Tuesday, April 29, 2025

Kim Hays--Life in a Tower

DEBORAH CROMBIE: There is nothing I love more than a good police procedural, especially one with an appealing detective duo. Add a fascinating place--in this case the city of Bern, Switzerland-- and I am way over in the fan camp! I've read Kim Hays' Linder and Donatelli books from the very first and I await each new installment eagerly. I think you'll be as intrigued as I was by this newest addition to the series--and by Bern's Munster!



Life in a Tower

Kim Hays

 

When Peter and I arrived in Bern one week after our wedding in Kings Mountain, North Carolina, we moved into a recently renovated attic apartment. We were in our early thirties, so we didn’t mind climbing the stairs to our place on the fourth floor. Eventually, when I was 38 and carrying our six-month-old son and his baby paraphernalia up and down those stairs (and his laundry to and from the washing machine in the basement), we moved to a second-floor apartment not far away, and we’re still there. Today, we only have 28 steps to climb from the street to the door of our apartment. Those stairs keep us fit.

Now, imagine living in an apartment that requires a climb of 254 steps from street level to your apartment door.

Not one family, but many, did this for almost two hundred years, which is how long there were couples and their children living in the 330-foot tower of Bern’s largest Gothic church, the Münster. The first family moved there in 1826, when the tower apartment had no running water. The last family, a couple without children, moved out in 2007. By then, the apartment had a living room, bedroom, tiny kitchen, even tinier office, and a full bathroom with a washing machine. A corridor ran down the middle of the living space, and its ceiling was open to the room above, which was the size of the whole apartment and had a sixteenth-century vaulted ceiling. A spiral staircase in one corner of the apartment led to the beautiful room upstairs, where generations of apartment families hung their laundry to dry.

Who lived there all those years? Watchers—who had nothing to do with Swiss watches.

I’ll explain.

Bern was founded in 1191 by the Duke of Zähringen, who built a castle on a hill above the Aare River that encircles the city. The duke’s guards were Bern’s security force. When the Duke's family line died out in 1218, his castle was destroyed, and a church was built in its place. I don’t know that guards were set in the church’s bell tower to keep watch over the city and the boats on the river, but I feel sure they were.




Bern’s tradition of watchers from on high assumed special importance after 1405, the year of the Great Fire, when most of the city’s buildings, almost all made of wood, burned to the ground. Bern was slowly rebuilt of stone in the traditional half-timbered, medieval style, but fire remained a tremendous danger. The building of the Münster began in 1421, and by 1519, there is a record of Hochwächter or “high watchmen” working in shifts in the church’s tower, looking out over the town for any sign of trouble. There was a fire bell they could ring if they saw flames, and other Münster bells sent out different messages, warning the city of floods or attacks or calling the people to assemble.

In the nineteenth century, the men paid to watch the city day and night were allowed to move their families into the tower. By the twentieth century, women could also be guards; the most famous was Frau Kormann. As wife, mother, and widow from 1909 to 1966, she sold tickets to tourists who wanted to see the view from the tower and kept an eye on the city.

The high place from which the earliest watchmen observed was not the 330-foot tower of today, with its elegant stone filagree tip. Bern built its Münster slowly, with numerous pauses after 1421 to raise building funds or deal with crises like the Reformation and the Plague. It wasn’t until the late fifteen hundreds that the city finally hired someone to finish the tower. The builder and his workers were preparing the blocks of stone that would become the rest of the late Gothic church when the builder died, and the additional 178 feet of tower, which included a second, much smaller viewing balcony 90 stairs above the first, were not added until 1893, following the old plans.

Pursuing a plot for my fourth Linder and Donatelli mystery, I started researching the Berner Münster. I didn’t know then what I would write about; I just followed my interest in the church, which had been undergoing renovations during the three decades I’d lived in Bern (and back to the 1950s, I later learned). I read about the history of the tower apartment and talked to the last woman to live there. I spoke with current and former tower ticket sellers, volunteers in the church shop, the sexton, and a former pastor. I learned more about what had been done to replace or preserve the building’s 600-year-old vaulted ceilings and sandstone walls, and I spent time with the glass artist responsible for repairing the fifteenth-century stained glass windows.




Out of this research came Splintered Justice, which features not only Linder and Donatelli, my two police detectives, and many new people but also Bern’s magnificent Münster. I hope what I’ve told you about the church has made you eager to read more about it.

Or maybe you'll come and see it someday!

Do any of you have a favorite church, castle, park, town square, or other landmark in your hometown or elsewhere else?


DEBS: Isn't that all just fascinating? I had to look up photos of the Munster as I was reading. Golly, those tower dwellers must have been fit!!

Here's more about SPLINTERED JUSTICE:


How does a victim get justice when there’s no obvious crime?

Swiss homicide detective Giuliana Linder of the Bern Police and her junior colleague Renzo Donatelli are facing cases that may not be what they appear. Renzo is near the Bern cathedral when a young man repairing a medieval window is hurt falling from a scaffold—a fall deliberately caused by a teenage boy.

 

Finding evidence that the boy’s attack is linked to his mother’s suicide fifteen years earlier, Renzo decides to reexamine the woman’s death, hoping the investigation will help him get promoted.

 

Although she’s busy researching a woman who has poisoned her elderly husband, Giuliana can’t help getting involved in Renzo’s case. Their investigations prove more disruptive than they expected—and so do their feelings for each other.

   


Kim Hays, a citizen of both Switzerland and the United States, has written four books in the Polizei Bern series featuring Swiss homicide detectives Linder and Donatelli. Hays grew up in San Juan and Vancouver and studied at Harvard and UC Berkeley. Thirty-six years ago, she moved to Bern, her Swiss husband’s hometown, where she worked as a cross-cultural coach for expats at multinational companies before becoming a mystery writer. The first Linder and Donatelli book, 
Pesticide (2022), was a finalist for the Crime Writers’ Association’s Debut Dagger Award and the Silver Falchion Award for Best Mystery. Pesticide was followed by Sons and Brothers (2023), and A Fondness for Truth (2024), which was a BookLife Editor’s Pick. The fourth in the series, Splintered Justice, will be out in April 2025.

DEBS: Kim is on holiday in Romania so will be 7 hours later than EST. She will reply to comments but begs your patience!

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  1. Wow . . . what a fascinating history for the church . . . and now I'm anxious to see how it fits into your story! [It's hard to imagine so many people climbing all those stairs over the years . . . it wears me out just thinking about it!]
    Congratulations on your new book, Kim . . . I'm looking forward to reading it.

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    1. Thanks, Joan. I hope you enjoy the new book. While I was researching it, I climbed to the lower and upper balconies four or five times over a year, but I haven't done it for about six months now. I can't imagine doing it many times a day, Suppose you forgot to buy the milk!

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  2. What a fascinating history of the watchers in Bern, Switzerland. No bears 🐻 in Bern? Do I have a favorite church? In Britain and continental Europe there are so many beautiful churches everywhere. Towns with cobblestone streets were my favorite places. It felt very quaint to me.

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  3. Bern's mascots, its three bears, are still there in their park, across the river from the Münster, Diana. And Bern's Old Town is all cobblestone streets.

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    1. I never thought about Bern meaning bear!

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    2. Edith, in Bernese German dialect, Bär is bear and Bärn is the pronunciation of the city. And our coat of arms is a bear. But why would the Duke of Zähringer name a conquered city "bear"? Who knows?

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  4. I love how deeply you dug into the church's history, Kim. Congratulations on the new book - fun to see you on the front of the blog!

    I once climbed up the 330 steps of the Strasbourg Cathedral but I don't know if it has a history of watchers. Here at home my favorite church is our Friends Meetinghouse, built in 1851. It's simple and light-filled with very high ceilings.

    But my favorite place to watch from is Powow hill near my house (a mile from the New Hampshire border). There's a small park at the top, and on a clear day you can see Maine, the Atlantic, and halfway to Boston.

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    1. Strasbourg has a gorgeous Gothic cathedral and easy to get to from Bern by train. Edith, you're so lucky to worship in Meetinghouse from 1851; I imagine you can almost feel those earlier Friends around you. Powow Hill sounds lovely.

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    2. I do feel it. The walls are imbued with Spirit.

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  5. Wow, I never guessed the Bern Munster had such an intriguing history, not just historically but deepened and flavored by all the people who lived out their lives in such an eccentric place! I groaned out loud at the penalties of forgetting something on the grocery list, but that just makes me more eager to read Splintered Justice. It's that kind of imagining the nuts and bolts of setting a story in a particular place that brings the story alive for me, and I'm so excited to dig into this latest episode of your fine series! Congrats in advance, and I'll be awaiting your pub day, so I can share the good tidings far and wide!

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    1. Eek, I saw the "will be out in April 2025" in your bio, but when I nipped over to snap up a Kindle copy, I realized with a start that we're pretty much looking at April in our rear view mirrors. So thrilled that my gratification will be much more instantaneous! Will share the news soonest.

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    2. Thanks, Jonelle! I'm glad you're eager to read the book, and that your wish can be immediately granted!

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  6. Kim, so nice to see you at the top of the blog! I am always fascinated by the amount of research and the topics that authors pursue for their art! My synagogue is architecturally unusual, having been built in the early 1950's with a large round sanctuary. It isn't something that I know very much about but now I am curious.

    I read PESTICIDE, which I loved, last year and recently bought the next two books. They are winking at me from the top of my TBR pile. When I finish them, I plan to send them to my reading buddy in. Florida. She loved PESTICIDE, too. Good luck with book number four. It is on my TBR list.

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    1. Hi, Judy. I'm glad I made you curious about why your synagogue was built the way it was--sounds interesting. And it's lovely to hear you enjoyed Pesticide and have books 2 and 3 in your pile. All of us on this blog know about TBR piles, don't we? Nice to know you plan to pass the books on after reading.

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  7. Assisi Heights in Rochester, MN sits high on a hill overlooking the city. It was built in the Umbrian style of Assisi, Italy where Saint Francis is from. Retired nuns live there now. It wasn’t built until the 1950’s, but the Sisters of St. Francis have a long history with Rochester. After 3 deadly tornados hit the area on August 21, 1883, the Sisters of Saint Francis under Mother Mary Alfred Moes helped Dr. William Mayo and his two sons care for the injured. They realized Rochester was in need of a hospital and the Mayos and the Sisters joined together to form St. Marys Hospital which ultimately led to the creation of the Mayo Clinic.

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    1. Cool history, Brenda. I never knew that.

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    2. That's a good story, Brenda. I had no idea how the Mayo clinic started and that a group of Franciscan Sister were involved. Thanks for telling us about this special place where the retired nuns live.

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    3. Fascinating, Brenda! I had no idea!

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  8. Kim, how have I not yet read your books?! I must remedy quickly! Old cathedrals and churches always fascinate me. All the work and love and faith that goes into building them. I love visiting them, sitting in them and just deep breathing, admiring the work and history. Trinity Church in Boston, the Washington Cathedral in Washington, D.C. Norte Dame de Paris, Westminster Abbey, St. Paul’s in London…

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    1. Well, Suzette, I recommend starting with the first one, PESTICIDE, So you get to meet my detectives. Like you, I'm a great fan of visiting old churches when I travel. Occasionally, if I'm really lucky, the organist is practicing while I'm there.

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  9. Lisa in Long BeachApril 29, 2025 at 8:17 AM

    Looking forward to spending time with this duo again!

    The Queen Mary is the most interesting place here in Long Beach.

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    1. Glad you like my duo, although I have to warn you that Renzo gets more time than Giuliana in this book.

      By Queen Mary, do you mean the ship? I've never seen a giant passenger liner.

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    2. Sometimes balancing two detectives can be a challenge!

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    3. Ha! You should know, Debs! You've been doing it very well much longer than I have!

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  10. I have two thoughts today. First, the book sounds EXCELLENT and will definitely go on my TBR list!

    Second, I feel like an idiot for heretofore having not only missed the Linder and Donatelli books altogether, when they sound like exactly my kind of read, but not realized that the Kim Hays whose comments I see here all the time is the author of a book series that seems tailor made for me. I went back and did a search on the blog and I clearly see that earlier entries have been featured, only adding to my feeling like an idiot. But instead of looking back, I am now excitedly looking forward to a new series to enjoy!

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    1. It's so good, Susan! You are in for a treat as you get to binge all the books!

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    2. I thought the same thing, Susan, but now we know and have some great books to look forward to. Exciting indeed!

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    3. Please don't feel like an idiot, Susan. I'd be an idiot if I went on about my books when I posted here. I'm just glad you're looking forwa

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    4. ... forward to them! (I'm typing with one finger on my phone, so please forgive all typos. I didn't bring my computer on this Romanian vacation!)

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  11. Kim, I love cathedrals and your story about the Munster is so cool! I'll look for your books. My favorite cathedral is York Minster, which I have visited several times, as my dad was from Leeds.

    My son and I also took the train to San Francisco in 2013 when an artist in residence had installed a project called "Ribbons of Light" in Grace Cathedral. That was amazing.

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    1. Hello, Gillian. I haven't seen the York Minster in at least 15 years, but I remember that it's magnificent! That light show must have been spectacular.

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  12. What a fascinating story. I bet the church is beautiful - although I can't imagine walking that many stairs to my apartment.

    St. Paul's Cathedral in Pittsburgh is gorgeous, as is Our Lady of Victory Basilica in Lackawanna, NY.

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    1. Thanks, Liz! The Bern Münster really is special. It makes me sad to think that I was in Pittsburgh years ago to spend Thanksgiving with a college friend and never saw St. Paul's.

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  13. KIM: Congratulations on your new book!!

    And yes, stairs can be very healthy stepping. In Ottawa, I always lived in low rise apartment buildings with no elevators. No baby for me, but I remember having to carry my mountain bike on my shoulder up to my 3rd floor from 1998-2001! I only have 1 flight of stairs to the main building entrance of my current apt building in Ottawa.

    Like sone others, York Minster in England is my fave cathedral. I have visited it twice. And I also like Montreal's Notre Dame Basilica. Absolutely breath taking inside.

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    1. Hi, Grace, and thanks for the congrats! A mountain bike is much heavier than a six-month-old, so I'm impressed. Glad to have your tip about the church in Montreal.

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    2. Well, I was in my 30s back thrn so it wasn't a big deal. Now that I am almost 60, I find it hard to carry my bike up one flight of stairs, lol!

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  14. Why have I not realized that Kim Hays, the woman whose comments I read here, was also an author. I cannot wait to start this series.
    My favorite view was from the deck of our house in Highlands, NC, looking across a valley to a steep rock faced mountain and down the valley to trees and water. We have sold it but now I still have a view from my 15th floor condo in Atlanta and from my desk I can see the Catholic cathedral across the street (Peachtree) and a big white Baptist church across a side street and then down the way, the Episcopal cathedral on a hill. So I am surrounded by churches. One of my favorite things to watch are the red-tailed hawks flying around and they love to perch on the steeple of the Baptist church and spy their prey.
    When we travel, we love to visit churches and cemeteries. I have had the luck of being able to climb up to the roof of both Chartres and Notre Dame when I lived in France. Astounding views!

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    1. Hello, Anon! I'm delighted to introduce you to the Linder and Donatelli series. Your view of three denominations of churches plus red-tailed hawks sounds great. And I know how beautiful the mountain views are in Highland, NC, since my parents lived not too far away in Kings Mountain, and I visited there with them..

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  15. Hank Phillippi RyanApril 29, 2025 at 9:36 AM

    This is so wonderful, and you are just a wealth of fantastic information. Thank you thank you thank you for everything, and for being such a faithful friend of Jungle Red, too. I guess I have to say Chartres? When the sun comes through the windows… and the music is playing, I know it’s almost a cliché, but it’s transporting.

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    1. How kind you are, Hank! It's always a pleasure to be on JRW as a reader and commenter, or, once a year when one of my books comes out, as a writer.

      Chartres has fantastic stained glass, I remember that!

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  16. It is really hard to imagine living in that tower without running water. With a family, especially if babies were involved, even 200 years ago. I'll be thinking of that all day now. It must be so beautiful, though, both inside the soaring architecture, and the view out those nosebleed-level windows!

    Ste. Chappelle in Paris is my all-time favorite church, especially on a sunny day. An exquisite jewel box of a glorification of God. My childhood church in Hamilton, Ohio is no longer the spectacularly lovely place it was in the 1940's and 1950's, thanks to a tacky remodel, and then a devastating fire. When I was a child, though, I was fascinated by the massive and ornate marble altars, the soaring flying buttresses, and the painted and gilt-trimmed paintings on the ceiling and walls. The stained glass Stations of the Cross were not just decorative, but functional for praying at each one. My parents were married there and we have a photo of my mother walking down the aisle, taken from the choir loft.

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    1. That view from the Münster tower not only shows all of Bern and the surrounding countryside. On a clear day you also see the Bernese Alps spread across the horizon. So beautiful.

      Sad about your childhood church in Hamilton getting messed up, but it must be nice to think of your parents and their wedding whenever you are there!

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  17. Good morning from Texas, Kim! I love too many English churches and cathedrals to name, but I will mention one, Holy Trinity Sloane Square in London's Chelsea, sometimes referred to as the "Arts and Crafts" church. The stained glass by Burne-Jones in particular is spectacular and fits right in with the cover of Splintered Justice!

    As for local landmarks, I'd go with our town's town square. Mostly dating to the mid-nineteen hundreds--old by Texas standards if not by Swiss or English!--it is a big tourist draw and is filmed often for TV productions. McKinney in the 1850's was a metropolis compared to fledgeling Dallas, thirty miles to the south. It was the confluence of railroads and the cotton industry. McKinney had a cotton gin and a cotton mill and was the booming place to be. It's still a booming place to be, if not for quite the same reasons.

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    1. Hello, Debs, and thanks again for hosting me today. I never knew that McKinney, Texas, was an important town; that's interesting to learn.

      Believe it or not, there's a small Anglican Church in my Bern neighborhood for the Brits who lived there a hundred-plus years ago, and it has a stained glass window by Burne-Jones. I was astonished when I found out.

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  18. Kim, I am so happy to know that you have books that seem just right for me! Such a wonderful surprise. I just requested Pesticide from my library and am excited to start reading.

    Many years ago when I was in my early twenties I climbed to the top of Cape Hatteras lighthouse. There were only 5 minutes left until closing so I had to move very quickly. I had just enough time for a quick peek out and then went back down. For the next few days I could barely lift my leg. I just learned that there are 257 steps and it is the tallest lighthouse east of the Mississippi.

    In my house I have 14 steps to go up to the second floor, but I only go up a couple times each day. I think I'll try to go up and down more often and see if that improves my health.

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    1. So nice to hear you've requested my first mystery at the library, Judi. Thank you! Your story about running up and down the Cape Hatteras lighthouse steps is great, although I'm sorry you were in pain afterward. The worst day-after muscle pain I ever had wasn't from stairs. It was from bending over to pick strawberries for two hours. I could barely move the next day!

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  19. Fascinating! Of course it make sense that the church towers would have been a place from which lookouts could monitor approaching troops. Reading about your new book (congratulations, Kim!) got me thinking about Carnegie Hall and the (secret?) apartment above it. And the many church towers we climbed on trips to Europe. Especially in Italy and Belgiium, the views were spectacular.

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    1. Thanks for the congratulations, Hallie. I never knew Carnegie Hall had a secret apartment. Is it for famous musicians?

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  20. Kim, I am printing this out to enjoy reading at my coffee shop this morning - thanks!
    I read about a massive power outage in Portugal and Spain - here's to wishing our JRW readers from the affected areas a quick power come-back.

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    1. Hope you're enjoying your coffee as I write!

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  21. Happy book birthday, Kim. Never would have suspected that the church tower housed lookouts, or that the tradition would have continued for so long. I'd love to say a visit to the tower room is on my bucket list, but I think it would take me several days to scale the steps. What a great setting to spur creativity.

    When I was in high school, we were take to the Cathedral of St. John the Divine. It's an Episcopalian cathedral in the heart of New York City. Allegedly the largest cathedral in the world, the Gothic style masterpiece was begun in 1892 and is still incomplete. I sound like a tour guide, but the place fascinated me. I haven't been there since the 1960s, one of these days I'll make it back. The Cathedral was featured in Linda Fairstein's book, Silent Mercy.

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    1. If there's a truth about Switzerland, Kait, it's that the Swiss hang onto their traditions, good and bad. That's part of why they didn't give women the vote until 1971!!!

      I visit my uncle in New York City once a year, but I've never been to St. John the Divine. I am visiting it on my very next trip.

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  22. Happy Book Release Day, Kim!!! I love this fact about the church towers - I will never look at them the same again!

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  23. Kim, congratulations! So happy that your series is thriving and no wonder, with such fascinating research. I'd never have guessed an apartment in a church tower--too cool!

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    1. Thanks, Flora! I particularly enjoyed the time I spent with three glassmaker. He was a very skilled and kind man, and I learned a lot!

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  24. Thanks, Jenn. I guess now the only people employed to watch for fires are in forests.

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  25. Congratulations on your fourth book release, Kim! I’ll bet the excitement of a publication day never gets old. I’m thrilled to have another Polizei Bern book to read.

    I second Kait’s choice of the Cathedral of St. John the Divine as my favorite church because of its beautiful architecture. In the 1930s and ’40s the church trained young boys to be apprentice stonecutters. When we visited the Cathedral in the ‘90s, they were bringing trained stonecutters from Italy because there just weren’t any left here in the U.S.

    Kim, I hope you and your husband are enjoying your Romanian vacation! It was such a nice surprise to see you at the top of the blog. — Pat S

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    1. Hi, dear Pat. So nice to "talk" to you! Yes, publication day is always exciting, but what's really exciting this year is that I'm having a Swiss book launch on May 19 at the biggest and best known bookstore in Bern--first time they're supporting me!

      I think Switzerland still trains stonecutters, but my glassmaker friend said he gets fewer and fewer apprentices.

      Romania is wonderful. Amazing castles in Transylvania, beautiful churches (see, more churches!), gorgeous mountainous scenery, and nice people!

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  26. Congrats on your new release! I look forward to reading it. I stop by the Temple Church when I'm in London. I know Dan Brown wrote about it, and it's probably mentioned in the Rumpole books, but it never ceases to amaze and delight me.

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    1. Hi, Margaret, and thanks for the tip about the Temple Church. I'll be in London in September for my niece's wedding, so I'll have a chance to admire it then.

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  27. Kim what an amazing story! I loved hearing about it and will be interested to see how you work it into the book. congratulations!

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  28. Darn it, Kim! You've added to my TBR pile! It is teetering dangerously. So many churches and cathedrals are beautiful. We visited the Alhambra in Granada, Spain years ago and the Moorish architecture, water features, and courtyards are stunning.

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  29. My husband and I toured the Alhambra two years ago. I thought it was possibly the most beautiful complex of buildings I'd ever seen in my life.

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  30. In Portland, Oregon, the Pittock Mansion and Trinity Cathedral are favorites. In NYC, I love Trinity Wall Street, and in England, Canterbury Cathedral.

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    1. That's interesting, Gretchen. On my next trip to NYC, I'll have to visit Trinity Wall Street. Good tip!

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  31. Kim ~ You definitely win the award for stair-climbing 101 (!). Your past history of having to climb four flights of stairs while carrying a baby and stroller to when you "casually" mentioned you only have to climb 28 steps now is both astounding and impressive! When I married in 1978 I lived in my husband's 2-family childhood home on the second level. A quick estimate of stairs from sidewalk to top landing was at least 20 steps. There were many times I cursed those stairs especially on grocery shopping day or inclement weather. When we eventually retired and sold that home I was grateful that we had built a single-level condo with a garage that only required me to climb two stairs before stepping into the mud room entrance of our home. Yay! My cranky knees thank me daily. :-) Your detective series taking place in Bern, Switzerland sounds fascinating and at your suggestion I will begin with the first book in that series ~ "Pesticide". I also love that you have dual citizenship both in the States and the beautiful Country of Switzerland. I am always fascinated how married couples first met so I hope you share how you and your Swiss-born husband came to know each other and eventually married.
    Architecturally and historically, my two favorite buildings are located in New York City. The first one is The Woolworth Building built over a century ago and dubbed "the Cathedral of Commerce".It resembles a Neo-Gothic cathedral by design. It was the tallest skyscraper in NYC at 60 stories until 1930 when the Chrysler Building with its impressive Art Deco design was built. The inside entrance and lobby of The Woolworth Building left me gobsmacked when I first saw it. It's beautiful but ornate design is impossible to describe; photos are more descriptive. The top 30 stories (the tower) are now designated as being high-end luxury condos and the remaining 30 floors below the tower are commercial. It's registered as a National Historic Landmark. The other building I love in NYC is Saint Patrick's Cathedral not only for its architectural beauty but also for its rich history. Knowing how much I treasured this cathedral a friend of ours who was on St. Patrick's Board of Trustees at the time arranged a private tour with the then Monsignor Anthony Della Villa whose love for that beautiful cathedral was reflected in the renovations and upkeep he undertook while he was rector there. Monsignor was a well-loved priest and historian and I will always remember that time spent with him as we toured every inch of that magnificent church and we learned its rich and detailed history. We were also allowed to visit the crypt below the High Altar where the previous Archbishops of the Archdiocese of New York and one lay person, Pierre Toussaint, are buried. Pierre Toussaint's story is fascinating. The public is not usually granted access to the crypt so that part of the tour was both interesting and very emotional. My husband and I made a friend that day. The Monsignor gifted me with a beautiful piece of crystal with St Patrick's Cathedral lasered inside it. He knew I was employed in the science labs at Harvard University and so he asked me if I would send him a small supply of lens paper for his collection of vintage microscopes. I sent him a case...a lifetime supply. He also invited us to be a guest at St. Patrick's Midnight Mass the following year offering us a place in his family's seating section. Unfortunately, the Monsignor passed away suddenly a few years later while saying Mass at another church at only 63 years of age.

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    1. I'm glad you're impressed with my stair-climbing, Evelyn. Don't forget that in Switzerland, there are people over 70 who regularly walk up mountains. I'll stick with stairs!!

      What a special experience, touring St Patrick's Cathedral with the Monsignor. And thanks for reminding me about the Woolworth Building. I don't think I've ever been in the lobby.

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