HANK PHILLIPPI RYAN: Maria V. Snyder is so hilarious—she always says she’s: “the most famous person you have never heard of.”
Is she right? She’s a New York Times bestselling author of 23 fantasy and science fiction novels, and two short story collections.
You’d THINK you’d know of her right? (And knowing you brilliant Reds and Readers, I bet some of you do.)
But in book world, we always talk about timing. There’s a time for everything, and sometimes there’s a wrong time, and there’s also the perfect time.
Because about 24 years ago, Maria started writing “romantasy.”
Look at the Times Bestseller list now—FULL or romantasy. (And our amazing Jenn is right in the midst of that irresistible genre field.)
Every genre has its history and its journey—and Maria Snyder is certainly part of ramantasy’s origin story.
THE JOURNEY TO ROMANTASY
First off - thank you so much for inviting me to write a blog for you! I’m truly honored.
I started writing back in the mid 1990s when my job as an environmental meteorologist failed to satisfy my creative side. I wrote a bunch of cheesy science fiction short stories that weren’t published. (Astonishing! I know!)
Then, I started writing my first fantasy novel, Poison Study because, at the time, the fantasy genre was dominated by male authors, with male main protagonists.
Female characters were always side characters and many were in need of being rescued.
Fantasy stories were also very traditional, following the fantasy conventions set by Tolkien. I wrote Poison Study because I was so tired of reading those novels. I wrote a book I wanted to read!
I had a difficult time finding an agent, and, after 40 rejections, I sent the manuscript to publishers. The rejections rolled in. The traditional fantasy publishers at the time: TOR, DAW, BEAN, ROC, Del Ray, etc. passed on it (17 in total!). I was told there was not enough political intrigue, not enough setting details, not enough authentic language for a medieval fantasy (I never said it was set in medieval Europe), too much romance.
Running out of publishers, I almost put the story in the proverbial trunk, when I learned Harlequin started a new imprint called LUNA Books. They were actively seeking fantasy stories with strong female protagonists and romantic subplots. Poison Study fit right in and was accepted in 2003. Poison Study was released October 2005 (the same month/year as Twilight).
LUNA Books was the original publisher of what is known today as Romantasy (a portmanteau of romance and fantasy genres).
Unfortunately, they were about 15 years ahead if its time.
After two years of publishing Romantasy titles, LUNA pivoted to publishing only Urban Fantasy titles, which was the hot new trend. LUNA held on for a few more years, but eventually went to imprint heaven.
Fortunately for me, Harlequin moved my titles to their MIRA Books imprint and continued to publish my titles. Until the Dark Lord…er…HarperCollins bought Harlequin and I was dropped. Yes, lots of tears, but I’m extremely lucky that I have a group of loyal and supportive readers who have followed me on my independent publishing journey.
Fast forward to 2024 where Romantasy is the hot new trend. Goodreads has added a new Best Romantasy category to its yearly Choice Awards. Authors like Jennifer L. Armentrout, Sarah J. Maas, Travis Baldree, Scarlet St. Clair, and Rebecca Yarros are hitting the bestsellers’ list with their new Romantasy releases.
Why is it so popular? Remember when I said Poison Study came out the same time as Twilight? Well, those avid readers of Young Adult books have grown up. They still love romance with fantasy, but they are adults now and want books with more adult themes and spicier sex scenes.
The beauty of Romantasy is there’s a wide gamut of stories and fantasy characters with all levels of spice. There are no limits. No one is saying you can’t write a reverse harem because of old fashioned genre conventions.
As one of the older Romantasy titles, Poison Study (and its sequels Magic Study and Fire Study) is having a resurgence. Two book box companies, FairyLoot and The Bookish Box, have published limited special editions with pretty sprayed edges. MIRA Books has updated the cover art for my first three titles so it matches the Romantasy trend. The audiobooks were rerecorded and released for world wide distribution. Plus they are actively promoting my books. Yay!
Will Romantasy’s popularity peak? Will another hot new trend come along to dominate the market? Of course! Like everything in publishing, it’s cyclical. However, in this era of independently published authors, there will always be a wide variety of books for readers to discover!
Thanks again for inviting me! See you in another 20 years! 😉
HANK: Isn’t this fascinating? What do you think, Reds and Readers? Are you part of the romantasy wave? (or—is it more than a wave?)
This is a new genre for me . . . thanks, Maria, for the wonderful introduction to romantasy . . . .
ReplyDeleteYes. and it is really taking the publishing world by storm!
DeleteYou're welcome Joan! Let me know if you'd like some recommendations. :D
DeleteWe would LOVE some!
DeleteHank, I posted a comment below with a bunch!
DeleteRather new to me, too, although not unheard of. It sounds like you're great at keeping up with the trends, Maria. Plus, I know you're happy to get the older books republished and featured.
ReplyDeleteYes, such a perplexing thing to be so far ahead of your time...
DeleteI teach writing popular fiction for Seton Hill University's MFA program so I need to keep on top of what's going on in publishing for my students!
DeleteVery interesting. Thanks for sharing your days as a literary pioneer. I still haven't broken out of mysteries, but I suspect I would enjoy these.
ReplyDeleteThe NYT bestseller list certainly shows the appeal...
DeleteYou're welcome Mark! Many fantasy and romantasy books include mystery plots. Someone is always up to no good. :) Let me know if you'd like some recommendations.
DeleteThanks for opening our eyes to another genre!
ReplyDeleteYes, it is SO popular in book world...
DeleteYou're welcome Becky!
DeleteI had heard of the genre only from Jenn here on the blog, although I'm not sure she used that term. It makes sense that the now-adult Twilight readers want more of the same but different. Congratulations on starting the trend early, Maria, and on having your backlist reissued and supported!
ReplyDeleteYes, the bring-back-the-backlist must be so gratifying!
DeleteThank you Edith! I am thrilled my backlist books are having a moment. :D
DeleteMARIA: Thanks for sharing your writing journey with us at JRW. I know it is challenging to be a pioneer in any field. Hooray for your perseverance and for now being part of a huge romantasy trend. If Goodreads added this genre as a category, I think it's here to stay.
ReplyDeleteAnd before talking to Maria, I would have said "it all happened so quickly"--but seems as if it didn't.
DeleteThanks Grace! That's a good point about Goodreads.
DeleteMaria, welcome to the Reds! I'm so impressed with both your persistence and your acceptance of this zany publishing business. Congratulations and hope your sales and success continue!
ReplyDeleteZany. You are SO right!
DeleteThanks for hosting me Lucy! We all know persistence is key in this business. And how perfect is the word: zany!
DeleteMaria, I love how you decided to write what you wanted to read. A Baby Boomer, I have never minded a good rescue. No, truthfully, I love a good rescue! But I am just as happy to rescue the guys as the gals.
ReplyDeleteAlready a romance reader (thanks Jenn McKinlay), I know about Romantasy. I have a few in my TBR pile and have listened to a couple, too. Although your publishing journey sounds rough, I believe in happy endings. It is very satisfying to know that your stories have found a new home.
Please tell us a little more about your most recent book.
Yes, happy endings! And Maria will be here soon!
DeleteSorry for the delay! I'm not a morning person and do all my writing late at night. I do love a good rescue as well and make sure they both rescue each other equally. :) My recent books are companion novels to Poison Study and Magic Study. Titled The Study of Poisons and The Study of Magic - they are the story from Valek's POV. He is the main male character in my Study Series of books. My readers have been begging for them for years and they are very popular. It was surprising to me that his books wasn't just a rehash of the events in Poison Study, but an entirely new book on its own! A fun and rewarding challenge.
DeleteI had never heard of this genre. Congratulations on being a trailblazer -- and a successful one.
ReplyDeleteThat's what we're here for! To let you know the latest!
DeleteThat's one of the many things I appreciate about this blog. I really have learned a lot since I started following it.
DeleteAAww...that is wonderful to hear! x
DeleteThank you Elizabeth!!
DeleteI know Maria from Pennwriters. I've never heard of romantasy, but I'm so happy you're able to re-release the older books to a new market!
ReplyDeleteYes, that's where I met her, maybe...10 years ago? ANd then we chatted this Pennwriters again. SO great!
DeleteHi Liz! Pennwriters is a wonderful organization for writing professionals. I love all the connections I've made through the org. And I must admit, I fangirled for a moment when Hank remembered me! :)
DeleteRomantasy is a new word for me, but I think there are books I have enjoyed that seem to fit the description. Wouldn't Deborah Harkness's Discovery of Witches series fit in here? And some Neil Gaiman titles? Maybe even TJ Klune? Or have I missed something essential to the definition?
ReplyDeleteI admire the fact that you wrote what you were inspired to write, even before it had a well-defined place on the shelf. We readers always benefit when writers do that!
Oh, great question...what do you think, Maria?
DeleteHi Susan! Yes, those titles would definitely fit. That's the beauty of romantasy - there is a wide range of titles. The romance and fantasy elements don't have to be spilt 50-50 - as long as there is some of each, it's romantasy!
DeleteFrom Diana: Romantasy may be a new word, though I think these books always existed to some degree. I read the Deborah Harkness novels about a PhD candidate who time travels if her Diana Bishop and the vampire books are romantasy?
ReplyDeleteMaria, I am impressed that you were an environment meteorologist. I am sure you are smart in science! We are learning more about climate change these days.
If I may ask, when you mentioned your search for a ? Literary ? Agent, my train of thought led me to this question about your Editor. My question is about the Editor.
Did your editor have a different value system from your value system and if that happened, then how did you deal with that attitude? I asked because a friend, who published her memoir, mentioned that she paid for editors to look at her manuscript before publication. These editors often wrote “tragic” and my friend did Not see her situation as tragic at all!
WOw, Diana, that is a powerful question, and truly revealing.
DeleteDiana - yes, these books have existed for the last 20 years. Only recently have they've gotten their own sub-genre. As for your question, the editor I hired for my independently published books is and was very familiar with my books and my values, which is why I hired them. Many freelance editors will do a sample edit for customers so you can see if their the right person for you.
DeleteFrom Diana: Hank and Maria, thank you. I thought it was something like 20 years and sub genres are recent, since I learned a new to me word - Romantasy. And thanks for the tip regarding editors.
DeleteWelcome to JRW!
ReplyDeleteI haven’t heard of romantasy. I’ve done some reading in fantasy, and I do plan to look into it!
I wish you the best!
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We want a full report!
DeleteThanks DebRo! Let me know if you need any recommendations!
DeleteA good read. I'll have to expand my to-do book list to include this genre.
ReplyDeleteYes, we will all have to explore!
DeleteDefinitely worth the time to investigate. :)
DeleteClearly this is a "wave" I need to catch up with. I've always been a big fantasy fan. (Maria, we're delighted to have you on Jungle Red)
ReplyDeleteYes, somehow I have avoided the big bestselling romantasies....I wonder which one we should all start with?
DeleteThanks Hallie! There are a ton of great titles out there!
DeleteAND THE WINNER OF YESTERDAYS PRIZE IS: KATE MICHAELSON! Email me your address at hryan at whdh dot com! xxx
ReplyDeleteFascinating. I have never heard of Romantasy. Sounds intriguing.
ReplyDeleteIt is! What I love the most is the freedom to go beyond the tropes and conventions.
DeleteI'm delighted to "meet" you, Maria! Somehow I missed you but I'm ordering your series right now!!!
ReplyDeleteI've been reading romantasy forever. Kressley Cole was huge 10 years ago - not sure what happened to her - but she, too, was one of the first. I can't think of any others right now, but I'm hoping the trend lasts awhile - it's the escapism I need!
Thanks Jenn! Nice to "meet" you as well. Also thanks for the support! Yes, there were a number of authors writing romantasy in the disguise of Urban Fantasy and Paranormal Romance.
DeleteI've just heard the term "romantasy" recently and, thanks to a younger friend, have read a few titles of the genre. I really liked what I read! I'm sure I've read that genre in the way back but it wasn't titled as such. Men rescuing women. Women rescuing men. I'm all for it!
ReplyDeleteAn equal opportunity genre!! Love it! Yes, they've been hiding in other genres like Urban Fantasy and Paranormal Romance.
DeleteI've always loved fantasies with a strong romantic element, and in fact, I have Maria's first three books in the Ixia series (POISON STUDY, MAGIC STUDY and FIRE STUDY) in their original print versions! (Maria, the rebranded covers look fantastic!)
ReplyDeleteI would love to read a study on the rise and fall of subgenres: why they become overwhelmingly popular and why they fall off the radar? For years and years urban fantasy was all the rage, and although well-beloved writers like Patricia Briggs are still going strong, it's not highlighted by publishers - and I suspect anyone coming to their agent with an urban fantasy proposal will have an uphill climb.
Horror, sweeping historical family sagas, sex and shopping, private eyes; these are all genres I've seen go from explosively popular to niche (and back again - horror seems to be on the rise.) Why? And what's the point where one very different novel (GONE GIRL, NEUROMANCER, the first Anita Blake book) will somehow break through and make readers yearn for the new?
Hello Julia! Thanks for being a long time supporter. :) Trends are cyclical - publishers are always searching for something unique but still familiar. They don't know the magic formula on what's going to hit. Fourth Wing by Rebecca Yarros surprised everyone. When one genre seems to have ran its course, another leaps to the limelight. However, these days those genres don't completely disappear. There are plenty of indie authors who are still writing in those genres for readers to find. The problem is finding them among the masses and AI generated books. :(
DeleteI never heard the word "Romantasy," but I know I love the genre. For me, I think it started with Robin McKinley's THE BLUE SWORD (a YA book that I love and still re-read) and a number of McKinley's other books, including her vampire novel SUNSHINE. Others that would fall into the category for me: Leigh Bardugo's THE FAMILIAR, Naomi Novik's Scholomance trilogy, Holly Black's THE CRUEL PRINCE and its sequels. I've enjoyed all of these a lot. Now I can try POISON STUDY, Maria! I'm so glad to have the tip.
ReplyDeleteYes, the genre has been lurking for years. I LOVE Naomi's Scholomance series!! Thanks for trying out my book. I hope you enjoy it!
DeleteFor those interested in reading more about Romantasy, I wrote an article for writers that you can find here: https://careerauthors.com/six-things-you-need-to-know-about-writing-romantasy/
ReplyDeleteOh, perfect--love this!
DeleteHank has requested some recommendations. The thing with Romantasy is there are many levels of spice and fantasy elements. Rhonda, with a book blog has a broken it down into six categories and has some great recommendations. https://rhondablogsaboutbooks.wordpress.com/2023/07/18/the-six-at-least-degrees-of-romantasy-infographic/
ReplyDeleteMy personal recommendations lean toward fantasy with romantic subplots:
Promise of Fire, by Amanda Bouchet
Spellbreaker and Keeper of Enchanted Rooms, by Charlie N. Holmberg (clean romantasy)
On the Edge, by Ilona Andrews
Wickedly Dangerous, by Deborah Blake
Legends and Lattes and Bookshops and Bonedust, by Travis Baldree
The House on the Cerulean Sea, by T.L. Klune
Thank you! Who else has recommendations?
DeleteFinally a book I’ve read. I loved the Hpuse on the Cerulean Sea
DeleteRhys - the sequel is coming out this fall!!
DeleteMaria, I agree with all of those and would add Chloe Neill's Chicagoland Vampires and Heirs of Chicagoland series.
ReplyDeleteThis is SO new to me--thank you!
DeleteOooh thanks for the recommendations! I'll put Chloe Neill on my TBR list.
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