Monday, July 8, 2024

My Nightmare Job.

 RHYS BOWEN: On vacation with whole family a couple of weeks ago I volunteered to cook breakfast one day. Full English breakfast, or rather full English plus pancakes. Turn bacon before it burns. Flip pancakes. Take out toast. Fry eggs one at a time.And it occurred to me that short order cook is one of my nightmare jobs.  Constantly under pressure to get a dozen things cooked exactly right and out at the same time in a hot greasy kitchen. So then I tried to think what other jobs would be the worst ever for me,   I don’t mean the really awful ones like cleaning loos, or sorting through garbage, plucking chickens, killing animals in an abatoir. Okay-- army. I’d hate to take orders all day, to sleep in a room with a lot of other women, to be belittled and shouted at, have to run with a heavy backpack on my back and boots on my feet. And I wouldn’t want to fight anybody.





What else? Fire fighter? Too scary.  Anything repetitive and mindless… fileting fish, shucking oysters, inserting bolts into something on a factory production line. And yet as a student I once worked in a testing lab at a big factory. Most of the time we were in our lab but some big tests had to be run on the factory floor and I was sent down to do them. The women who worked on those production lines, doing the same motion over and over, seemed quite cheerful. They chatted and laughed as they worked. They sang along with the radio. But it would still be a nightmare job for me.

So what would be your nightmare job?

LUCY BURDETTE: I’ve had a few nightmare jobs in my youth, and one of them was sewing leather handbags on an industrial sewing machine. It was so hard! Nothing like sewing on my Singer at home. And yet as you describe, the ladies working around me were cheerful, and very fast. I lasted 2.5 days. Astronaut, I would hate that. Feeling so out of control and away from everything I knew and loved, and afraid something would go terribly wrong, the craft would blow up and that would be that. Or even worse, float off course and you’d just be waiting to run out of oxygen. Yikes, I could go on and on. But how lucky I am to be a writer!

 HALLIE EPHRON: A job I’m least suited for would be therapist. I can’t control my eye-rolls and I’m far too “directive” (as my husband would have said.) And I’d make a terrible restaurant chef. Though I love to cook, I only love to cook what I (right now) feel like eating.

JENN McKINLAY: Salesperson. I’d be terrible. Anything where I lived in a cubicle. Nope. Healthcare worker. I’d faint. Anything with numbers. Nope. Nope. Nope. For the good of all - seriously, no numbers. 

HANK PHILLIPPI RYAN: Jenn, yes, healthcare worker, I would be crying the entire time. They are saints. Being an accountant, HA! What a terrible mess that would be. Horrific. And agree, NO way about astronaut: quickly, years ago, I applied to be the first Journalist in Space,and I really thought I had a chance. I filled out the application, thinking how it was DEFINITELY going to work, and then got to the ESSAY. Please tell us, it said,in 500 words, why you want to be the first journalist in space.

Okay, I thought, can do.

But once I started thinking about what to write, I realized: FORGET ABOUT IT! NO WAY I’M DOING THIS! And that was the end of that.

Also, any job where I have to drive. Hate that. I’m the world's worst driver.

JULIA SPENCER-FLEMING: Despite the fact I taught pre-K Sunday School for several years, I would run screaming from a job as an elementary or high school teacher. I barely had enough patience for my own offspring, I’d be erupting like JK Simmon’s music teacher in WHIPLASH with other kids. (I do love teaching at our community college, though - adults are great!)

Also, and I realize this sounds wussy, I’d hate any job where I had to be outdoors in the sun and heat. I do fine in cool or even cold weather - sign me up as a park ranger in Alaska - but I wilt when the temp gets over 80F/27C. Half my family is from Alabama and I spent many years in the south, but at this point I am totally acclimated to Maine (average summer temperature in the south: 70F/21C.)

DEBORAH CROMBIE:  I would hate any job where I had to stand on my feet all day. Hair dresser, no way, and I'd be a disaster at waiting tables.  But funnily, as it's most people's idea of hell, I could do sales–I worked traveling and doing cold calls and actually liked it. But add me to Julia's "stay out of the heat" club. I look at the landscaping crews here, always in long-sleeves with heads, necks, and faces covered, and I cannot imagine how they manage it. Ditto construction crews in Texas summers!

RHYS: Some of these resonate with me, some don't. I love teaching little kids, especially around second/third grade when they adore their teacher. I enjoy being outdoors except for the past week when it has been over 100 degrees. But nothing in space. I can't even stand roller coasters. And certainly no cold calling in a call center. I think everyone who leaves college should work at least one nightmare job before they go into a profession so that they get the feel of what life is like for many people just trying to earn a living.

Okay Reddies: your turn, Have you had a nightmre job, or what would yours be?

80 comments:

  1. Luckily, I never really had a nightmare job.
    But reading your lists & past experiences, I would definitely be horrible at sales. As an introvert, I would have a hard time convincing strangers to buy stuff. Well, maybe I could work at a bookstore.

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    1. Bookstore clerk is a great idea Grace! I worked for a year in Brentano and I loved it!

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    2. OK, maybe it wouldn't be so bad working in a bookstore. Except when you get a customer who says "I'm looking for a specific book. I can't remember the title or author but I know the book cover is red"!

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    3. Grace, you’d get to know your store’s inventory. And if the customer could give you some tidbit of information beyond the book cover, your colleagues could probably help you. At least that’s how it was for me when I was a children’s librarian. — Pat S

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    4. PAT: True. That red cover book query was one of many real questions I got asked when I manned the reference desk as a student librarian in both junior high & university. This was during the days of card catalogues, no internet searches. It was possible to walk through the high school stacks but not 8 floor of my university's arts & science library to find this elusive book!

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  2. When I was in college, I spent a summer working on a blueberry farm . . . sitting beside a conveyor belt sorting blueberries is mind-numbing. So, no thank you to a production line job, or to being a therapist, or to being a healthcare worker . . . And definitely no thank you to being a salesperson or an accountant . . . . I like to cook, but I cannot see myself being a short order cook . . . . I'd never choose to teach high school; give me the Little Ones, though, and I'm happy with that . . . .

    However . . . I'll definitely take that astronaut job that no one seems to want . . . .

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    1. So interesting that you would take the astronaut job. You can definitely have it!

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    2. The astronaut job is yours, Joan!

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  3. I'm with Julia on not teaching little ones, or at least not groups of them. And no cold calls! I can't even do it for my favorite political candidates. I'm with Hank on accountant or anything with numbers. Trust me, you wouldn't want me doing that. Definite no on the army or anything with fire. Or being a roofer. I loved being a doula and teaching childbirth classes, but I never wanted the responsibility of being a midwife, especially not a home-birth midwife.

    I had a cubicle job for many years and enjoyed it. Writing technical documentation, I worked with smart people, had good pay, flexible hours, and casual dress, and I was working with words. Plus, now I can write recipes and directions that are clear and usable. (Sorry, that morphed into good job, not bad job...)

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    1. I agree, Edith. Not a roofer, especially since I could no longer climb the ladder!

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  4. The job I lasted one day - never ever work in a sub-basement sub-basement sub-basement medical lab. Any job that requires me to stand and sell to people (sales), no outdoor job (construction and the like). Like Hallie, I could never be a therapist because my eye-rolls would cause me to lose my job. I could never be a driver (uber or taxi).

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    1. Uber driver could be interesting or nightmare but not in a city

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    2. Wondering if anyone's written a mystery series with an uber driver as the detective. Seems like a no-brainer. Pick your city. Villains are self-driving cars?

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  5. Thank goodness I never had to work at a nightmare job! Probably working as a waitress would be my most unsuitable job. Not only because I can't be on my feet all the time. I know I'd mix up everyone's orders and then I'd trip and fall with a tray of food. People would stay away in droves from any establishment where I worked.

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  6. You all are making me snicker with your therapist comments. You know I was a clinical psychologist and private practice for years and a good one. I do not think I ever rolled one eye. It’s a matter of focusing on the pain that the person is in who sits in front of you. If you can do that, Their words really matter

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    1. Lucy, I couldn’t be a therapist. I would have no problem focusing on the person’s pain but then it would affect me to much. I have a much too empathic personality.
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    2. My daughter’s also a therapist working with traumatized children and loves that she can really help

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  7. My nightmare job that I've had was working at McDonalds. I last one winter but when you are working for the world's largest gaping a-hole for a manager and his satanic handmaiden from hell as his assistant manager, it felt like an eternity.

    These days, I would hate to have to work retail jobs. One reason is because I just can't stand up that long. After injuring my back, I can push to maybe three hours standing up in a row. But after that my back is killing me.

    The other reason is that most of them seem to require you to take a drug test in order to get hired (Target, Shaw's, Walmart too). And while I would have no problem passing a drug test, I think it is ridiculous to get tested for a job that you should be required to be on drugs to want the job in the first place. That could be just my natural obstinance shining through.

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    1. I love your description of the McDonald’s team, Jay. I think managers at low end jobs love that little bit of power

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    2. What a great description of the managers and thoughts on drug testing. :) :)

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  8. After a summer as a motel maid, I vowed to find a better job...short order cook in a lunch counter at the local mall!

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  9. Hank Phillippi RyanJuly 8, 2024 at 7:44 AM

    I know it sounds like a nightmare job, but When I was 17 or so, I had a job at a publishing company as a proofreader. I absolutely loved it! But we had to read the entire Indiana code of laws. I still loved it.
    And my luckiest avoidance of nightmare job was when I almost worked at a dry cleaners – – and they had offered me the summer job when I was 16, but when they realized I was left-handed, I was fired before I started, because they could not trained me to work the machines. Can you imagine how lucky I am? If I had worked at a dry cleaners all summer, with all those chemicals, I cannot even imagine what would’ve happened to me. ,

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    1. I would love to be a proofreader!

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    2. Hank, my grandmother was left handed too. In school, a teacher tried to force her to write with her right hand and my formidable great grandmother made it clear to the teacher that she LET my grandmother write with her left hand and that was that! Diana

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    3. Proofreader wouldn’t be nightmare for me but I’d be no good at it. I never see errors in my ms.

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    4. I suspect I'd enjoy being a proofreader. There is something about noting areas that don't make sense or seem to be in the wrong place, etc. that appeals to me. -- Victoria

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    5. Proofreading would be something I would also like.
      I’m always finding errors in books I am reading-grammatical, spelling, story inconsistencies, etc. They just jump out at me when I read. It’s frustrating to see these after a book is published when it can’t be changed.
      It would be very satisfying to be able to find errors and be able to correct them before it’s too late to change. It’s almost like being a literary detective.

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  10. I don't think I could be a food service worker. The stress and the drug use in the back of the house would be painful to watch. I am like Dru, I cant work in a sub sub sub basement. Not having any natural light is not easy for me. When I was much younger I did shelve books in the sub sub basement at the library. I was frightened all the time thinking of earthquakes, or just losing power. Years later, still a wimp in tight places.. So cave researcher is out as well.

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    1. I’d hate no windows too! And definitely no caves especially if they had bats in them

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  11. Jay, as usual, you cracked me up.

    Being a waitress at a diner when I was in high school gave me all the impetus I needed to aim higher. What a hard job. Talk about the need to control eyerolls! People are crazy.

    I worked as a cold caller for an employment agency for less than a week. We were calling doctors' and dentists' offices, and I ended up being on the phone with a dentist for nearly an hour, shooting the breeze. We later met, he became my dentist, and we even dated briefly. I just had lunch with the woman he lived with for 15 years, who has been a good friend for more than four decades, so that worked out well. The best part about that job is that it prepared me for the 100 cold calls I later had to make each week for the nine years I sold insurance. Like Edith, I cannot even make political calls now, that experience soured me so.

    Worst possible job for me: caring for burn patients. I would not be able to quit sobbing.

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    1. And Rhys, while I enjoy cooking for a crowd, a full English--PLUS pancakes? WAY too many balls in the air at once for one person!

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    2. Or pediatric cancer ward!

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    3. Absolutely. The two kindest women I've ever known were both doctors, and both pediatric oncologists. I tear up just thinking about their work lives.

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  12. Awful job - anywhere where you have to be nice to people all the time. No patience for that foolishness – what you see is what you get and it does not include being nice or smarmy.
    However, I did work in retail – a garden center. I was told off several times for telling customers ”don’t buy that here, it is cheaper in this store, or we don’t carry it, but you can get it here. (we were supposed to sell them a substitute, not redirect them.) Or my personal favourite, “nope don’t waste your money on that, do this instead (vinegar and soap) – see cheap”. I admit that people who irritated me were quite likely to get “You want a crab-apple tree? You live where? Oh yes, lovely place, right on the ocean, lots of east wind, and salt spray (tree will not survive). Good idea. See you next spring… (Person should have bought a hosta – tree is going to die. I don’t like you as a customer anyway…)
    As for you authors going out to be nice to readers – that would never be me! I would however, like some of that English Breakfast, and hope those of you in the line of Beryl are all right today.

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    1. Going out as an author is lovely, Margo. To meet people you have made happy is a blessing

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    2. Rhys, I'm with Margo. Are you an extrovert? As an introvert, I basically don't like people and it is very draining to be around a lot of folks I don't know. It seems that as an author on a book tour, you're always "on" and that would make me a most unpleasant person to be around when I got back to my hotel room. -- Victoria

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  13. What a great topic! I love the advice from Rhys that everyone should have to work a nightmare job at least once to develop some empathy for the people who actually have to do that for a living. I'd never thought about it before, but my nightmare job might be working as the short order cook. I image myself struggling to balance all the orders in a hot kitchen, burning food, and sending things out undercooked--at least, until the servers and customers band together to get me fired!

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  14. From Diana: Oh dear. Nightmare job is any job where I would have to talk on the phone. Contrary to Mr. Bell’s claims, the phone is NOT a friend to deaf people.

    At University, my philanthropy ? Club was doing a fundraiser at a pub that served a variety of food. However because the pub let us borrow the place for one evening to raise funds, we had a limited menu - salad, spaghetti and ? Soda ? Many students who came to dinner there asked for different things and many were hard to lupread. I could guess they wanted something else other than what we were serving. I decided right then that I would Never ever be a waitress. I know how difficult their job can be. Now I can laugh about it.

    Rhys, I wonder if a short order cook has to multi task ?

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    1. Definitely. I’ve watched in Denny’s as they cook all those things at the same time

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  15. Trust me, even your dream job can become a nightmare job depending on the people you work with and for.

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    1. Brenda, so true. And not-so-fun jobs can be made better with good colleagues. — Pat S

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  16. At 9-1-1, we found that people with backgrounds in restaurant work and bartenders were frequently successful at completing our rigorous training. They were used to juggling a whole bunch of tasks at the same time and working quickly. I never worked in a restaurant, but I have washed lots of dishes in commercial dishwashers, mostly as a volunteer. I don't mind being around little ones--I volunteered in a day care and then worked part time there after retirement. I always came home exhausted. Health care is my nightmare. I am very squeamish around illness, and being responsible for someone's healing sounds terrible to me.

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    1. Gillian, you would have to be calm and cool-headed to be good at a 9-1-1 call job. Major props for doing that job!

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    2. I thought about doing 9-1-1 dispatch but I feared it would be too emotional.

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  17. I think I would have liked being a therapist as I am interested in others' stories and lives. I did something similar as a resource specialist in middle school and enjoyed it much more than actually teaching. My first job was for a building developer as a sect'y. At first, I could barely type but over the years the staff (a women off.mgr, and the two males owners & one VP) became my role models, teachers and we were like family.

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  18. Most of my life I was, what I call a paper pusher. I am excellent at organization and so keeping offices running smoothly came naturally to me. I had an opportunity for a promotion that would take me to Louisiana and at times out on oil rigs. Well, part of the application process was to take a test showing you could escape from a situation underwater. That was a deal breaker for me. I realized anything working underwater was a nonstarter. I had a terrible experience as a young girl when I was floundering in a pool and no one noticed. Once I finally got to the surface, I have had an unreasonable fear of getting my face underwater. I was so miffed that I couldn't apply for that job because I was certain I would drown from the sheer terror of being alone underwater, much less figuring out how to get out of the bindings and back to the surface.

    I suspect space would have the same impact on me so being an astronaut is out. Ditto for short order cook or working in any professional kitchen. I worked at Sears as a part-time salesperson who floated between departments. That was fun because of the variety - one day mixing paint, the next selling hosiery (yeah, it was a few decades ago when everyone work hose - garters and all), the next selling greeting cards. I think it would make me nuts to be in real estate or car sales. I'm too honest and just can't sell what I don't believe in. Basically, I am a great paper pusher and mediator. Even ended up being a pseudo counselor for the professors when I worked in the Social Work department at a university. Could never be a firefighter or police officer although behind the scenes work for FBI or CIA fascinates me. I love research and problem solving, I just don't like people. Really limits career choices. -- Victoria

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  19. Professional hermit?

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    1. Rhys, that would be perfect! I could be a hermit with no trouble at all. -- Victoria

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  20. I've had many 'worst' jobs over the years. Like Cora, I hate being closed in with no view of the outside world--seems like most factories are like that. But I completely understand the camaraderie of workers--in my first factory job, I worked with 3 other women as a team--it made the job bearable and they were great people! I lasted as a motel maid about 1 week. I'm terrible with customer service because my face is a dead giveaway as to what I'm actually thinking/feeling (the exception being the library--where I--mostly--enjoy our patrons). One of the reasons I retired from archaeology was because I can no longer tolerate temperature extremes--or being on my feet all day--and the alternative to being able to do fieldwork (and research) was management (yuck!!).

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  21. I worked as a car hop at a root beer stand. (A couple of things that no longer exist!) Ioutside, next to a sweltering parking lot, waiting to for our turn to be perky whenever a car would pull in.

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  22. I'll pass on teaching. I was a daycare/preschool teacher for a few years. I liked most of the kids but not the adults. I wouldn't want to do any sales, I couldn't even sell Girl Scout cookies. And standing for extended periods of time is not a good fit anymore. When I left high school I was thinking I wanted to be park ranger. I didn't want to be in a cubicle. I never made it to ranger or an outdoor all the time job. With the exception of preschool/daycare teacher, I've worked in offices. Oh, keep me out of the garment industry. I worked for an outdoor garment company for about year. The VP said I wasn't aggressive enough with the outside vendors.

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  23. [I hit publish too soon on my above comment. Yikes.] If you haven’t spent a summer standing outside in the heat and humidity, then delivered heavily-laden trays to drivers who never seemed to put their windows up quite far enough to hold them, all while remaining cheerful as root beer dripped off your elbows……… well, anyway, that was my nightmare job. The root beer stand. I still shudder. We had to rinse the stuff off the dime tips we were left.

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    1. Melinda, there should be a separate metric: the divide between how awful the job is, versus the pleasure experienced by those you're working for/serving. I adored going to the root beer stand when I was a child!

      In a similar vein, my oldest's first job was selling ice cream comes and sticks at the local amusement park. Sounds delightful until you realize she was standing on hot concrete for the entire shift - and she was responsible for cleaning up after the kids who gobbled their ice cream too fast after coming off the Tipsy Teacup ride...

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  24. Luckily, I've had great jobs. I love being a waitress when I was in college, but I've had friends tell me it's their worst nightmare. I'm very organized, so any job that requires organization is fine by me. I like to drive (sorry, Hank), and I would be a good accountant--I actually set up an accounting system for a business I worked for in high school. I was appalled to find that they just sort of threw the checks on a table and deposited them every now and then, and hardly had any records. What I wouldn't do is be a hairdresser. I find touching people's hair to be creepy. And I couldn't do anything that required being high up--window-washer, skyscraper construction? Nope. I also think sometimes that instead of being a writer I should have done just about anything else--cleaning toilets? Fine. Plucking chickens? Okay. Mucking out horse stalls? Maybe. But I'm only thinking that because I'm 60,000 words into writing a novel that seems boring and stupid. Anybody need a good waitress?

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    1. Thanks for the smile, Terry. This snippet shows writing IS the job for you! Elisabeth

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    2. I hope so 'cause that's all I've got.

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    3. Keep writing, Terry - your audience awaits!

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    4. LOL Terry, I know that feeling all too well!

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  25. Waiting tables. I lasted two weeks. On the plus side, I got some fabulous insight in humanity and a couple of good stories.

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    1. I actually enjoyed waiting tables, Kait. I'm an extrovert and for whatever reason I got great satisfaction in giving diners the kind of service I'd want. It also left me with a lifetime habit of making my table order clockwise, because that's the way I learned to keep track of who was getting which meal!

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  26. I'm laughing and wincing at all the jobs. So many I not only would hate, but would be bad at! A few I've even done while in college. As I've said before, thank heavens I can write - it's about the only thing i can do!

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  27. I worked in a fast food restaurant as a teen and while I enjoyed working with the customers and cooking, my manager and supervisor were male chauvinists and the owner’s 10 yo kid was always ordering us around so that was a pain I don’t like to be in charge of a project as I lack organizing skills and I don’t like trying to get volunteers or raise money so a charity event is a nightmare for me. I enjoyed working Peds and Adult ICU but being a floor nurse was not high on my list.

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    1. Laurie, I've read something more than once: "People don;t quit jobs, they quit managers." Sounds like that was true for you!

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  28. Don’t like making personal telephone calls so would certainly not want to do it as a job. Don’t like to work with numbers.
    Would not like a job requiring driving, too many other people on the road who shouldn’t be there plus the potential for road rage.
    I wouldn’t want to work in a hospice, not for lack of compassion but it would be too difficult emotionally.
    Even though I am somewhat of an introvert, I do enjoy interacting with people.
    In the context of my work, I often have to show people how to do something and I find it rewarding when I am able to reassure someone that they have the ability to do something they didn’t think they would be able to learn.

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    1. Anon, I've long thought one of the silver linings of the pandemic shut-down was that those who COULD work at home, did, leaving the roads free for those who had to be in person. I'm 100% behind the WFH movement for that alone!

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  29. I worked an assembly line temp job during my college years. I lasted one day (it was when LCD watches had first come out and I had to use tweezer-like implements to make sure every button on the watch worked) and vowed never again. I have worked mind numbing jobs but if I am working with friends, can get through it. Yes, I wouldn’t want to work with sick children or in hospice. The people who do are saints. — Pat S

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  30. Sales. Definitely sales. I was terrible at door to door sales. Campfire Girl candy, Girl Scout cookies, magazines for high school drill team, you name it. Awful.

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  31. I did sales in college - I worked at a pool store. But that wasn't cold sales. People were interested. Any job with cold sales? No. Numbers? No, thanks. And definitely nothing out in the heat.

    I taught 13-year-olds in CCD. Nope. Glad teaching didn't work out for me. I've worked cubicle jobs before, early in my tech writing career. It was fine, but I much prefer working at home.

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  32. One summer I worked in downtown Los Angeles at BULLOCKS department store - women's dresses. I loved it! Helping people fine the perfect dress for whatever they were looking for. Imagine a whole department devoted to dresses?!

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    1. And Bullock's was pretty high end, at least for our family. How fun to outfit people who could afford the clothes they wanted.

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    2. Hank Phillippi RyanJuly 9, 2024 at 8:47 AM

      Oh, yes, I have worked in retail too, and I absolutely adored it! I was 16 and I worked in the… Wait for it… Millinery department! Yes! I helped people choose just the right hat. There’s a job you don’t hear much about anymore…

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  33. Waiting tables would be a nightmare job for me. I'm too clumsy and forgetful, and I hate hearing people being rude to waiting staff and/or treating them badly. One summer when my son was waiting tables at Cheddar's, a friend and I went to eat and made sure we got in his section. We were behind two other ladies he was waiting on, and he was so nice and helpful to them. While he was in the back, the ladies left and put two dollars on the table as a tip. I was not happy that they were so cheap when he was so nice. Before he came back out front, I got up and put a five dollar bill on the table, too.. I myself tip well and I hate seeing a cheap tipper. Just one of the many irritations waiting tables would have for me.

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    1. I had a friend who was a waiter for one day. She never, ever left less than 30% after that. She had big jobs, with lots of staff under her and still said that one day was the hardest she ever did. Here's a story: I was waiting tables for a summer job and had a nightmare table of eight. Nothing suited them. I kept trying everything to appease them, but nothing doing. Finally they asked for the manager. He was not known for his diplomacy but somehow pulled it out in spades and said he was comping the whole meal. They were embarrassed and left money to cover the check. I told the manager and he said, "Oh, no, that's your tip."

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    2. If we have a coupon, or are comped any part of a meal, we generally still tip on however much the check would have been.

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    3. Interestingly, while waitressing and bartending, I noticed that women are much worse tippers than men.

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  34. I waited tables (years ago) on an outdoor patio of a lovely German restaurant. However, the only patron I served was my loving father and whomever he dragged to eat with him because July in Minnesota was either too buggy, too muggy, too hot, or too rainy. Dad always left a huge tip, helping me pay my way through college.

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