HANK PHILLIPPI RYAN: Oh, I think about this EVERY time I read a book.
Do you?
First:
We are so honored to host the amazing Zoje Stage today! I met her at a convention some years ago when her first book came out-–the super creepy (in an amazing way) BABY TEETH. In real life, Zoje is wonderful and charming and brilliant, and not one bit creepy. But whoa, her books are.
And she continues to have wild success. See below for more about her brand new DEAR HANNA.
And all of us here at Jungle Red, you Reds and readers, have one massive thing in common with Zoje.
We read.
But HOW do we read?
Zoje has some tantalizing thoughts.
Reading As a Writer
by Zoje Stage
Recently I was having lunch with a friend and he started telling me, in an animated voice, about a movie he'd watched a few days earlier. As a devotee of DVDs and VHS tapes, he has access to more obscure films than what's available on streaming, and the one that had sparked his interest was made in the 1960s. When he was about two thirds of the way into describing the film's plot, I couldn't help but jump in and tell him the rest of the story.
He knew I hadn't seen the movie. And he stared at me in shock and asked, "How did you know that?"
How did I know that? My friend has a talent for remembering the films he watches in quite a bit of detail (unlike me, who forgets everything I watch or read within forty-eight hours), so that helped me see the story in my head. And then I just knew—because there was only one logical direction for the story to take. Well, one logical direction if I guessed correctly about the film being reminiscent of an old Twilight Zone episode. And I was right.
I found myself explaining, as we finished our lunch, that as a storyteller I seem to intuitively look for a narrative's "direction." For better or worse, it's quite easy for me to spot this in genre stories, where a certain logic prevails for each kind of genre. Much of what I read are thrillers or horror, and though I'm really not an analytical person I do often find myself taking guesses about what will happen next, and even questioning some of the writer's decisions if they strike me as illogical (and no, I swear I'm not related to Mr. Spock).
Is it unfair to scrutinize a book as I read it? I didn't do this before becoming a published author, and now I periodically ask myself: Do I enjoy novels less now, as I'm so much more aware of the storytelling mechanics?
I'm happy to say the answer to that is no, even as I am more conscious of a novel's various elements. It does seem, though, that I've developed something of a "grading system":
1) If I'm too right about the direction of a book's plot—so right that nothing completely unexpected happens—it limits my overall satisfaction with the book, even if I enjoyed its beautiful writing.
2) A very happy scenario is when I correctly guess some aspects of how the novel will unfold, yet experience some surprising turns along the way. This makes me feel like a competent sleuth, while letting me marvel at the author's creative skill.
3) And I have two sub-categories for stories that are so unpredictable that they take their own narrative path:
a) Let's be real, some of those stories are a mess, bucking conventions that work, or lacking a strong throughline or enough intriguing elements.
b) Other times this approach can produce work of stunning genius, where everything is a surprise, yet logical within its own world. These are the kinds of stories that can make you gasp—or make you doubt your own authorial abilities (or wonder what sort of drugs the writer is taking). But in their magical unexpectedness, they are a gift.
I read novels that fall into all of these groups, and enjoy many of them. As a reader—with a writer's mind—the only thing that truly disappoints me is improbable (or lazy) setups, as they temper the effectiveness of everything that follows. But there's no question that I root for every book I pick up to be the best thing I've ever read.
HANK: SO agree! I am so hoping that every book is fabulous. And I love guessing SOME of the plot, but not all of it. ANd I am annoyed by out-of-the-blue twists.
How about you, Reds and Readers? If you write, do you, like Zoje, enjoy novels less now, as you are so much more aware of the storytelling mechanics? If you read, does understanding story mechanics make you read differently?
Zoje Stage’s newest novel, DEAR HANNA is currently number 6 in Horror/Suspense on Amazon!
Her debut novel, Baby Teeth, was a USA Today and international bestseller and was nominated for a Bram Stoker Award. Her second “mind-bending” (New York Times) novel, Wonderland, was one of Book Riot’s Best Horror Books of 2020. Getaway, a “stunning…third triumph” (Booklist, starred review), was named by LitReactor as one of the Best Books of 2021. Her following “utterly arrowing…masterful” (Criminal Element), is Mothered.
She lives in Pittsburgh with her cats. For more information visit https://zojestage.blogspot.com/. Amazon, Bookshop,org, Barnes & Noble.
DEAR HANNA
Zoje Stage delivers another knockout with a blood-chilling follow-up to international sensation Baby Teeth, taking readers back into the unsteady world of a young sociopath who’s all grown up.
Hanna is no stranger to dark thoughts: as a young child, she tried to murder her own mother. But that was more than sixteen years ago. And extensive therapy—and writing letters to her younger brother—has since curbed those nasty tendencies.
Now twenty-four, Hanna is living an outwardly normal life of domestic content. Married to real estate agent Jacob, she’s also stepmother to his teenage daughter Joelle. They live in a beautiful home, and Hanna loves her career as a phlebotomist—a job perfectly suited to her occasional need to hurt people.
But when Joelle begins to change in ways that don’t suit Hanna’s purposes, her carefully planned existence threatens to come apart. With life slipping out of her control, Hanna reverts to old habits, determined to manipulate the events and people around her. And the only thing worse than a baby sociopath is a fully grown one.
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This is so interesting, Zoje, as I'd never thought about it before. Knowing the storytelling mechanics doesn't seem to change the way I read; however, I like being surprised, so stories that are too predictable are a bit disappointing.
ReplyDeleteCongratulations on your new book, Zoje . . . .
Congrats on the new release!
ReplyDeleteI feel like I read with more analysis than a typical reader, but I'm sure I don't read quite as analytically as writers do. There are times I am thrilled if I've guessed the ending before we get there. Usually, that's if I felt I picked up on a subtle clue. Other times, I feel like the author telegraphed stuff too early, and I'm disappointed to be right.
Most of the time, I talk myself into and out of all the suspects in the mysteries I read, so I'm not that accurate.
I have a similar story with a couple of late 90's classics. My roommate at the time went to the movie theater and came back raving "You'll never believe the twist." Both times, I guessed correctly. He was less than happy with me. I was just going with a logical yet surprising twist from what little I knew of the premise. (The movies were The Sixth Sense and Fight Club.)
The new book does sound creepy - congratulations!
ReplyDeleteReading as a writer doesn't make books less pleasant, but I find I have less patience with books that have sloppy storytelling or poor mechanics. I will put one into the giveaway pile sooner now. The flip side is that it's even more delightful to pick up a debut novel that gets it all right and is well done.
I'm not a writer but I do read & review a lot of ARCs so I do read with a more critical eye than a typical reader. I do suspend disbelief & accept common tropes. But poor storytelling is a no-go.
ReplyDeleteWelcome Zoje! Love this blog--I bet you'll find this crowd is quite sophisticated about storytelling and twists. Like you, I find a wonderful book that isn't distracting with errors to be an amazing joy!
ReplyDeleteI agree about books with errors. I find it particularly distracting when there are obvious factual errors in historical novels.
DeleteZoje, that is a very interesting way to approach reading. In spite of having been a literature major decades ago, it is only since coming to JRW, that I have really thought about how the sausage is made, so to speak.
ReplyDeleteMy husband and I are both retired and each of us reads a lot now. When we read the same books, we rarely appreciate them in the same way. Interestingly, he is the more critical, I am more forgiving. In mysteries, we both need the characters to be more important than the plot, especially if we will be seeing them again in a series. I am the one who is frequently handing him books. Most of the time, he doesn't like them as much as I do. What he is looking for is so different from what I want in stories. I have never handed him a cozy and he is really a tough nut when it comes to humor. Alas.
As for me, I think I have begun to think about where a story is headed when I read the first few pages. Recently, I have found the perpetrator long before the end, which I never used to do. But that matters much less to me than the language, the depth of the characters, and whether they are people I like well enough to care about what happens to them. I will DNF if there's no one to root for.
Very interesting ideas, Zoje! I recently read a book and I was sure about the direction it was taking. But that's not where it went and I was disappointed because, truly, my prediction made so much more sense, based on what we had learned. Instead the conclusion was ho-hum and illogical. So to answer the question, I do seem to read differently than I used to. Also I am constantly editing in my head, think of better words or a different way of saying things, than the author did. I wish I didn't do this, but I am unable to stop. On the other hand, I appreciate and savor words that the author got just right!
ReplyDeleteZoje, thank you for making me stop and think about how I read and what I look for from a writer. I don't think I've ever considered reading from that perspective. I do find I am exactly like Judi because I do edit, rewrite, reframe poor writing as I go along. It makes me wonder how the book reached print with so many missteps. But then I realize it might be perfect for someone less demanding who hasn't been reading for over half a century. A reminder that there is an audience for every writer and sometimes I'm just not that soul they're trying to reach. -- Victoria
ReplyDeleteI am racing to the airport...more to come! xooo
ReplyDeleteZoje, I confess I don't read horror--just can't--scares the bejeezus out of me! But I can appreciate when it's well written and the premise of your new book is a great twist--Hanna is one complex character and already I'm terrified for Joelle and at the same time, wondering who I should actually be rooting for! Unfortunately, can't read the book with my eyes closed (my method for 'watching' scary movies).
ReplyDeleteI do often read as a writer--for example, I just finished a book by one of my favorite authors. Read it in one sitting, it was so good! But, there was one niggling thread that I felt could have been stronger. The actual villain doesn't make an appearance until late in the book. I felt their presence should have been stronger earlier--not that we needed to know who they were or to see them, but to have a sense that something worse than the prime suspects was lurking deeper in the story.
ZOJE: Welcome to JRW and happy book birthday! I confess that I do not read horror.
ReplyDeleteSince I started Author Academy, I find myself looking at how the stories are set up in novels. As a Reader, I notice the feeling of deja vu sometimes when I would read several cozy mysteries with similar phrases or new words that appear at the same time as if a word became part of a current trend? I look inside the books to see if it is the same publisher and it is not always the same publisher.
Oh, your book blurb has me tingling. What a great premise, and logline.
ReplyDeleteI find reading as a writer gives me more cause for enjoyment. It's a strange, symbiotic, relationship where I'm on the look-out for what I see coming, and always marvel at the sheer talent of the author and how they pull it off.
Hi Joje: I am not a fan of horror but I really enjoyed reading about your story telling mechanics. How interesting!
ReplyDeleteI think the plot has to be believable but the characters have to be likeable as well. I've remember reading a classic British author and I figured out the killer on page 1. It was obviously a fluke but the main character getting out of a car (the witness being in the car) and "disappearing" into the London fog for just a brief moment triggered a thought that she might be invisible to the witness who vouched for her.
I agree entirely with Joje's scale: too predictable, satsifying genre experience and the third category of either genius or "what the heck?!?"
ReplyDeleteWhich makes the think how much I loathe the phrase "transcends genre." Genre simply means the meeting of natural story beats and reader's hopes and expectations. Trying to 'transcend' that usually means an unsatisfactory narrative arc or disappointed readers.
Yes! If something transcends genre then what is it? What is the word that means something that is not a genre? It is kinda oxymoronic maybe?
ReplyDeleteCongratulations on your latest!
ReplyDeleteI'm reading a historical novel and am really struggling with it. The author's research is solid, the setting meticulously drawn, but I feel nothing for the main character. I may stick with it for the historical aspects, but it will be a slog. I've published several historical short stories and know the perils of research drowning a compelling character.
I'm the worst person to watch a movie/show with, I am always predicting the edig and usually get it right. I am ecstatic when I get it wrong. Congrats on your release, Zoje! I adore creepy and the premise of Dear Hanna sounds fabulous. I'm in!
ReplyDeleteCongrats on your release, Zoje! And I am in complete agreement with your categories! And as I writer, I find it difficult to turn "the editor" off, but it doesn't keep me from enjoying reading.
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