HANK PHILLIPPI RYAN: One of my favorite things in the world to say is: Reds and readers, here is Tracy Clark!
Tracy, as you well know, is a long time and fabulous friend of the Reds, and she is one of the most fascinating people ever. And an incredibly talented writer. AND her main character is named Harriet, as am I, so that has also rendered her to me forever.
The newest Detective Harriet Foster books is ECHO, and it is out right now, and more on that below.
But back to how Tracy’s mind works. Herewith: a look inside.
By Tracy Clark
I have a drainpipe. Wait, let me back up. I don’t actually own a drainpipe, I’ve just laid claim to one, and it’s a beaut.
Here’s the history.
I got one of those always-comes-at-the-busiest time emissions notices in the mail letting me know my car was due for testing, or else a big arm would swoop down out of the sky and pluck my vehicle up and sling it into Lake Michigan. Needless to say, it wasn’t happy mail. An emissions notice is about as welcome as a jury summons.
Duty-bound, I took the car in, though the nearest testing facility is miles away from where I live, out in the middle of nowhere, practically. Coming out of the place, obligation met, that’s when I spotted it. The drainpipe. It was just sitting there at the side of the gravel road, as bold as you please. I stopped my car. I got out. I marveled at the drainpipe. My imagination grew wings.
The pipe is about the size a body might fit in, I thought, as others summoned for emissions tests passed me by, giving me curious glances. No matter. Crime writers get curious looks all the time as we skulk around town poking our heads into places they don’t belong. How else are we going to find the perfect spots to drop fictional bodies?
All rusted and solitary, with a couple of inches of gunky water at the bottom, the pipe looked as though no city worker had touched it since Old Man Daley ruled the roost from the fifth floor of City Hall. Perfect.
I grinned like a mad scientist at the dirty old drainpipe as I thought of all the things I could do with it, fiction-wise. Looking around, I noticed a few streetlights and wondered how many would actually work once the sun went down. There were also security cameras outside the testing facility, which likely meant somebody somewhere had footage of me standing in front of the pipe, eyes wide and mouth agape. There’s also probably tape of me taking photos of the pipe (click, click), but let them go ahead and send it to the cops. I’m pretty sure I can talk myself out of a trespassing rap.
It's funny how an out-of-the-way place can spark an idea and set a mood. I’d bet you good money thousands of regular people passed that pipe a bazillion times and never gave it a second thought. I saw it once, and I haven’t forgotten about it since.
Why? Because where writers set a story is as important as what the story’s about. How creepy would Stephen King’s The Shining have been if he’d set it in a small B&B off Redondo Beach on Fourth of July weekend?
The right setting is important, vital even to good storytelling. I write crime. Dark, gritty, out-of-the-way places work for me. Behold the drainpipe!
Since my fortuitous discovery, I’ve thought about how to use my drainpipe and, more importantly, about what kind of killer would stoop so low as to cram a body into such an inhospitable place. I’ve written a couple of books since finding my treasure, but neither story seemed right for the pipe, and I don’t want to just shoehorn it in. My drainpipe deserves better than that, and I can likely only use it once.
I need the right story, the right killer, and when I find them, boy, is it gonna be great. A lot will have to go into this, though. The killers I’ve written about so far have had other priorities and other kinks. Pipes weren’t on their dance cards. Once I create my twisted killer, then I’ll have to figure out their motivation. I mean, why pipes and not, oh, I don’t know, treehouses or car trunks?
Is the pipe simple expedience, or is it something more?
Then comes atmosphere. I think I can do better than a gravel road. I Googled drainpipes (don’t judge) and found a few that were creepily concealed by rocks and mossy leaves. I think I can take my pipe and zhuzh it up a bit. Writers zhuzh all the time, taking something real and dialing it up a notch or two.
Anyway, that’s my current challenge. Matching pipe to psychopath, taking what’s real and making it more real, starting with something creepy and adding more creep to it for book thrills. I know my assignment, and I am ready for opportunity to knock.
Side note: I didn’t crawl into the drainpipe with a flashlight like Nancy Drew. I know some writers who would have, though. (You crazy kids know who you are. Props!) Nope, I got enough from looking at the pipe to imagine the mysteries it could hold. My brain will do the rest.
So, if you read one of my books and come across a scene where there’s a body stuffed in a drainpipe, just know that’s my pipe. You can also be assured that as I wrote that scene there was a satisfied grin on my face.
Meanwhile, back at this writer’s ranch, I just got a summons for jury duty. Ugh. I’m not looking forward to that so much, but you never know what hidden gem I might pass on my way to the courthouse.
Wish me luck.
HANK: Oh, Tracy, I think jury duty is destined to bring you a life-changing story idea! And as the wife of a criminal defense attorney, I am especially grateful when smart and thoughtful people agree to be on juries.Someone will really thank you for this.
Reds and Readers, how do you feel about jury duty?
Tracy Clark is the author of ECHO (December 3, 2024; Thomas and Mercer) the third novel in the Detective Harriet Foster police procedural series. She is also author of the Cass Raines PI series (Kensington Books), a two-time Sue Grafton Memorial Award-winning author, the 2024 Anthony Award-winner for Best Paperback Original, the 2024 Lefty Award-winner for Best Mystery and the 2022 winner of the Sara Paretsky Award. She is a board member-at-large of Sisters in Crime, Chicagoland and a member of International Thriller Writers, and serves on the boards of Mystery Writers of America Chicago and the Midwest Mystery Conference. You can visit her online at tracyclarkbooks.com.
ECHO (December 3, 2024; Thomas and Mercer):
From the award-winning author of Hide and Fall comes a taut tale of renegade justice and long-awaited resolution, bringing the thrilling Detective Harriet Foster series to a heart-stopping conclusion.
Hardwicke House, home to Belverton College’s exclusive Minotaur Society, is no stranger to tragedy. And when a body turns up in the field next to the mansion, the scene looks chillingly familiar.
Chicago PD sends hard-nosed Detective Harriet “Harri” Foster to investigate. The victim is Brice Collier, a wealthy Belverton student, whose billionaire father, Sebastian, owns Hardwicke and ranks as a major school benefactor. Sebastian also has ties to the mansion’s notorious past, when thirty years ago, hazing led to a student’s death in the very same field.
Could the deaths be connected? With no suspects or leads, Harri and her partner, Detective Vera Li, will have to dig deep to find answers. No charges were ever filed in the first case, and this time, Harri’s determined the killer must pay. But still grieving her former partner’s death, Harri must also contend with a shadowy figure called the voice—and their dangerous game of cat and mouse could threaten everything.
Congratulations on your newest book, Tracy . . . and I'm definitely going to watch for that drainpipe story!
ReplyDeleteHow do I feel about jury duty? It's an important part of our justice system, an obligation everyone should be willing to accept . . . .
LOVE the drainpipe! I agree!
DeleteThanks, you guys! My drainpipe is near and dear to me. LOL.
DeleteI love this so much, Tracy. I would have been there taking pictures of the drainpipe, too! Isn't it great when we stumble on that kind of spark? Congratulations on the new book!
ReplyDeleteI was very nearly empaneled on a jury about five years ago on a Tuesday, but the trial was to last five days, and I had a ticket to Chicago that Friday to be on a panel at Murder and Mayhem in Chicago. The judge, a woman about my age, wasn't happy with my news, but she let me off. I had been looking forward to picking up a drainpipe or two. But I was also astonished at all the younger people discussing among themselves how they were going to get out of this sacred duty.
Oh, that must have been so depressing...yes, I'm sure the judge would have loved to have you on the jury.
DeleteI was an alternate juror once. Interesting experience. Had to do all the stuff, but didn't get to put my two cents in. I still hope to get my "12 Angry Men" moment. Goals! LOL
DeleteTracy, what a great find! From the photo, the area looks rural, almost New England-like. I love the way it sparked so many ideas. You certainly have written your share of creepy places into your stories and you are deeply admired for that.
ReplyDeleteI have reported for jury duty more than once but I have never been chosen. There are a couple funny stories attached to my dismissal. You know, the questions they ask you to see if you'd fit, well, the defendant in one case turned to his attorney and said, " Not her." Meanwhile, my husband was selected twice. Oh, well.
"not her"? Oh, that's surprising. I would have pointed to you you and said--yes! Her!
DeleteWell, that was rude. I bet the defendant saw something in your steely gaze that wasn't going to work out for him. LOL.
DeleteHe didn't like my answers to the questions. It was too bad. I was more sympathetic than he knew.
DeleteThat drainpipe is sinister, for sure! I shiver to think of a corpse being left in such a forbidding and godforsaken spot. An ignominious end for anyone.
ReplyDeleteWe were just talking about jury duty last night, and how we are all ageing out of either being summoned or not being allowed to serve at all. I was called twice, years ago, and had to beg off for travel plans back when I had my public speaking business. Since I retired in 2008 I haven't been called once, naturally. Only one of the three of us at dinner last night had served, for a drug case. Lots more of those than there are murders, I guess.
Ageing out? Is there such a thing?
DeleteIn Ohio, if you are 75 or older you can get an automatic excuse. I suspect there is a top age, but I haven't researched that.
DeleteOh, I didn't know that!
DeleteIt would seem to me they would want jurors with a lot of life experience. Those of a certain age have seen it all and done it all and have a very low tolerance for flim-flam. Hmmm. Maybe that's why defense lawyers don't want them? Sneaky.
DeleteIn Connecticut, you also get a pass after a certain age, if you want to. Just return the form saying you have reached that age and don't want to serve any more.
DeleteTracy,
ReplyDeleteCongrats on the new book. Echo is on my buy list and I can't wait to get my hands on it.
As for the question:
George Carlin said it best when he said that the easiest way to get out of jury duty is to tell the judge you'd make an excellent juror because you can spot a guilty person *snaps fingers* just like that.
Look, I know jury duty is an important civic duty. But it is also a gigantic pain in the posterior. You have to report early, be sequestered away in a room with other people who don't want to be there and watch some decades old video explaining the duties of being a juror. (As if all these years we've watched legal shows hasn't given us an idea to that).
Then you have to sit around and wait and wait and hurry up and wait some more while the legal system trundles along taking its own sweet time to accomplish even the smallest task. Hey, my time is valuable to me. The longer you make me wait around doing nothing, the less interested I'm going to be in being there while you waste what little free time I have out of work that isn't running errands or sleeping.
Of course, one of only two times I made it to the courtroom as a potential juror, they asked if we had any reason we couldn't serve. When I went up to the bench I told them that I knew the prosecution witness, the defense witness and the defendant. And if he was sitting at the table, he freaking did it. And I was being totally honest. I was out of there in 10 seconds.
So if jury duty wasn't so much of a pain, maybe it would be less inspiring of a prison break by the juror pool.
You are SUCH a troublemaker! And we rely on it. :-)
DeleteI work in journalism. Back in the good old days, that's all I had to say to get dismissed. Not anymore. The one time I did get selected as an alternate, the defense lawyer asked if I'd ever been the victim of a crime. "Um, I live in Chicago," I said, "so, yeah."
DeleteTRACY: HA, I look forward to reading about that drainpipe in a zhushed up setting in a future book!
ReplyDeleteAs for jury duty, I have never been summoned (yet). But I was asked to submit a form this fall so I may get chosen next year.
P.S. You already know I enjoyed reading ECHO.
You will be a terrific juror!
DeleteGrace, oh yeah, they got ya now. Await that summons! And thanks for reading Echo. So glad you enjoyed it.
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ReplyDeleteThe book sounds great and I love the drainpipe story! As for jury duty, I have served once and missed (phew) a Grand Jury seating. Once my hearing loss advanced to the point that I had bilateral cochlear implant surgery I was certified permanently ineligible for jury duty. I would’ve needed accommodation such as Closed Captions and not sure that would be in the interest of justice. There are plenty of fully hearing citizens who can do the job!
Yes, it's all about the interest of justice..and a speedy trial if that's what the defendant wants!
DeleteInteresting. Their loss. I'm sure you'd make a fantastic juror if courts weren't too strapped to make the accommodation.
DeleteCongrats on the new book, Tracy! It just goes to show that people can see the same object and find a different meaning for it. I live out in the country and I too once saw a similar pipe just lying there. It only made me think that someone was going to have a driveway put in. When I built my house it was up to me to obtain the pipe and then the county would come in their sweet time and install it for my driveway, laying up the stones and so on like in your picture.
ReplyDeleteMany years a go when I was still a little girl a new road was put in in front of my grandmother's house. And under that road was a brand new huge pipe for water to go from one side of the road to the other. It was summertime so there was no water running through it which allowed my brother and me to have a ball running from one end to the other. What fun that was! Luckily we never stumbled over any bodies!
As for jury duty I once spent a few months on the grand jury. We met every Friday to discuss various cases. Since GJ is secret I can't tell you about any of them but I assure you, they were fairly boring - nothing that sparked any ideas in me at all.
Oh, I can picture that! Your own private tunnel!
DeleteAs I was reading this, all I could think of was that creepy clown from Stephen King's "It." What would have happened if you rolled the ball through the pipe to your brother, he rolled it back. Then you rolled it back again and the ball didn't make it out on the other side. Which one of you would have volunteered to go in and retrieve the ball from the clown? LOL.
DeleteTracy, you describe perfectly the machinations of a crime writer's mind! I can't wait to see how you use it. My hub has a judge friend who is always annoyed when people try to weasel out of jury duty. Yes, it's a big pain, but if I was accused of a crime, I'd want you smart people on the jury!
ReplyDeleteEXACTLY. This is what my husband says, always,--it is so important to have smart people on the jury!
DeleteOne woman in the selection process once told the judge that she couldn't serve because her son was a member of Seal Team 6. My eyes narrowed. She was dismissed. You're right. Nobody likes a jury weasel. LOL
DeleteTracy, that drainpipe is perfect for hiding a body! I can't wait to see what you do with it.
ReplyDeleteI also have to catch up with Harriet. So many books. Sigh.
But that will be a pleasure, right?
DeleteSame thing I said. I'm on book 8. LOL.
DeleteA few things came to mind after reading today's blog; the first being that I LOVE the cover of this book. The image of a rope "hanging on by a thread" and about to snap sends shivers up my spine along with countless ways it could be used in a frightening and sinister way. What a great book cover! Secondly is the title. One word only and mysterious enough to make me want to instantly dive into the story to find the reason behind the term "Echo". So many scenarios leap out at me! Words can be so captivating and thrilling, grotesque and frightening or just plain funny. Tracy Clark's use of the word "zhuzh" made me laugh out loud. Plus her comparing an emissions notice to a jury duty notice is hilarious. I used to dread getting those notices in the mail when I was working full time. How it was going to disrupt my job or personal life; how to change or cancel appointments already on the calendar if chosen, etc. The word "if" being the most important term of all. Because worrying became needless as I was never chosen even as an alternate juror. There were always so many people ahead of me and my number so high I was never given the chance of being interviewed. However, once I retired from Harvard I felt my time was more flexible so the next notice I received for jury duty was welcoming. I wanted to serve. My excitement grew even stronger when I learned it involved a murder trial. My number was somewhere in the middle and the possibility of being interviewed became more plausible. However, the second I laid eyes on the suspect...the husband...I already knew the story behind the death of his wife. I turned to the woman next to me in the courtroom and said "Howdy Doody...He's guilty for sure." Did anyone else hear me say that? Would that discount me from serving because I had already declared him guilty? Would the fact that he turned his head toward potential jurors and grinned at us muddy my perception? All those questions swirled around in my head needlessly as a jury plus alternates were selected once they reached number 103. I was number 105. My lucky number but not that day. As the saying goes...Close but no cigar.
ReplyDeleteYes, whoa, that would have disqualified you, for sure!
DeleteHowdy Doody. LOVE it!
DeleteThe moment the defendant James Keown stepped into the courtroom I recognized him by his red hair color and I knew right away the story behind the insidious crime he was being charged with...murdering his wife by slowly and methodically lacing her bottle water and gatorade with antifreeze. His background...stories of deception, lies and fraud were also very familiar to me. He lied to colleagues, friends and his wife about his career in radio back in Missouri and Chicago as well as being accepted at Harvard Business School after a fraudulent letter from Harvard University Admissions Office (that he created) was discovered. The fancy cars were nothing more than rentals and every tale he spun was pure fiction especially to his unsuspecting wife. He collected on a 250,000 Life Insurance Policy taken out on his wife to not pay off debts but to further deceive others that he was living the high life. He presented a picture of over confidence, a certain air of arrogance and being "full of himself" and had no problem swinging for the fences. Only he never experienced success. He just simply kept striking out. Deception breeding more deception until he was backed into a corner and the Massachusetts State Police eventually walked into his workplace a year after his wife had died and arrested him on first degree murder. Proving he had laced her Gatorade with antifreeze was but there was plenty of background information about it searched on his computer. I remember thinking to myself the second I saw him how badly I felt for his wife who was only in her 30's when she slowly suffered over several months until she died from the final lethal dose. I remember how her husband walked in all "glammed up" in a sharp suit and tie and turned around and smiled at all of us as if he had just strolled into an important business meeting! I'll never forget the hot flush of anger that traveled upwards from my neck to my cheeks and in a moment of impulse I turned to the woman next to me and said the words I wrote above ~"Howdy Doody...He's guilty for sure." In my mind I had already tried and convicted him as well as thoroughly despised him. Nonpartisanship? I think not. What I saw before me was premeditated evil and I would have been unsuccessful at hiding my true feelings.No doubt what Hank Phillippi Ryan said above...She would definitely know as a successful Investigative Reporter as well as being married to a prominent Defense Attorney that I would have been tossed from that jury selection in a heartbeat.
DeleteP.S. Tracy Clark ~ "Echo" is on my list of the next book to read and I am truly looking forward to becoming a "Harriott Foster" fan. Plus your sense of humor laced into your blog today made me laugh out loud. I don't think you will ever leave Chicago either. :)
DeleteTracy, you're scaring me already and I haven't done more than look at the cover of ECHO. But that drainpipe--yep, lots of possibilities there.
ReplyDeleteJury duty? Many summons, but so far not selected. (Flora)
FLora, did you hear you won Sharon Short's book??? YAAY!! Email me!
DeleteI've run into so many people who have never been called for jury duty. Not sure why my name seems to come up every couple of years. Maybe it wouldn't if they knew I was sitting in the jury pool room staring at people as potential book characters.
DeleteMaybe on jury duty, you will meet your drainpipe psychopath--either someone charged with a crime that you meet from afar or someone else in the jury pool will inspire you. I've been on jury duty a bunch of times and mostly enjoyed it. I served on a jury with a deputy DA (the judge told him that since it was a civil case, he had to be on the jury). He and I did crosswords together each morning. It's fun to get to know different people from the community who are thrown together on the jury. The last jury summons I received was for January 2011 and it was for a grand jury. Unfortunately I had just retired and didn't want to cancel the classes and volunteer shifts I had just signed up for, so I begged off.
ReplyDeleteYes, yes, LOVE that! The psychopath is on your jury! PERFECT and genius.
DeletePsychopath on a jury. The mind reels. Hmmm.
DeleteRight???
DeleteHank, woohoo! Please share you email address!
DeleteI forget I'm Anonymous on Thursdays. Flora
Deletehank@hankphillippiryan.com.
DeleteThere was a little concrete creek between the little shopping center and the houses in my neighborhood when I was a girl. It must have had drain pipe somewhere but I don't remember where, though I'm sure my brother would have found it and played in it.
ReplyDeleteJury duty, ah yes. The last time I was called, I got into a courtroom. I had just started a new job after being off work for almost a year, so I was dismissed due to heart ship. But the judge was really looking at me. One of those looks like "I know her" looks. He did, we were neighbors when I was a kid and he was the assistant DA, serving with two of my uncles.
Wow, what a coincidence!
DeleteSmall world.
DeleteCongratulations on your new book, Tracy! Your drainpipe will lead to a very interesting mystery!
ReplyDeleteI served on a triple murder jury six months after my daughter was born in the 80s. The murder of a mother and her two young children, one of whom was a baby, took place on Christmas Eve! The details are not important but it was over a drug deal gone bad and the husband jumped out of the second storey bathroom window to avoid being killed! In Canada, it’s not that easy to get out of a jury summons. Names are sourced from provincial health card records. My name came up again two years ago when I received the summons in the mail. I had already purchased my airline ticket to Florida for a vacation and I had to send proof to the sheriff’s office in order to be excused. Years ago my Father received a jury summons and it was served in person at our home on Christmas Eve while we were having supper! My Father and I both found sitting on our juries very interesting and time consuming. The court system wastes a lot of time by taking breaks and long lunches. 😊
Yes, the system can be slow--but you are so honorable to have participated! Even with the surprising Christmas Eve delivery!
DeleteHere, if you ignore a jury summons consistently, they used to dispatch a sheriff's deputy to your door to impress upon you the importance of fulfilling your civic duty. The "impressing" part is reportedly firm and doesn't provide one inch of wiggle room. It never happened to me, but I've heard stories. I wouldn't mind a stare-off with a sheriff's deputy, though. It might be fun ... for about a minute. LOL.
DeleteTracy, A stare-off with a sheriff’s deputy might be fun ! LOL
DeleteI have to say, I love the idea of drainpipes - they always LOOK so creepy. Absolutely the best place to stash a body, although I'd suggest waiting for the dry season to avoid early discovery.
ReplyDeleteOddly, I've never been called for jury duty, despite the small size of our population, and if I were to be, I'd be dismissed immediately - I was a lawyer and a member of the Maine Bar. My sister has been on jury duty twice, and found it fascinating. (It helped that she was a SAHM at the time, and not missing out on a job.)
When I was on a jury, there were other lawyers! So you never know.
DeleteI wonder if animals would disturb the body. Probably would. Rats, maybe. Hmmm. The possibilities are endless.
DeleteI love drainpipes! Can't wait to see how you use it. We had one in our town when I was a kid. It emptied into what we called chemical creek - if featured lime green water, supposedly outflow from Royce Chemical. The big dare consisted of crawling through it to the exit two streets up. No flashlights, just heading for the spot of daylight that seemed miles away.
ReplyDeleteAs for jury duty. I've never been picked - that happens when you work for one of the largest law firms in the state as a probate/litigation paralegal. It's always been entertaining, though. The last time I was called the woman sitting next to me announced during voir dire that she couldn't be impartial because if her kid had done what the defendant was accused of she'd "unleash a can of whoop ass on him like this fella's mama shoulda done." Can't make that stuff up, and yes, she was released as well.
Great quote!
DeleteAgain, my first thought is that creepy clown from Stephen King's "It." You walking the drainpipe in the dark, but you're not the only one in there. Another set of eyes is watching you. Eyes glowing. A sinister grin. An evil heart. And BAM no one gets out of the pipe alive.
DeleteTRACY: Welcome to Jungle Reds! And congratulations on your new Harriet mystery novel! The name Harriet reminds me of the novel HARRIET THE SPY and a real life historical figure Harriet Tubman.
ReplyDeleteThe jury system is an essential part of our democracy.
Agreed!
DeleteFitzhugh's "Harriet the Spy," was my absolute favorite book as a kid! I even have my original copy still in on my bookshelves. Interestingly, Det. Harriet Foster is named for Harriet Tubman. Tubman, the leader of men, Moses, leading her people to freedom. Det. Foster leads her team, she fights for justice. A lot to live up to for her and for me.
DeleteCongratulations on your latest, Tracy! I think you just answered "where do you get your ideas?" perfectly! Looking forward to reading ECHO - love Harriet and the premise is fabulous!
ReplyDeletexoxo
DeleteThank you, Jenn! Ideas come from all kinds of places. You never know when a spark will ignite. Funnily, I was at the dealership getting my car serviced just the other day and watched a pretty interesting person sitting there who could make a rather interesting killer. I found the car lift appealing too. I wondered if the repair guys left some cars up there overnight. What if when they came in the next morning, finished the repairs, and lowered the car down, there was a body inside? Filing it away.
DeleteI’m so excited to see you here on the blog, Tracy! I love all of your books, thus far (haven’t read Echo yet) and got to meet you in Nashville this past summer. I even got a picture taken with you and Lori Rader-Day! I love this essay about “your” drainpipe. Can’t wait to see what you do with it.
ReplyDeleteI am wondering if California has a different approach to jury duty than other states. I can’t believe some of you haven’t been called for years or only once or twice in your lives. I get called every 18 months, like clockwork. I was only on a jury once and that was as an alternate. The case involved a drug bust sting. I sat through the entire case, which was interesting in itself, but couldn’t go into the jury room for deliberations. Later, after the verdict (not guilty because the prosecution couldn’t prove the defendant was the person the police officer had seen), two of the jurors took me out to let me know what happened during deliberations. I thought that was very kind of them. I was also 25 years old and they were “old” men (probably 40!), but still everyone behaved appropriately and I got to hear the whole story. — Pat S
Oh, Pat, that is so cool that you got to hear the scoop!
DeleteCongratulations on the new book, Tracy. Harriet/Harri is such a great detective character. And, congratulations on your drain pipe discovery. What a gem of a story piece you have waiting to be used. I have to disagree with you about the gravel road though. Gravel roads always affect me as a route to hidden places where you might not want to visit.
ReplyDeleteJury duty. This strikes too close for me right now. Yes, I would do my jury duty and have, but more importantly, I'm hoping that intelligent, good people will comprise the jury for the trial of my son's killer.
Yes, we all are with you, dear one.
DeleteThat is my hope as well.
DeleteThere was a scene in the tv series WEEDS that included a body stuffed in a drainpipe. Quite effective.
ReplyDeleteOOH!
DeleteLove the drainpipe and look forward to its appearance in a future book.
ReplyDeleteI have been summoned for jury duty one time. I went through some preliminary questioning but was not selected for the jury. It was a felony case for a sewing machine being stolen from a store. Felony because it was worth more than $1000. The case ended up being settled.
It was inconvenient to only know the day before whether or not I needed to report as I had little kids at home, but I found it to be a very interesting experience and feel it is everyone’s civic duty to serve
My husband was a jury foreman once. It was a frustrating experience trying to get a unanimous vote from the jury.
Wow, what an experience for him!
DeleteDrainpipes! Useful for so many things. Back in the 70s my husband was a Border Patrol agent, serving in Ysleta, down river from El Paso. Lots of farming along the river and many, many irrigation canals. There was a drain pipe or culvert over one of the ditches that illegals were using as a bridge. One of the farmers had left a can of grease or oil nearby. Unnamed people greased the culvert from the halfway point to land. No one broke the law that night.
ReplyDeleteWow.
DeleteLove your drainpipe, Tracy, and of course I'm already thinking "why pick a spot close to security cameras? Did psycopathic killer want there to be a record of him/her stashing the body?" And then, "What if the killer wasn't a nut, but a relatively (!) sane person who had a good reason for stashing a body in a drainpipe?" Hmm. Such fun.
ReplyDeleteWhen my husband was an active police officer I never got chosen, obviously, but I've served several times in the last few years, both civil and criminal cases. It's all fascinating, but maybe the most interesting thing is the power dynamics between the jurors in the jury room.
Love the power dynamics!!!
ReplyDeleteI have been called for jury duty three times. The first time I got as far as the courtroom but my number didn’t come up. The second time I didn’t get out of the jury pool area.
ReplyDeleteThe third time the attorneys went through virtually everyone before I was selected.
There were several interesting aspects, the courtroom we were in had a lot of history. It was the site of a number of high profile trials both on the local and the national level. The judge and both the defense attorney and the prosecuting attorney were all women.
I feel I gained a lot from the experience, both during the trial and the jury deliberation. Hearing the victim’s testimony and how she was affected made it not just another news story but an insight into the long lasting trauma the victim experienced.
The judge also came back to the jury room after the trial ended to answer any questions we had and told us that we could come back when she was going to hand down the sentence.