HALLIE EPHRON: Today we're delighted to welcome back Leslie Karst. A one-time attorney, she spends half of her time in a place most of us would call paradise -- Hilo, Hawai‘i -- and that paradise inspires her murder mysteries.
Today she's celebrating the launch of Waters of Destruction (#2 Orchid Isle mystery), and it's a stunner. The germ of the idea came to her as she was gazing out her office window...
LESLIE KARST: My office window here in Hilo looks out toward the middle school gym behind the houses across the street, from which we hear at various times the thump of basket balls and squeak of sneakers, the rhythmic beat of taiko drumming, and the drone of a school administrator making an announcement over a tinny loudspeaker.
But a little ways behind the gym lies the Wailuku River, which makes its way from its source high upon the slopes of Maunakea, down between that dormant volcano and its sister, the active Mauna Loa, through Hilo, and out to the bay.
The Hawaiian word “wailuku” translates as “waters of destruction,” an apt name, since on average at least one person dies in the river each year. (The latest fatality was this past September.) Sure there are signs warning folks off, but the river often looks so calm and serene that many are tempted to take a dip, nevertheless.
What they don’t know is that beneath that calm surface lie hidden lava caves, which create dangerous currents that can suck a body down into the murky depths below. And once they’re trapped in one of those caves, the river is not generous about relinquishing its prize.
Stories abound of people disappearing under water, only to be spit back out days—or even weeks—later, at the whim of the river spirits.
Not only that, but flash floods caused by heavy rains in the mountains above—even when it’s sunny and clear in Hilo—can overcome the river at a moment’s notice, with no time to seek the safety of the land above.
Locals know that when they see the orange county helicopter flying up and down the Wailuku River, that means trouble.
So when I was at my desk about two years back working on what was to become Molten Death, the first in my Orchid Isle mystery series, and I spied that very helicopter behind the school gym—hovering in one place, a long rope dangling from its belly—I said to myself, “Uh-oh.”
Sure enough, they pulled a body out of the river that very afternoon. (An event which I thankfully did not witness, but read about in the paper the following day.)
So, so sad, was my thought.
But—I have to admit—the mystery author in me also said, “Ah-ha! I think I’ve just come up with the premise for book two in the series.”
The destructive waters in this new book, however, are not merely those of the Wailuku River.
Brainstorming the idea, I realized that that “waters” could also apply to alcohol.
My protagonist, Valerie Corbin, who has just bought a house in Hilo with her wife Kristen at the start of Waters of Destruction, had conveniently been learning the ropes as a bartender before moving from Los Angeles to the Big Island.
So it hit me that having her take up bartending once more in Hilo—and including a subplot about a recovering alcoholic who’s gone AWOL from the restaurant—would add another layer to the “waters of destruction” theme.
And then I remembered the paddling class my wife Robin and I had taken here some years back. I’d been captivated by beauty of being out in the middle of the Hilo Bay, with sea birds soaring above and turtles, fish, and whales (yes, one once surfaced only a hundred yards from our canoe) below. And how exhilarating was it to dig our paddles into the water as one, the salt spray splashing upon our faces and arms as the craft skimming speedily across the water.
Yes, I decided. Including this as well in the the book would be perfect. For although beautiful, the ocean of course contains many perils of her own....
Readers: Have you ever been to the Hilo or to the Big Island—or perhaps another part of Hawai‘i? Did you engage in an “water” activities—be they actual water or perhaps those with alcoholic spirits in them?
Comment for a chance to win a copy of Waters of Destruction! (US residents only.)
About Waters of Destruction:
After a vacation of a lifetime in Hilo, Hawai‘i, retired caterer Valerie Corbin and her wife Kristen have decided to move permanently to the beautiful – if storm-prone – Big Island. The couple are having fun furnishing their new house, exploring their new neighborhood and playing with their new little dog, Pua. But while they’ve made good friends with local restaurant manager Sachiko and her partner Isaac, they can’t help but feel a little lonely. So when Sachiko begs Val to fill in for a member of her bar team who’s gone AWOL, Val dusts off her cocktail shaker and happily agrees. It’s a great chance to meet more people – and learn the local gossip.
Such as about Hank, the missing bartender, who vanished after a team-building retreat at a local beauty spot a week ago, and hasn’t been seen since. Until, that is, his body turns up at the bottom of the waterfall, and the police seem very interested in where Sachiko was at the time of his death. Sachiko couldn’t have killed him . . . could she? Val dives into the murky waters of the case, determined to find out.
About Leslie: Leslie Karst is the Lefty Award-nominated author of the Orchid Isle Mysteries Waters of Destruction and Molten Death, of the Sally Solari culinary mysteries, and of the IBPA Ben Franklin and IPPY award silver medal-winning memoir Justice is Served: A Tale of Scallops, the Law, and Cooking for RBG. When not writing, you’ll find her cooking, cycling, gardening, and observing cocktail hour promptly at five o’clock. Leslie and her wife and their Jack Russell mix split their time between Hilo, Hawai‘i and Santa Cruz, California. Leslie blogs with Chicks on the Case and Mystery Lovers’ Kitchen, and you can also find her at LeslieKarstAuthor.com. Author Photo: Robin McDuff
Congratulations, Leslie, on the new book . . . this sounds like a captivating story.
ReplyDeleteYes, we enjoyed a trip to Hawai'i many years ago . . . aside from a tentative [and brief] step into the ocean, our only "water" activity was "swimming" with the dolphins . . . .
Swimming with dolphins definitely counts--how fun!
DeleteCongratulations again, Leslie! The paddling class sounds super fun - have you been back for more paddling? What a scary river - gives me the shivers. We have a small lake nearby fed by a river that comes down from New Hampshire. It's never good when you hear a helicopter circling.
ReplyDeleteI've only been on planes that stopped in Hawai'i for refueling on the way to and from Japan many decades ago, but we couldn't leave the airport. One of these years I will come visit you and Robin! You know I love a cocktail as much as you do, and I vicariously enjoy your pictures of happy hour in Hilo at sunset.
I've been out with a friend in his OC2 (2-person outrigger canoe), but not for some years now. The paddling season is summer, when we're in California, which makes it difficult.
DeleteAnd yes, do come visit and we'll have some of Val's cocktails from the book!
Congratulations, Leslie and happy book birthday! The paddling class sounds like fun!
ReplyDeleteMany years ago we visited Hawaii with family. We went to the Big Island and it rained half of the time we were there, One day when the sun came out, we took a glass boat tour where we could watch the sea life under our glass boat. It was like a regular boat with glass at the middle of the bottom. We could sit around the glass area and watch the sea life below.
I've seen those glass-bottom boats, but never gone out in one--sounds fun! And yes, we do get our fair share of rain, especially in Hilo!
DeleteAloha, Leslie! And congratulations on the new book. Thinking about that diabolically treacherous river gives me shivers.
ReplyDeleteIt would be lovely to visit Hilo again, if only in literature. My husband and I went around the time of our 25th anniversary--we just celebrated our 43rd, so that was a while back. You'll understand this when I say I was at first disappointed to land on the Big Island, after a couple days on Kauai. Going from an utterly glorious paradise to the volcanic lunar landscape around the airport was a rude shock! Of course, once we drove to our hotel in Kona I relaxed. We spent a couple nights there, then drove the saddle road over to Hilo for a couple more nights.
The last full day we were there my husband took a helicopter ride over the lava fields, to take video footage for an educational film he was making at the time, and I rented my own car to explore. I drove partway around the island, marveling at driving through a rainforest just a mile long, then through other unique climate zones, and at one point I saw a whale spouting off the coast, all on my lonesome. The only water experience I had was to find a beautiful waterfall that I later took my husband to see. We were just talking about going back someday. What a wonderful place to live!
Karen, one day we need to meet this amazing husband of yours... so many interesting aspects. Maybe he'd consider a "trip" to the front of the blog?
DeleteOooh, great idea, Hallie! Karen's husband is so talented!
DeleteYes, landing in Kona for the first time is always a shock, seeing the lunar surface of black lava fields, lol. But as you say, there's so much diversity of climate on the Big Island, from wet and tropical, to dry desert, to frigid cold atop Maunakea. So glad you got to experience it in full!
DeleteWelcome Leslie, this sounds like an exciting read, and what fun to hear about where all the plot strands came from! We were in Hilo a long time ago, 25 years?, and found it stunning--my favorite part of Hawaii. I couldn't get over the story about the tsunami wiping out a low section of town. Another water of destruction...
ReplyDeleteJerry and I were in Hilo before my one and only visit to Left Coast Crime... years ago. I adored Hilo. It felt like "old Hawaii" the way some of towns in Florida still have that old-timey feeling. The flowers!! Oh my, the flowers. It was lovely. We're birders so that aspect of the trip was disappointing since most of the birds that were once common in that part of the world are few and far between.
ReplyDeleteYes, I forgot about the flowers! The minute you step out of the plane you can smell them. And the air just has a different feel to it, soft and gentle, somehow.
DeleteAll the Darwin birds look so much alike, too, and because they're so specialized to specific flowers they're very localized. It was frustrating.
Yes, the two tsunamis of 1946 and 1960 alas decimated the village of Shinmachi down by the ocean in Hilo. After 1960, they left the area free of buildings, and it's now park land and soccer fields.
DeleteAs for the native birds, it's mosquitoes (which carry the avian virus) that have mostly killed them off, so they only live at altitudes above about three-to four thousand feet where it's too cold for the skeeters. But if you ever return, I know several places to go where you'll get to see the native birds!
Leslie, this series sounds like one I will really enjoy, so first I'll get book #1. Congratulations on your latest, it's going right onto my TBR.
ReplyDeleteEver since seeing the film South Pacific as a youngster, I have heard the islands calling me. (I know now that those were different islands.) My chance came when my son was spending his junior year in Japan. We could meet him in Hawaii and have two weeks hopping from island to island with our son. I have dozens of fond memories and hilarious stories from our adventures. The Big Island was the third stop and our room was high up in a hotel overlooking a bay that was just full of wildlife. Whales and dolphins sprayed and breeched below our balcony. It was February and whales were everywhere in the waters surrounding the islands. My husband still jokes with me when we are near any large body of water asking if I see a whale. I was very good at spotting them.
Alas, we did not get to Hilo. There was so much to see and do for first time visitors. We saw many postings for dangerous waters around the islands and were careful and respectful of the warnings. The fact that at the time, we were all physically capable of participating in some of the delightful activities available on the islands was a true blessing. My next trip to the Big Island will be in your books.
I'm so jealous! All those whales and dolphins!!
Delete"South Pacific" was actually filmed on Kauai, and you can visit many of the locations they used in the film. I love the story of all the whales and dolphins, Judy--how fun that must have been!
DeleteCongratulations, Leslie. I've never been to Hawai'i. I don't know if I want to be on a plane that long!
ReplyDeleteI hear you, Liz--I only went to the Caribbean once, for the same reason!
DeleteOne of my strongest memories of Hawaii was the airport -- there were LOOOOONG lines and all our luggage got checked. They're serious about not wanting to inadvertently "export" or "import" non-native species.
ReplyDeleteHallie, that reminds of the time I was at the airport in Oahu waiting to fly home. When got to the counter I was told the flight was delayed until the next day. I was actually ecstatic. My young daughter and I got free transport to a lovely free hotel and three meals paid for. Who wants to go home when you can spend an extra day in paradise!
DeleteHa ha! I had a layover like that once in Florida and my poor kids were left at home to deal with a blizzard. They have never gotten over it.
DeleteYes, they really don't want any more invasive critters coming in (like the mosquitoes, fire ants, coquí frogs, the list goes on....)
DeleteCongrats Leslie, I love your previous books and look forward to this new one and I've enjoyed your other books. I love all the islands for different reasons.
ReplyDeleteThe Big Island is so vast and the volcanoes are amazing an island that so beautiful and a wonderful place to live. Maui is pretty, of course it is - it's Hawaii!
But, I love Oahu because it is so diverse in its people and geography. The north shore is lush with the biggest and best surfing probably in the world - then around Honolulu the history of all the islands really comes into focus with the Iolani Palace where the kings & queens of Hawaii lived, the Bishops Museum, etc. The flowering plants are everywhere and the smells of ginger, plumeria, pikake, and the beauty of orchids. And there are more SE Asians and native Hawaiian communities which makes for wonderful Chinese, Japanese, and Hawaiian restaurants everywhere. I love Hanauma Bay on Oahu - it has the best reef snorkeling.
Kauai - for those who have been it is magical, with half the island being massive jungles, waterfalls. It's like going back in time to an older time. And Hanalei is spectacular.
I love Hanauma Bay on Oahu - it has the best reef snorkeling.
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DeleteYes, I love to visit O'ahu--even Waikiki is fun (for a day or two at most), as it's so beautiful! (Your descriptions of the islands are just beautiful, by the way!)
DeleteCongratulations, Leslie! the new series sounds very fun. I went to Hawai'i in the mid '90s for a Quaker wedding--of my friend Danae and her then-partner Christina. I had to look up the history, but gay marriage was legal in Hawai'i from 1993 to 1998. I remember Portland's Fallen Angel choir singing an earworm, "We're going to Hawai'i and we're gonna get married". I'm sure you remember the history better than I do. Anyway, we were there for a week and went snorkling in Hanauma Bay, drove up to the Polynesian Cultural Center, swam in the ocean and generally had a great time. The wedding was beautiful and amazing. It was my first experience of Quaker practice and Hawaiian music, and of course my first gay wedding.
ReplyDeleteAncient Hawaiian culture has a tradition of the "mahu"--literally, those "in between" sexes, so to speak, which is now often translated as "gay." How fun to get to your friends' wedding there back then!
DeleteHello, Leslie, and congratulations on your second book in this series. Imagine paddling near a whale! I'd be so excited. Yes, my husband and I were in Hawaii about twelve years ago and spent time on Oahu, Maui, Kauai, and the Big Island. Highlights were visiting different botanical gardens and snorkeling. For two people who live in land-locked Switzerland, it was magical.
ReplyDeleteWe have an amazing tropical botanical garden here in Hilo, which I always recommend to visitors. And yes, very different from Switzerland, lol!
DeleteWhat a terrific idea! And no, I have never been then, but now I know what to watch out for! Cannot wait to read this... (and my white water rafting on the Chattooga was fabulous, but quite scary enough..)
ReplyDeleteHa! Yes, white water rafting can be pretty darn scary--but so fun! I'm actually quite risk averse, but in general the paddling was not that daunting, thank goodness.
DeleteCaution when traveling to Hawaii. My sister went with her two college room mates from Oregon State to Oahu. There she met a guy at a disco club (this was in the 70's), fell in love and told her room mates to pack up her stuff and ship it to Hawaii - she was moving in with her "new" boyfriend. Yikes - my parents were furious as she had a month before graduation. Fast forward, they are married with two grown daughters and two grandchildren. And a beautiful home overlooking the ocean.
ReplyDeleteHa! I love this story! So glad it all worked out!
DeleteHaving been to Hawai'i several times, I understand both the dangers of the ocean water and the dangers of the other kinds of "water" (there's no hangover like that after too many tropical rum drinks on a sunset cruise.)
ReplyDeleteMy scariest (and most fun) river experience was white water rafting on the Zambizi River below Victoria Falls. The rapids are up to class 5, which was way higher than I had experienced rafting here in New England. I got tossed off the raft before we'd left the mooring, which was an excellent reminder the hang on tight for the rest of the ride.
Yikes, that sounds scary, Julia! But I bet it was glorious, once you got the hang (literally) of it. And I agree about those sweet cocktail hangovers--ugh!
DeleteCongratulations, Leslie, on the publication of Waters of Destruction! Thanks for the back story of your inspiration for the plot.
ReplyDeleteI have been to the Big Island three times, once as a teenager with my family, the second time on my honeymoon and the third time with my family including our five year-old-at-the-time son. The first trip we visited Volcanoes National Park and walked out on the lava to look into the caldera of Kilauea Volcano. (You couldn’t do that today - for safety reasons and the volcano has been very active since then. Read Leslie’s book Molten Death to see how active!) Our second visit we stayed in Keahou and saw the “honu” (Pacific Green Sea Turtles) on the sand of the Keahou Bay. My husband went snorkeling in the bay with turtles swimming by him! Our most recent (2003) visit we took a small plane tour over the volcano. Guess it’s time we visit again! — Pat S
Your trips sound fabulous, Pat! Yes, the volcano has been extremely active of late--fountaining 1,000 feet high just last week! So glad you got to see honu; they are so beautiful and serene.
DeleteIve never been to Hawaii. Years ago I had a two week cruise planned with a group of friends and I was so excited. However, the day we were to leave, the cruise line canceled our trip. I was so disappointed and haven't had the desire to go Hawaii since. I'm not into water sports even though I live really close to Michigan. I do like going to the beach and go there whenever I can.
ReplyDeleteDang. I'm so sorry about the cancelled cruise. I hope some day you do get to come visit; there are many things to do and see here that don't involve dangerous water activities!
DeleteHi Leslie!!! You know how much I loved the first book in the series, and I can't wait to read this one!! How fun that you've got Valerie bartending. Next time I see you and Robin, we are definitely having cocktails!
ReplyDeleteI have not been to Hawaii, unfortunately (I alway seem to be flying east, rather than west) but my husband spent several months there when he was in his twenties. He loved it and has lots of tales about surfing and sailing and swimming--and cockroaches, lol!
Ha! Yes, the cockroach is our unofficial state bug. (Though thankfully, we don't have too many at our house.) And cocktails together sounds simply fab, my dear! Perhaps I can whip up one of Val's specialties!
DeleteLESLIE: Congratulations on WATERS OF DESTRUCTION! You know I enjoyed reading both books in this series.
ReplyDeletei visited Hilo once after Kailua-Kona LCC in 2009. I remember taking the "free" bus and was fascinated by seeing the different Koppen climate zones on that journey. And I did the optional sunset tour to add "arctic" climate zone on tbat trip.
Two visits to O'ahu, one fir Honolulu LCC in 2017 & another solo vacation in 2019.
Loved the food, the farmers markets, the different vibe on the North Shore (& their food from the shrimp trucks).And visiting the Pearl Harbor memorial was eerily quiet & sobering.
Next time you're on the Big Island, we'll have to go on a local food tour together, my dear foodie twin!
DeleteGRACE: my husband is not a seafood guy, but the shrimp trucks won him over. He insisted we go twice during our last trip to the North Shore.
DeleteYAY, Leslie!!! You know how much I loved MOLTEN!!! Delighted to have another Orchid Isle Mystery on deck. I love Hawaii - I've enjoyed Oahu and Maui and hope to get to the Big Island on my next visit! Brilliant multiple uses of water, btw.
ReplyDeleteYou have to visit the Big Island next time you come to Hawai'i so we can hang out together! (And enjoy all the different varieties of water, lol.)
DeleteI was 7 months pregnant when I went to the Big Island in 1994. I was not able to enjoy either type of waters at that time. I did enjoy what came out of the water. I was introduced to ONO fish. After the first time, I had to eat it everyday. I did enjoy helicoptering over the volcano, seeing the orchids, and the many water falls. It was a beautiful place. Diane Richardson
ReplyDeleteOno is the best--so glad you at least got to enjoy that while you were here!
DeleteMy husband and I went to Hawaii for our deferred honeymoon on our one year anniversary and loved it. We decided it made sense to go back frequently as long as we were living in California since the flight was short. 33 years later, we are still going. Hawaii is my favorite, Kauai my husband’s. Our most dangerous water adventure was sharing a tandem kayak on Kauai - it almost ended in divorce. We learned it is best for us to kayak solo.
ReplyDeleteOh, my, I can only imagine what that kayak adventure must have been like! Oy! Here's to solo adventuring that keeps peace within the couple!
DeleteWe booked a cruise to the islands (Oahu, Maui, Kauai, Kona, Hilo and the Big Island) that also included a three-day land tour of Oahu where we witnessed the commemoration of the 75th anniversary of Pearl Harbor. (December 7, 2016). The Road to Hana was beautiful (counting waterfalls) although frightening! It was exciting walking through the Nahuku / Thurston lava tubes at the Volcano National Park. LESLIE: Now, that would be a curious venue to include in one of your murder mystery novels! My favorite food was the golden pineapple at the Dole pineapple plantation. The Honolulu Cookie Company is my top resource when friends or family need a hug. My husband and I need to return for a visit and this time to just sit on the beach to enjoy the view and sample the local food and drinks! LESLIE: I WILL BE ADDING YOU TO MY TBR PILE SHORTLY AND THAT IS WHAT I LOVE ABOUT THIS GROUP! Thank You! Alicia Kullas
ReplyDeleteThank you so much, Alice! And yes, the Thurston Lava Tube would be a great place to set a murder, lol! (Though it would be tough to get away with it, given all the tourists that traipse through there daily.) Gotta try that golden pineapple!
DeleteLeslie, when I fell in love with Key West back in 2007, while my daughter lived there for a year, I wanted a good mystery series set there. And, viola, along comes Lucy and gives me a great series in the Key West Food Critic Mysteries. I also love the Hawaii I've seen so far, which includes the island of Moloka'i as well as Oahu, and wished for a mystery series set in Hawaii I would be interested in. And, now I've found your Orchid Isle mysteries, and I'm delighted. Now that I'm reading again (after being unable to for almost two years following my son' death), I'm ordering your two books right away. I do hope to visit your island if or when I return. I also want to visit a couple of others.
ReplyDeleteMy visit to the island of Moloka'i was a result off me previously reading Alan Brennert's Moloka'i, set in the 1890s and early 20th century. It is the story of a five--year-old girl who gets sent to Kalaupapa leper colony on the island off Moloka'i. Daughter of Moloka'i came out more recently. I've also read his book Honolulu, which features Korean young women who come to marry men wanting wives in Honolulu. Anyway, I took an eight passenger plane to the Kalaupapa side of Moloka'i, and we rode an old school bus to Father Damien's church, where the lepers attended church. We ate lunch up the road from the church at a small park overlooking a magical scene of ocean and a small mini-island. I found out that the sea cliffs of Moloka'i on the side where we flew in are the highest in the world. Now, the two sides of the Moloka'i Island are divided by a mountain (actually they're volcano shields). Moloka'i is actually what's left of two ancient volcanoes. Your choices of getting to the other side from Kalaupapa are to ride donkey or hike. Kaunakakai is the small town on the other side, and there is one hotel, Hotel Moloka'i. Tourist development is not welcome, but there is supposed to beautiful beaches and scenery. (Sorry I got carried away with Moloka'i.)
Back to Oahu, I thoroughly enjoy Honolulu, but the North Shore is my favorite spot, with the surfing competitions and the shrimp trucks and the town of Haleiwa and Waimea Bay and the turtles laying their eggs and Ted's Bakery. I love driving through the mountains on Oahu and Hanauma Bay and so much more. I love the little bar on the second floor of the building across from the zoo where I can sit and look out at the beach and the ocean. OK, I'm through for now. I gotta get those books.
Your descriptions are so beautiful, Kathy. Thank you. I've always wanted to visit Moloka'i. A friend of my mom's was born there and always told such marvelous stories of the island. Some day... And I'm so happy you're able to read again, my dear! Aloha.
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