Thanks, Grace! Sounds like there's some variation in online newspapers -- I read the Wash Post and Seattle Times online and see a variety of advice columns.

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    3. That makes sense. I read Canada's national Globe & Mail and my local Ottawa Citizen digital newspapers.

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  6. I can't wait for the new book, Leslie! I don't read Dear Abby, but I read Ask Amy for years. She has left and now it's Ask Eric. The Boston Globe also has Love Letters, which I read, and sometimes Miss Manners. Love them all. How fun that an advice column helped you out with your story.

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    1. I like Ask Eric and Ask Amy, too. I read the NYT, which has several others I can't seem to name off the top of my head.

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    2. I liked Ask Amy, and Ask Eric looks good. Miss Manners is a hoot! My fave is the Hax Files by Carolyn Hax. The WaPo has a couple of others as well.

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    3. I love Carolyn Hax's advice too. I don't like too much snark and shaming aimed at the poor suckers who write in. True confession: I did once write to he who shall not be named and my question ran in a big newspaper, and the answer was unnecessarily embarrassing. I'm over it though...:)

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    4. Lucy, who, who? (No, don't answer.) Shaming is bad, yes, but redirecting the misguided to right thinking? Good!

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  7. Leslie, congratulations on your new book. It's interesting to hear how and from where ideas arrive for author's plots, advice columns, conversations overheard on trains, newspaper clippings. I love it!

    I did read advice columns for years, Dear Abby and Ann Landers, Miss Manners, and any that were in the magazines I bought. But I don't seek them out anymore. It does seem like a great source for discovering disfunction!

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    1. "Discovering dysfunction" -- exactly! And yes, they were in magazines -- as a teen, I loved "Can This Marriage Survive?" in one of my mother's women's magazines!

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    2. Ladies Home Journal. They are I bound vols in academic libraries. Great for research

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  8. Cathy Akers-JordanJuly 16, 2024 at 7:43 AM

    What a fun idea for a series, Leslie! I miss reading Ann Landers. When I was a kid I learned a lot from reading her column, like things my family didn’t talk about (like sex), compassion for others, being grateful for your family, etc. I loved her straightforward, practical answers. Sometimes the letters were so strange I’d wonder of someone made them up, but that was part of the joy of reading Ann every day.

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    1. You do have to scratch your head over humans sometimes, don't you? :)

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  9. Congrats on your latest! I've gone steady with Carolyn Hax, Amy, and Miss Manners for years, and more recently, Eric and the NYT Modern Love Column. I'm also a fan of "Which would they choose?", a NYT apartment and home-purchasing feature. That rathole? It doesn't have enough wall outlets.

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    1. Oh, I don't know that one -- House Hunters in print -- I'd love it! And thanks!

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  10. Confessing that I also find advice columns compelling reads. Etiquette too.
    Not that I know a lot, but my sister used to tell her kids to behave or they'd be sent to "Aunt Becky's School for Manners" so it seems I do have a reputation in my family...
    Anyhow, Leslie, congratulations on the new book; the spice store is a great concept for those of us with a love of food.

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    1. Thanks, Becky -- and we're all laughing at your sister's threat!

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  11. Congrats on TO ERR IS CUMIN! I like advice columns, too. My fave twenty years ago and now long lost to the ether of websites past was "Ask Earlene." Or maybe it was Lurlene? ("How favorite is it really, Rhonda? Can't remember her name?" #eyeroll #cringe)

    Anyway, Earlene/Lurlene was a pseudonym for someone connected with a Texas college's equine studies program. Her thumbnail avatar was a partially obscured woman in a Dolly Parton hair all decked out in western glam. I may be hazy on her pseudonym, but I remember her advice to a worried dad.

    He was all worked up that his young daughter wanted to show horses, but he didn't want her to wear the expected western horse show attire of makeup with a tighty blingy western shirt called a "slinky." He didn't want her boys to see his little girl in makeup, let alone in a slinky.

    Earlene/Lurlene told him not to worry. Boys weren't at the horse shows anyway. They were at the rodeo.

    I know. That was sort of a window in time. My point is--yup, there is one and I thought you'd enjoy the western vibe--there are advice columns out there on almost any topic.

    Congratulations!

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    1. Thanks, Rhonda! I love that story -- and she was spot on!

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    2. Cathy Akers-JordanJuly 16, 2024 at 6:05 PM

      I bet she was right, too! It seems like boys would prefer a rodeo to a horse show.

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  12. Leslie-What a great idea! I really enjoy reading anything that brings to light that you can’t fix stupid! Alicia Kullas

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  13. Definitely lots of drama and tension in the advice columns! I used to read them, but our local papers currently carry an insipid column with namby-pamby, predictable advice--seems very superficial. I confess to reading the AITA letters on reddit, where people respond, yes, YTA, or no, NTA, or sometimes everyone's TA. The 'A' is a common, mildly offensive term for someone behaving badly. I can certainly see the value of mining these for character/plot ideas! Congrats on your newest release, Leslie!

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    1. Oh, I've heard of that Reddit thread but haven't read it! To sort of spell it out for others, it's Am I the A** Here, occasionally a good Q to ask ourselves!

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  14. Hi, Leslie! Congratulations an To Err is Cumin! Your spice shop books always have delicious names.

    Even when I was a kid, like eight or nine, I remember waiting impatiently for my parents to be finished with the newspaper so I could read Dear Abby, and the comic, of course. I think a lot of my common sense came from reading her solid advice.

    Nowadays, the advice is more real, and sometimes pretty snarky. Miss Manners sounds like she is OVER it, some days, after decades of reading stupid questions, including this one, and haven't you people been paying attention?? She makes me laugh. How to cut someone dead, in a perfectly polite way.

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    1. Thanks, Karen! A reader named this one. And yes, Miss Manners is the Queen of Snark!

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  15. Congratulations Leslie! The book sounds great! I love advice columns and recognized a couple of the ones you mentioned. Occasionally the letters are so outlandish that I think they must be fake.

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    1. Thanks, Gillian! In a recent pre-retirement column, "Ask Amy" admitted she'd been pranked once that she knew of and ran the old column again. Brave!

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  16. Congratulations on the new book, Leslie. I have been known to read advice columns. Some of them definitely make me shake my head, especially those in the "people behaving badly searching for validation" category.

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    1. Thanks, Liz. I love those, too -- and how rarely they get it!

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    2. Thanks, Liz! Love that, too -- especially that they rarely get it!

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  17. I grew up reading Ann Landers and Dear Abby. Did you know they were twin sisters? My mother-in-law went to high school with them in Sioux City, Iowa. I like Dear Heloise for her household hints and solutions to practical problems like stains.
    Congrats on the new book, Leslie. I love a good pun for a title!

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    1. Thanks, Brenda! I always thought it so curious that they both -- Esther Pauline and Pauline Esther -- ended up doing the same kind of work!

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    2. Thanks, Brenda! I always thought it funny-strange that they -- Pauline Esther and Esther Pauline -- took on the same jobs!

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    3. Here’s an article about Ann Landers and Dear Abby: https://jwa.org/thisweek/jul/04/1918/ann-landers-and-abigail-van-buren

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  18. Congrats on your new book Leslie! Looks like a fun read.
    I used to read Dear Abby from the time I was a kid til sometime in the 80's maybe. I noticed NPR has an occasional advice "column" that uses different psychologists. It's usually a fun read.

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    1. Thanks! I don't know that NPR column -- must search it out!

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    2. Thanks! I don't know that NPR column -- must search it out!

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  19. I read Dear Abby and Ann Landers for many years. Now I read the various kinds of advice columns in the NYT. My response is often: “people LIVE like that? No wonder they need help!”
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  20. To Err is Cumin sounds delicious!

    Since I don't receive a paper paper anymore, I rarely read advice columns these days, but I grew up on Ann Landers and Dear Abby. The only column I remember is an inspirational one. Perhaps because it lived on my refrigerator until it crumpled into dust. It was titled Life is Too Short To Waste Waiting. Good advice.

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  21. I used to read advice columns avidly in the old days. Dear Abby is my favorite.

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    1. Abby and Ann set the standard, didn't they? But I do enjoy some of the modern versions.

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  22. From Diana: Hi, Leslie! Congratulations on the new mystery. I remember meeting you at a mystery conference and talking about my work as a paralegal. Look forward to reading TO ERR IS CUMIN.

    Another lifetime ago when we used to read magazines and get the daily paper, I read advice columns in women’s magazines. I remember an advice column in a movie magazine for teens and a letter made me very sad. The LW wrote about having a Deaf sibling and the LW did not sign nor did the parents. I forgot what the advice was. I read Dear Abby and Dear Ann columns in the papers, then I read Carolyn Hax columns.

    Somehow I seem to be missing the advice columns in the Sunday papers these days.

    On another note, there is a Spice Shop in my town and I love going there. Kind of expensive so I usually buy one or two things there.

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    1. Hi, Diana! I remember meeting you -- at Malice, maybe? What a poignant letter you describe -- heart-breaking, actually.

      I can easily picture a score or two of Reds readers turning -- scrolling? -- to the advice columns this weekend!

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    2. Hi Leslie! Yes, I think it was at Malice. Diana

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  23. Welcome, Leslie! Such fun to read this. I love advice columns. Carolyn Hax. Ask Amy. The Washington Post is the richest source. Love Letters (Meredith Goldstein) in the Boston Globe is super I get annoyed with the advice from "The Ethicist" in the NY Times. Advice columns are second only to Games. It's too easy to waste time these days.

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    1. Easy, and such fun! The Wash Post used to have a Date Lab, where they set people up on a blind date, then interviewed them afterwards -- I enjoyed that one, too!

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    2. That's like the Boston Globe match-up column. The couple each gives feedback afterward and at the end say if they want a second date or not!

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  24. Hi Leslie, and congrats on the new Pepper adventure! I can't wait to read it!
    I read Abby and Carolyn Hax pretty regularly, and I LOVE Miss Manners. I did a panel with Judith Martin at a book festival once and she was just as wonderful and snarky as you would imagine.

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    1. Thanks, Debs! And what fun -- and maybe a little scary -- to meet Miss Manners herself!

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    2. From Diana : my great aunt loved miss manners.

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  25. Oh, yes, LOVE advice columns! The Ethicist, and Dear Miss Manners, back in the day. ANd now Carolyn Hax! AND the dating matchups in the boston Globe Sunday Magazine, does that count? Welcome, darling Leslie!

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    1. I always read that matchup-column! So interesting.

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    2. Oh, the dating matchups definitely count! I loved the WaPo's Date Lab columns, sadly discontinued. People are so -- human, sometimes!

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  26. Hi Leslie, I really enjoyed this post with its wonderful examples of questions and answers. We get our local Bern newspaper in paper form every day, but sadly, it has no advice columns or comics. Still, it's sometimes useful for writing ideas. I remember loving Ann Landers when I was a young teenager and being amazed at the problems that the LWs had. I wondered how ADULTS could get themselves into so much trouble. Oh yes, and congratulations on the new Pepper book!

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    1. Thanks, Kim! Reading them is a rite of passage for teens, isn't it? And an eye-popper at the same time!

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    2. Hi, Kim! Yes, the columns are a great training ground for teens! I know I ate them up!

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  27. Leslie, I literally groaned and laughed when I saw the title TO ERR IS CUMIN. Well done! I love advice columns, like everyone else, apparently, and i can only hope Caroline Hax is making bank at the Washington Post, because I think she's the main reason lots of readers keep their subscriptions.

    Now, an advice columnist who figures out how to use her knowledge and platform to make money in a criminal fashion... there's an idea.

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    1. I always say if I made you groan and made you hungry, I did my job! I actually talked to a writer -- oh, at Left Coast Crime or Malice? -- who is working on a series with an advice columnist protagonist. And Barb Goffman's "Dear Emily Etiquette" is one of the funniest short stories I've ever read!

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    2. Yes, Leslie, meant to say what a great title!! Inspired!

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    3. Thanks, Debs! It came from a reader!

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  28. I love them all, Sometimes think they raised me along with the parents. Now they are great for starting conversations. Wouldn't a dinner party with your favorite columnists be fun Dr Ruth would be at my table.

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    1. Oh, Dr. Ruth! The word "icon" gets thrown around a bit too much in popular culture, but it fits her!

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  29. I used to read Abby and Ann Landers faithfully. Miss Manners too. Now my guilty pleasure is Charlotte Dobre on Facebook. Lots of awful people out there!

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  30. I too love advice columns and have always fantasized about writing one. Finally got to do it when I made one of my characters in IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN YOU an advice columnist! Such fun.

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    1. Ooh, Lynn, way to make the fantasy come true! One of the best parts of the writing life!

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    2. Wish fulfillment -- one reason we write, right?

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  31. I loved reading Ann Landers in our daily newspaper when I was growing up and before I left home. I'd always save it to read last, like dessert. It wasn't until I was older that I realized she had a twin sister who also wrote an advice column under Dear Abby. Of course, this topic sent me down the rabbit hole, and I had to look up Ann (Esther Pauline) and Abby (Pauline Esther). Isn't it interesting that there names are flipped versions? Anyway, if you want to read archived letters, you can go to https://annlanders.com/advice.php for Ann Landers, where they have a menu of topics for the letters. I'm sure Dear Abby has the same. And, now I have to go look up Carolyn Hax.

    Leslie, I love the title of your new book, and it sounds like a great read. I love stories about people finding hidden things, especially cash. There was someone in our family who actually did hide a nice sum of cash and was found after the person died.

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    1. Thanks, Kathy! Aren't those stories fascinating? They send the imagination spinning -- or at least, mine!

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  32. Leslie, Great book title and topic! I too read them even though they make me laugh! Such angst over seating charts and clothing and unwelcome plus-ones at weddings! I have often thought the LWs are begging to become characters in reality shows!

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    1. Oh, the unwelcome plus-ones! Might be the most common topic, and the one that gives the columnists the most fits! Thanks, Susan!

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  33. Congrats on the new release, Leslie! It sounds wonderful. I do enjoy advice columns for all the reasons you stated. They can be fascinating!

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    1. Thanks, Jenn! They're permission to be peeping Toms and Tams!

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  34. Congratulations on your new release, Leslie. I'm looking forward to reading it. I used to really enjoy reading the advice columns in the paper, however I no longer take the paper and they haven't had any advice columns in the paper for years.

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    1. Thanks, Dianne. Oh, the poor newspaper business -- so pressured. Must be hard for editors to know what to cut. So glad the papers I read -- mostly digital -- like snooping as much as I do!

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  35. Love the book title! I used to read Ann Landers. Now I sometimes read the advice column in our local paper. lindaherold999(at)gmail(dot)com

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  36. I haven’t read advice columns since we gave up the paper. I don’t miss them. I think we read them to get advice vicariously. I love the title . . . Cumin! I think I just found a new author to follow!

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