Saturday, August 17, 2024

How're the revisions going? "Not great, Bob!"

JULIA SPENCER-FLEMING: Like Debs, I'm also recovering from surgery; in my case a knee replacement. Will this mean you'll see a lot of fiction in coming years featuring post-procedure protagonists? Probably not, as it's difficult to make someone who can't sit properly or drive the exciting center of a story unless you're Alfred Hitchcock

Fortunately, I handed in my first draft last month, so I'm feeling guilt-free and unencumbered. I told my editor and agent I didn't expect to be back to work until eight weeks after surgery, and while that seems to have been a pessimistic timeline, considering how well I'm doing, I'm still not able to sit at my laptop for more than an hour or get through the day without a nap, so I'm definitely not going to be knocking out revisions in the immediate future.

Which is fortunate because a few weeks after handing my ms in, my editor of many years, still dealing with a major cross-country move,  lost a close family member. Naturally, he's going to be sticking close to home and family for a while, thus a longer timeline for getting my revision letter. Life and death happen, and in an industry which depends largely on a chain of individuals all putting their stamp on a work, slow-ups happen.

Thus, my answer when asked when readers can expect to see AT MIDNIGHT COMES THE CRY: I don't know. Mt publisher won't schedule the print run until after I've turned in the revision. This isn't JUST because I'm notoriously late; the whole process of physically printing books for major publishing houses is a bit of a bottleneck these days. 

Publishers, you might be surprised to know, don't actually produce the object you buy in a bookstore - that thing with the attractive dust cover and paper pages you can riffle through. Those are created by book manufacturing companies, and over the last twenty years, the number of those companies has dwindled to three or five or seven, depending on what source you're reading. 

This aren't the smaller, more nimble printing presses that run off ten books per year at one thousand copies each - these are mammoth concerns rolling out tens of millions of printed books annually. Their various "runs" are more tightly scheduled than D-Day: SENSITIVE LITERARY DEBUT, with a print run of 35,000 fits in one day and time, while  A GAME OF MASSIVE FANTASY with an initial printing of 750,000 has another slot. They might be back to back for efficiency, or to save absolute quantities of paper, or to minimize ink usage.

Plus, they have to leave in some flexibility. In the publishing world, nothing is a sure thing, and if THE MODEST TALE OF AN ENGLISH SLEUTHETTE is unexpectedly featured on the Today Show and the original printing of 20,000 sells out overnight, you can bet the publisher is going to be screaming at the book manufacturer to get another 40,000 copies out STAT.

Which brings me back to AT MIDNIGHT COMES THE CRY. Once I have the revision letter, confer with my editor and agent, and work my way through the franken-manuscript, St. Martin's will be ready to add my novel to the queue of thousands. And the date will be well in advance of the time my editor says, "Okay, this is good." They need to leave time for copy edits, gallery prints, gallery edits and art and book design, the not-very-noticeable stuff that makes the book "feel right" when you read it: starting and spacing paragraphs, proper word breaks, avoiding widows and orphans, etc.

Thus the truism in the biz: it takes about the same time from conception to baby as it does from final draft to printed book.

 

69 comments:

  1. Glad to *see* you. Hope your knee recovery is progressing. Thanks for explaining the book production timeline. I'm so looking forward to getting your book in front of my eyes.

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  2. It sounds as if your recovering from surgery is going well, and that's good news. And while we know the book printing process takes time [wow, I certainly didn't know all that, though], I'm still REALLY looking forward to reading AT MIDNIGHT COMES THE CRY, no matter how long that whole publishing process takes . . . .

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  3. Cheering you on, my friend! Congrats on the superb knee progress!

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  4. I'm glad you are doing well! It was the amount of writing I got done during the recovery from my second knee surgery while on paid medical leave that pushed me to quit the day job. When it was time to go back into the office, I simply didn't want to.

    Ah, yes, the publishing industry and process. When I started out, I couldn't believe the lag time between when I turned in the manuscript and the scheduled pub date. Now, when I sign a three-book contract, I can envision how far into my seventies it will take me (pretty far). I join the others in saying that whenever your book is released, I'll be eager to read it.

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    1. And the lag time has gotten worse in many cases, since the consolidations and supply chain issues starting during the pandemic! Just another reason for me to get back on that one-book-a-year schedule...

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  5. Happy to hear you are recovering so well. I had both done and what I remember is that the first weeks seem interminable, possibly because I could never sleep ... and then the days gradually speed up and slide together and pretty soon your extension and flexion numbers start going down (extension) and up (flexion) and you don't suck in your breath sharply when you bump your toe gently on the car door while fumbling your way into the passenger seat to go to PT... I look forward to catching up with Clare and Russ and the gang whenever they appear! (Selden)

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    1. It is the sleeping issue that dogs me right now, Seldon - I never feel fully rested and I get very tired. I love hearing from vets of the procedure that things will be getting better week by week!

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  6. JULIA: Sending positive healing vibes and wishes for a continued speedy knee surgery recovery.

    No matter what, I will be patient and eager to read AT MIDNIGHT COMES THE CRY when it leaves the printing press and is sent into the world.

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  7. You make knee replacement look fashionable, Julia. I wish you increasing comfort and mobility every day.
    Like other commenters, I didn't know about the book manufacturers, but I did know that the release dates for many books have been pushed out several weeks or even months. I join the others in assuring you that I am waiting for your book and will be so glad to have it in my hands, or my Kindle.

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  8. All these joint replacement procedures are miraculous, aren't they? Used to be, once you hit a certain age, the "rheumatiz" would get you, and you'd slow down because of the aches and pains that had no real cure. A family member had an ankle replacement in May! Glad you're on the mend, Julia, and that you were able to clear the decks so you could recuperate with a clear conscience.

    Are books still printed in China? When I self-published my first, that was almost the only option. Whenever I read or hear about container ships, I think of books among the many goods ponderously making their way across the sea.

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    1. Karen, almost all the illustration-heavy books are printed in China; they still specialize in high-end, multi-color printing. There are a lot more small printing concerns available in the US for self-pubbed/indie authors - ironically, that part of the industry has expanded, while the plants serving the Big Five publishers have contracted!

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    2. Very interesting. I wonder if on--demand printing plays a part in that, too. Warehousing self-pubbed printed books is no picnic. On--demand would sure make life easier.

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  9. You look fantastic Julia--so proud of the way you prepared so you could bounce back! Meanwhile, I learned a lot today about the publishing world that I didn't know! Enjoy the down time so you can pounce on those revisions once they arrive... xox

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    1. As soon as I can figure out a way to properly site my laptop on one of the sofas I use for sitting, I'll be on my way!

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    2. Can you borrow a table like the adjustable hospital ones that go over the bed? Maybe you can find a hospital supply company that rents equipment.

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  10. Julia, you are looking so good! I'm thinking that all of that forced resting is good for you. Looking forward to getting your book in my hands - whenever it happens.

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    1. Thank you, Judi! Ironically, it feels as if my stress levels went down 100% once I had the surgery - I had done everything I could to prep for the next month +, leaving me with nothing to do my follow doctor's and PT's orders.

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  11. Wishing you a speedy recovery with your pups. All other things in good time.

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  12. Thanks for the glimpse into the process of publication. I hope your recovery continues without hiccups and you get your revisions done quickly.

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  13. Julia, wishing you continued good healing and recovery! My 11 years with W.W. Norton taught me a lot about the time it takes for a book to be produced. We started adding the estimated reprint numbers into our figures for print runs. I will wait patiently (no other choice) for “At. I’d ight Comes the Cry” and keep space on the bookshelf for it.

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    1. Suzette, my first book was an unexpected (minor) hit, and the hardcover sold out immediately while demand was still high. I remember my agent FREAKING OUT about getting those reprints onto the shelves. I think it took maybe 2-3 weeks, and I thought my career was going to be doomed because of the delay!

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  14. So glad you're recovering ahead of schedule. I see your nurse is on the job.

    As for the book, I don't care how long it takes, it's worth the wait and I'll be among the first to hit the preorder button.

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    1. Yes, my pups are very attentive, and we've sorted out where they can sit (on either side) abd where they can't (on the leg!)

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  15. Hank Phillippi RyanAugust 17, 2024 at 9:35 AM

    You do look very glam, Julia! And glad the timing is working out. And yes, even after the final final revisions, it’s still not final! There’s the changes that will come in copy editing, and then the changes that come from the cold reader, and then the changes that come in the proofreading version. And then they send you the final final final pages, during which you are not allowed to change anything at all except if it’s a mistake.
    I actually look forward to these revisions, because I am grateful for the fact that I can look at the book yet again. There’s always always something….
    Cannot wait for this, Julia!

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    1. Huh - I don't get the "cold reader" stage, or the final final final pages, although I am always cautioned to keep non-publisher error changes at a minimum in the proof pages stage.

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    2. Oh, so interesting. Yes, I love it, they send the book to a person who has not been involved in the process at all, just to see whether there’s anything that doesn’t makes sense, or if there’s anything that confuses someone who knows nothing about the book.

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    3. That's smart, Hank. I usually have one or two beta readers - friends who look the ms over and give me their 'cold read' notes.

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    4. Quietly raises their hand and promises to be good. ... beta volunteer

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  16. Glad you are making good progress with the knee rehab thanks to your prehab. It is good to have that space that you need to recover and heal between submitting your manuscript and receiving the revisions!
    Thanks for the insight into the book printing industry.

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    1. Brenda, prehab was the smartest thing I did to prep for surgery/recovery and I highly commend it to anyone facing joint replacement!

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  17. Julia, looking great! Whatever you're doing, keep at it! And I agree with Kait, that's one on-the-job nurse you've got there--so attentive! I can wait as long as it takes for the book--it's not like ice cream, it won't start melting as soon as you get it! I'll be able to savor every word, reread immediately because it was so good I need to enjoy it again! Put it on the shelf, pull it out while I wait for the next one, hint, hint.... :-) Flora

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    1. And that's the point of the revisions, Flora - to make sure all those words are, indeed, worth savoring!

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  18. Seeing as 2 out of 7 are recuperating, I see an Olympic style rating is in order. Debs can be in the back category, and Julia (along with my sister in the knee) you both are ahead in points. Although my sis is now up and walking a bit. // It was interesting to see how printing schedules have adapted over the last 25 years. I wonder if 'library binding' is still a thing? I am also wondering if a GoFundMe for the printing stage of a book would work. ~~ envision a refurbished press from a out of business newspaper. Let's locate it in a economically depressed area to get federal funding, lets hire and retrain unemployed workers. Now we advertise in every writer's market publication. I bet we could cut 18 months off the timeline for Midnight Comes the Cry. Anyone wanna fund this enterprise?

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    1. Coralee, that made me laugh out loud! great idea, although I suspect St. Martin's Press might have something to say about it. Glad to hear your sis is doing well - I'm also up and walking (with a walker or a cane) but I can't say it's comfortable, yet...

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    2. Sue was a High School Social Studies teacher. She is used to pain.

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  19. That's a great photo, Julia, and your nice red toenails show us that you're keeping your spirits up. Still, I can imagine how much you'd like this rehab business to be over! Your summing up of the production process was good for me to read; I thought it was MY publisher that was so slow!

    Like all of us above and any that come along below, I can't wait to read your book!

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    1. Thanks, Kim! Yes, getting my toenails done was a good pre-surgery decision. I knew I'd be seeing a lot of them in the coming weeks; why not have the sight lift my spirits?

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  20. JULIA: That is a great photo! I notice that you have a dog and the Rosamunde Pilcher novel. Love the RP series. I started reading her novels many years ago.

    Question: Where are the book manufacturing companies?

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    1. The remaining ones used by English language publishers are in the US and the UK, Diana, although I'm sure there's also something in Australia. Books with lots of illustrations/photos are almost exclusively printed at specialty presses in China.

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  21. Thanks for the update on the process... And...hoping that your recovery from your knee operation goes smoothly too. Just to let you know...your books are well worth the wait!!!! You ROCK!

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  22. Continued best wishes for a good recovery, Julia. And count me among the "can't wait for the new book and I'm ready to pounce on the PRE-ORDER button the nano-second it's possible" camp!

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  23. Cannot wait for the book, and know that it will be worth the wait. I work on a documentary series of books, and our volumes always take forever, so I know the drill and the excuses. Our last volume was delayed because they had to find paper! For our tiny press run!

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    1. I know, Anon - paper! Who would have thought? I once had to do a revision because the ms, at it's original length, would have run three or four pages into a new "book" - the 32 sewn-together papers that are put together in the printing process. I can't recall how much it would have added to the printing expense, but it was enough to get me to hustle and edit out a thousand words to get the length down.

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  24. Great photo complete with a furry loving nurse and red nail polish (perhaps Jungle Red )
    Most interesting about the publishing process, I had heard it had gotten much trickier due to fewer publishers.
    Take care- we will wait patiently and cheer on your recovery (Heather S)


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  25. You’re going well. Julia. Your only task at the present is to let your body heal and not worry about anything… and let people spoil you?

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  26. Julia, your recovery will just fly by, once you get to a certain point! And then one day you will realize that things that were difficult or impossible to do before surgery are no longer causing you any problems. For example, before my knee replacement, I had to plan ahead about how I was going to get into or out of a chair, to minimize the pain. And then the day came when I realized I was no longer thinking about it because I no longer had pain!

    Happy Healing!
    (And I’m waiting for that book!)

    DebRo

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    1. I'm finding that with the back surgery recovery, DebRo. I'm not even conscious that I'm doing things that were painful or that I couldn't do a couple of weeks ago. Silly little things, like having to leave my rubber gloves on the sink because I couldn't bend to put them in the under-sink cabinet--now a breeze.

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  27. Hmm, after looking at your (very fine) photo some more I noticed the book nearby. It looks very familiar and I have made a bet with myself about the title! If it's what I think it is, I liked it so much I read it twice, once long ago and again fairly recently.

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  28. I'm not a member of the joint replacement club, nor anticipate ever joining. No experience to pass on, just well wishes! I'm eagerly awaiting the latest book but I'm patient. It'll get here when it gets here.

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  29. All best wishes for a full and rapid recovery, Julia. You are one of my favorite authors. You look good despite being photographed on your couch of pain! I enjoyed reading the book you have at your side on the end table. Thanks for the info on book production, too.

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  30. Julia, you look terrific! How many weeks is it now? And I think it's great that you're having this enforced rest between finishing the ms. and tackling revisions--they will be all the batter for you having had a brain break!

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  31. Relax.
    Don’t fret.
    We will (hopefully) still be here!
    It will be all the sweeter for the wait.
    Have been through 2 hip replacements.
    It makes me so happy that I only ever had TWO HIPS!
    Do your recovery however you must.

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  32. I think you look fantastic! Slow and steady wins the race. I'm looking forward to the newest book, but now have the time to reread them all before the next one comes out!

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  33. Dear Julia, it sounds as if you're off to a good start on your recovery. I really learned patience after my first knee replacement. It was not a skill I had before then. Keep up the good work! I'm continuing to hold you in the light.

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  34. You're looking good, Julia! Nie to see your smiling face and I'm really glad you have recovery time and don't have to jump right into revisions. All that being said, I am very excited to get the release date when it's announced! Woo hoo!

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  35. Continue being good to yourself and listening to your body. You're looking great so far! Thanks so much for the insights into the publishing experience. So many moving pieces to get your words out to us. I'm with Coralee and her idea to find a good used printing facility and take up some of the slack in getting things printed. I also found it interesting that the smaller self and indie publishers were increasing as the big guys decreased. Sure would be interesting to understand how that came about and watch how it unfolds in the next decade or so. -- Victoria

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  36. I'm glad you are being gentle with yourself. In addition to the obvious discomfort, there's the brain fog from anesthetic. Give it time. <3. (and of course I'd gladly review when it's time).
    -- Storyteller Mary

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  37. You've got a favorite comfort read of mine beside you, Coming Home by Rosamund Pilcher. Good self-care

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  38. Wishing you a happy transition back to walking (running?) without too much (or any!) residual pain. Do all your PT like a good girl & hopefully you will be up & about sooner than anticipated. As my mother used to say "Chin up, one foot in front of the other." Eagerly awaiting that book. (I'm already on the hold list @ my library!

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