LUCY BURDETTE: What I’m really writing today is the ending of book 15. For obvious reasons, I can’t share that—huge spoilers, and besides, it isn’t finished. Here instead is a conundrum I tackled in A POISONOUS PALATE.
A week ago, I told you about how the book began with an e-mail from a reader describing the time she spent on Big Pine Key in the 70s. I knew that I wanted to include that history in the book, but how? One way would be for Hayley Snow to interview people who were there at the time who could describe what happened. But what if their memories were poor? What if they were not telling the truth? Readers would not get enough information to be able to understand the mystery and guess at the puzzle. Worst of all, wouldn’t a series of interviews be boring? In the end, I chose to include snippets from the past from Catherine’s point of view. She was there, after all.
But what were these snippets exactly? It was easier to say what they were not: not a diary, not flashbacks, and not another point of view in the present time. I decided to just write, and not worry too much about what these sections would be called. When I sent the draft into the publisher and got notes back from my excellent editor, she commented that weaving in the 1978 sections borrowed a tool seen more often in psychological suspense than cozy mystery. But she also thought I used it to good effect. That was all I needed to forge ahead. Below I share with you the first historical snippet from 1978.
You really get to know someone living with them in a tent. I hadn’t completely thought it through when Veronica proposed the road trip. But living with my mother was a nightmare, and my job was a dead end, and so was my boyfriend. Michigan in January is frigid, just as he accused me of being.
The first couple of weeks we skated on the surface, singing along with my VHS tapes. David Bowie, Pink Floyd, the Rolling Stones, those were my favorites. She leaned toward Elton John, the Eagles, the Bee Gees. We both loved Queen. Ronnie had brought a stash of killer weed and we slept in rest stops when we got tired. She took the front seat and I took the back, being seven inches taller. And a good 25 pounds heavier. Ronnie had wavy blonde hair that I would’ve killed for, but she said I had the long legs that she always wanted.
The solenoid and then the water pump burned out somewhere around North Carolina, so we found a mechanic and spent two nights in a motel while the car was repaired. A waitress at the drug store counter in the little town nearby noticed we were shivering and wondered why we didn’t go to the Florida Keys. She said her friend’s sister had spent last winter there and couldn’t say enough about how friendly everyone was—and the weather. She leaned her elbows on the counter and rested her chin in her hand. “Oh, the weather. I’d kill to spend the winter down there.”
Once we’d picked up the car and spent pretty much all the money we came with on repairs, we figured why not. We could find some kind of work. If it was warm, we could stay in the tent, and it wouldn’t cost a penny. Neither one of us was ready to go back home. Although three weeks after we’d crossed the Michigan state line into Ohio, and then on through West Virginia and Virginia into North Carolina, neither one of us had talked about what we were running from.
Readers, how do you feel about the past being woven into the present mystery?
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I like the weaving of the past into the present as long as it makes sense in the story being told. And I loved this book!
ReplyDeleteThanks so much, Joan!
DeleteI love the past being weaved into the present, and it sounds like you've done a great job of it, Lucy. Glad you didn't do it with interviews.
ReplyDeletethanks Kathy
DeleteNot every book needs the past woven into it. But if it adds to the story, I enjoy it. I've read some where it felt forced, however.
ReplyDeleteLUCY: I enjoyed reading the snippets from Catherine's POV. It worked well in A POISONOUS PALATE.
ReplyDeletethanks Grace!
DeleteAs long as the past doesn't overtake the present. It should fit smoothly into the story.
ReplyDeleteThat seems like a perfect way to do it, Lucy.
ReplyDeletethanks Edith!
DeleteLooks like a fascinating way to create a layered story.
ReplyDeletethanks Becky Sue!
DeleteI don't like interweaving the past in psychological suspense but in the occasional cozy of a series it deepens my connection with the characters and broadens the full series-story.
ReplyDeleteSo interesting that you don't like it in psychological suspense! Why is that I wonder?
DeleteThey often feature unredeemable villains (not always), and, honestly, in any form of entertainment I don't like "jumpy."
DeleteI like the inter-weaving because it adds layers and I enjoy trying to figure out how the different strands being presented tie together. I love knowing the backstory to this one!
ReplyDeletethanks Amanda!
DeleteI’m quite used to reading books with the past woven into the present. It’s often the case in historical fiction. The genre really shouldn’t matter that much.
ReplyDeleteI do have a question for you though. Did you mean to say they sang along to 8 track tapes instead of VHS tapes?
Good catch, Brenda!
DeleteIn the mid 1970's, it was probably cassette tapes. I bought a cassette player and tapes with me when I lived abroad from 1975 - 1977.
DeleteJudy, my brother had an 8 track player in his car at that time.
DeleteWhatever it SHOULD be, layers of editors and I all missed it:)
DeleteI also took cassettes abroad AND my brother had an eight-track player in his car well into the 80s.
DeleteGlad you mentioned that Brenda; it totally threw me to see such a weird mistake in and otherwise delightful excerpt. VHS is video (hence the name); cassettes or eight track were audio.
DeletePersonal listening was almost totally cassettes. No one bothered with eight except for cars.
DeleteIf it fits the storyline, I'm all for it! I've been working on a story for quite some time. I literally took all the interwoven sections out and tried them as a sort of prologue to the rest of the book. Hated it. Took it apart yet again--left a certain part as prologue, interwove the rest back where they'd begun, and now I think I'm finally satisfied. When the past becomes just one big info dump, then it doesn't work for me. But interwoven, it can add to the suspense (and not just psychological suspense), lead to aha! moments, reveal character--do all sorts of interesting things for the story! Can't wait to read this one (and wow! happy to know a new Hayley is on the horizon!).
ReplyDeleteWhat a process Flora! So pleased that you found a structure that works. There's nothing worse than a big dump of info...
DeleteOh I LOVE the past woven into the present… isn’t that just real life too? This was a great snippet. It immediately drew me in!
ReplyDeletethanks so much Stacia! You are right, it's absolutely like real life:).
DeleteIf events in the past inform the present story, they pretty much need to be included. When flashbacks are done well they can add clues, including whopping big red herrings. It's always fun to figure out which ones are real clues. Looking forward to seeing how you weave Katharine's story into Hayley's.
ReplyDeleteI can't believe this is going to be #15 already, Lucy!
You and me both can't believe it Karen!!
DeleteI liked the snippets from Catherine’s memory and felt it worked very well!
ReplyDeletethanks Emily!
DeleteI really enjoy stories with the past woven in, and look forward to reading this when I get there (currently on Killer Takeout)
ReplyDeleteThere's no rush Gillian:)
DeleteLucy, I finished the book and really liked it. It wasn't the typical Haley Snow on Key West book because it went deeper into issues dealing with how the cycle of emotional or the lack of emotional love, one experiences as a child can affect them as adults unless the cycle of abuse is broken. The plot was expertly crafted. Really well done. I feel that when two stories are told separately (but running side by side) like in some books, that I get comfortable in one chapter with the character(s) and the time frame only to have to jump back and forth between different times and people in the next chapter. However, you had managed to go back through time through the current day characters' memories of the past. It really came together seamlessly.
ReplyDeleteWhen will #15 be released? Soon I hope!!
Oh you're so kind, and no, it was not a typical Key West mystery. Deeper and a little darker. I remember worrying about whether the story in MURDER WITH GANACHE was too dark. My editor assured me it was quite normal to have darker and lighter books in a longer series, as long as the book is recognizable I guess!
DeleteSorry, I meant to say, #15 will be out next August. Must finish first:)
DeleteThis last book really showcases your excellent writing ability. I like your books that have depth and complex plots.
DeleteI wish your future books could be marketed not as cozies but traditional mysteries or even police procedurals. The term cozy does this series a disservice!
I do agree:), thanks so much!
DeleteAnything that adds to the story is fine with me! Sounds like you wove it in beautifully!
ReplyDeletethanks Judi, hope you enjoy!
DeleteI am reading A POISONOUS PALATE right now, Lucy, and I love how you've introduced Catherine's memories of living in the commune on Big Pine Key. Karen used the term, "flashbacks" to describe these memories and it is perfect. It is the best word for describing these snippets of memory, colored not only by that marijuana infused past, but all of her regrets and her "pasts" since. I was dubious before I read the book, but your technique for introducing these thoughts is ideal.
ReplyDeleteTo me, bringing the past into a present day story, whether historical like Rhys uses in THE VENICE SKETCHBOOK or personal, like Catherine's memories here, if done well, is essential to understanding the plot. Every character has a past. It's up to the author to determine how to effectively tell us about it.
that's a good way to put it Judy, the past is always essential to plot I think. Some writers push it forward more than others, and some genres too.
DeleteCan't wait to read this. I do like history woven into contemporary issues. So much room for character growth and conflict!
ReplyDeletethanks Kait!
DeleteI love the past woven through the present... as long as it's not confusing.
ReplyDeleteI wondered whether I needed to label the snippets from the past, but since my writers group was a little confused, I decided I did.
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ReplyDeleteI should have done some plot brainstorming with you as I wrote LOL. Thanks Elisabeth!
DeleteLucy, glad you appreciated my thoughts. Plot brainstorming is our side my talent range. I leave it to the professionals. My own mystery now is why the “blog administrator” removed my comment. Ah, Blogger, you are a fickle thing. Elisabeth
DeleteOops “ outside” not “our side”. Elisabeth
DeleteIf I don't know the character's past, how do I know their present is reliable? If their past is hazy what does that tell me about the character today? I really enjoyed Hayley comes into her strengths.
ReplyDeleteYour editor pointing out the past /present format is used more in psychological features was interesting because I felt this was leaning more towards a psychological than a cozy. It seemed like
Memory played a role too. It was a great read, and kept me guessing. Thank you for sticking with the Key West crew.
Definitely not a cozy!
Deletethanks Coralee, it's my pleasure to stick with them!
DeleteI like weaving the past intro the present and I think it worked really well in this book. Especially as it was in italics. Easy to slip into and out of. I rarely try to guess who-done-it but the culprit completely surprised me. I love “place” (almost as much as characters) in books and the Key West series does this really well! I really enjoyed “A Poisonous Palate!
ReplyDeleteSuzette, thanks so much for the kind words. As a reader I don't work very hard at guessing either--weird for a mystery writer I guess!
DeleteI think your passage worked well. And the last line about what they were running away from, especially considering they'd not told their friends, poses a story question. We may not have read Faulker, but we sure do know and likely feel this quote of his: "The past is never dead. It's not even past."
ReplyDeleteI love that quote, thanks Rhonda!
DeleteI love this snippet, Lucy. It has just the right degree of chill to it. And of course I’m a big fan of books where the past and present interact.
ReplyDeleteOf course, you are the master Rhys!
DeleteWhen it's done deftly - as I'm sure you did - the past can add a wonderful element to the present.
ReplyDeleteLUCY: Wonderful snippet and I look forward to reading your novel when I receive a copy from the library and I love books where the past and the present interact. I have seen that in several cozy mysteries.
ReplyDeleteYou know I love the weaving of the past and present, Lucy! And when I first read the snippet you used as an example today, I thought, "What gorgeous writing!" And it really does up the suspense.
ReplyDeleteOh Debs, thanks so much for that. I remember asking you how you did this when I was struggling with the idea
DeleteI thought you did it very cleverly! It provided clues and a sense of history. I've read A Poisonous Palate and I think it's one of your best, Lucy.
ReplyDeletethanks so much Pat! Now how will I follow that up?
Deleteand now you are again a USA TODAY BESTSELLER!!!!!! YAAYYYYYYYYY! You must be doing SOMETHING right, sister!
ReplyDeleteHanging out with the Reds, that's my secret weapon. thanks hank! xo
DeleteAww...xoxo
DeleteHow do you feel about the past being woven into the present mystery? Well, I love historical fiction! So, on Tuesday night when Sarah Stewart Taylor described her research on the 1960s, that is exactly what I enjoy about historical fiction. It gives me just enough of the past to entertain me and to take me off into a nice adventure! Nice to meet you finally on Tuesday night and your book is next on my TBR list! It was also nice to meet Hallie Ephron and chat with her!
ReplyDeletethanks Alicia, we loved having you there!
DeleteI love seeing the past being woven into the present, especially when the two fit together to reveal a completed puzzle! It's always so fun to see pieces falling into place as a story goes along. I really enjoyed the snippet you shared! The characters are so well-fleshed out and have such distinct personality traits, even just from these four paragraphs.
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