DEBORAH CROMBIE: Here at JRW we all adore Catriona McPherson for her wonderful Scottish historical mysteries and her clever contempory California mysteries, not to mention her wit, kindness, and charm. But I'll add something else to the list--I think Catriona is a secret time traveler and that she's really lived in post-war Edinburgh, because when I read her new series featuring welfare officer Helen Crowther, I would swear Catriona has a direct line to the past. If you missed the first book, In Place of Fear, rectify that immediately! And now Helen Crowther is back with a new adventure, (and more wonderful Edinburgh dialect that I wish Catriona could demonstrate for us.)
Catriona says:
My working title for The Edinburgh Murders was Next to Godliness. I’m really bad at titles, I know, but it did make some kind of sense because it opens with Helen Crowther, a welfare officer attached to a doctor’s surgery in one of the poorest bits of Edinburgh, squashed into a cubicle at the public baths, helping Mrs Hogg – a lady of some stature – to wash.
“I like a guid hard scrub, Nelly,” Mrs Hogg says. “Dinnae be
tickling me.”
(I should say here that there’s a glossary in the book,
although guid and dinnae aren’t too hard to interpret, right?
Also, the glossary is at the front this time. In Book 1 – In Place of Fear
– the glossary was tucked away at the back and a lot of people did a lot of
googling before they found it. Oops.)
PIC 1 - jacket
The building where this scene takes place is still there, as are lots of the public baths in Edinburgh, but only the swimming pool is now in use. Even by the time I was getting on the bus with my rolled-up towel, the private bathing cubicles on the gallery level of these establishments had been swept away or repurposed as changing rooms.
PIC 2 – ceiling of baths.
This explains me always wondering why swimming pools were
even called “baths” in the first place. But I was a wee girl.
Improvements in domestic plumbing don’t explain why one book group I talked to last
year were enchanted to “discover” that
Scotland, like Japan, has communal ablutions. “No,” I explained. “It’s just
that poor people didn’t have bathrooms at home in the late 40s.” Stunned silence from them. Stunned silence
from me. I mean, it was in a very swanky Sacramento neighbourhood this book
club, but surely some of the women had grandparents who boiled kettles and
filled tin baths in front of the fire? I clearly remember Oprah Winfrey
recounting how horrified she was the first time she was shown an indoor loo. “I
can’t do that inside someone’s house!” tiny Oprah whispered. D’awww.
I didn’t wondered why the public baths had such soaring
ceilings, though, or if I did I probably thought it was for the acoustics –
there’s nothing like the earsplitting sound of fifty children shrieking
repeatedly in a glass cathedral. If I hadn’t come across this next photograph,
I would never have worked it out:
PIC 3 – acrobats
Yep, it was an aerial gym, with water landing laid on for
the over-confident. Water or shrieking wee kid landing, I suppose. They
were very different times. In any case, it was a feature of all Victorian baths
to be over the top; the Turkish baths in Harrogate are like something from the
Arabian Nights. I haven’t got any photos of the inside because the steam would
wreck my phone, but check it out here.
I spent the happiest hours of my otherwise miserable
academic career in those Turkish baths, stark naked, with my head of dept,
Prof. Katie Wales (renowned James Joyce expert who also wrote a Mickey Mouse
joke book), and our other women colleagues, a long way from the stuffy School
of English where tweedier co-scholars sipped sherry during classes (I’m not
kidding) and never wrote any joke books at all. Coincidentally, Harrogate is
the setting for England’s best known crime-writing jamboree – Theakston’s
Old Peculier Festival – and Val McDermid once overheard something in the
steam room that would make your eyebrows curl. (I couldn’t possibly repeat it
here. (But DM me.))
PIC 4 – At Harrogate with Ali Karim
This is my favourite of many Theakston’s Festival pictures,
because I can never decide if I’m looking at Ali Karim thinking “Come live with
me and be my love” or “I’m going to kill you with my shoe”.
All of which is to say, if you like the sound of a boiled
man in a bathtub and a return trip to the scene of the crime with three grubby
wee kids and a nit comb, then The Edinburgh Murders might be for you,
and please comment to be entered into a giveaway for a signed hardback. If you
can’t think of anything you’d like to read about less . . . I get it. I started
life in a family of six with one bathroom, shared bathwater and no shower. Now,
after fifteen years in America with a master bath off my bedroom, and two
basins in it so I don’t even see the toothpaste spills of my own husband . . . I’m
ruined forever.
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Edinburgh, 1948: Welfare Officer Helen Crowther has enough on her plate between her hectic job, her complicated love life, and her growing reputation as a troublemaker. Last year’s scandal did nothing to help with the disapproval she already gets as a woman in her line of work.
All she wants now is to focus
on doing what she loves: helping the poor of the Fountainbridge ward in the
city of Edinburgh. The last thing she needs is another string of murders to
distract her . . .
But when a gentleman
dressed in working-man’s clothing winds up dead right under Helen’s nose, and
she catches her own father in a very risky lie, Helen is propelled back into
the dark world where class rules, justice is hard to come by and gruesome death
is everywhere.
Helen has already learned
some hard truths about her city, but this investigation is about to reveal just
how deep corruption can go . . .
Serial awards-botherer, Catriona McPherson (she/her) was born in Scotland and immigrated to the US in 2010. She writes: preposterous 1930s private-detective stories about a toff; realistic 1940s amateur-sleuth stories about an oik; and contemporary psychothriller standalones. These are all set in Scotland with a lot of Scottish weather. She also writes modern comedies about a Scot-out-of-water in a “fictional” college town in Northern California. Catriona is a proud lifetime member and former national president of Sisters in Crime. www.catrionamcpherson.com
And that somehow when I lived in Edinburgh my ex neglected to introduce me to the public baths, which I now think was a grave ommision.
Stop in to say "hi" to Catriona and comment to be eligible for a signed copy of THE EDINBURGH MURDERS!
Congratulations on your new book [and the new series], Catriona . . . I have to admit that the aerial gym in the public baths made me laugh!
ReplyDeleteSomehow or other I've managed to miss your first Helen Crowther Mystery; I'm off to the bookstore today to remedy that as this sounds like an intriguing series and I'm really looking forward to meeting Helen . . . .
Thank you so much, Joan. I do hope you enjoy making Helen's acquaintance. And remember that glossary - at the back in book one!
DeleteCatriona, if I hadn't traveled all over England starting in the 1970s, I would find your reports of 20th century families not having bathrooms and indoor loos completely unbelievable.
ReplyDeleteYes, Becky, my first trip to England was in 1976, and I was shocked to see that some people still used outhouses. And I can guarantee from people I sat next to on public transportation that once a week baths were still a thing.
DeleteWhat can I say except sorry? Yes, in 1976, my dad was just building the extension to our house that had a shower and a second loo in it. He knew what was coming as four daughters headed towards their teenage years!
DeleteMy sister who is 5 years older than me remembers using the outhouse on my grandparents’ farm in Iowa, but they had indoor plumbing as far back as I can remember.
ReplyDeleteI suppose they bathed in a tub in the kitchen with water heated on the stove too. My sister was born in 1957.
At my other grandparents’ house in town my grandpa was not allowed to use grandma’s tub in the upstairs bathroom. When he came home from work at the blacksmith shop it was straight to the basement for a shower in the big white clawfoot tub with a shower head on exposed pipes.
Now I live in luxury in a master bathroom that has two sinks and a walk-in shower. The shower alone is bigger than entire bathrooms I have had previously.
I, too, need to rectify not having read your books. They are my cuppa tea.
Thank you, Brenda! I've still sort of got an outhouse today. Well, it's at the back door, off the scullery/laundry room and the door between it and the garden/yard never gets closed in the summer because we've got swifts nesting in there. So then bees make mud nests too and no doubt all manner of nocturnal creatures check it out. I'm glad possums can't use cat flaps. Or snakes, heaven knows!
DeleteCatriona, congratulations on your latest book. Why haven't I read In Place of Fear yet? This series sounds perfect for me. I love historical mysteries set around that time. My TBR is out of control but I must slip that in near the top!
ReplyDeleteMy husband and I spent several days in Edinburgh on a vacation a few years ago. We did all kinds of touristy things but didn't know about public baths. They seem like an excellent setting for tragedy, comedy and horror.
Thank you for sharing that tidbit about your upbringing. It explains a lot. A kid raised in a large family often develops an incredibly sharp sense of humor. My dad was the oldest of six and boy, did he have a bead on each of his siblings. You have a gift for funny! I am excited about this series.
Judy, you will love it! I've seldom read anything with such a strong sense of place.
DeleteThank you Judy - and Deb. I'm the youngest of the sisters and I think I spent my early years trying to catch up. Also, just yesterday I got an edit note back on a draft asking whether the heroine would really go along so readily with her bossier friend's suggestion and I thought the editor is definitely not someone who was trained by a pack of big sisters!
DeleteHi Catriona, congratulations on your new novel in your new series set in Edinburgh. I remember hearing your Scottish accent when I met you in person. I remember asking you if you had an accent. Learning how to hear again with my cochlear implants is quite a challenge.
ReplyDeleteLoved my visits to Edinburgh. I always feel like I travel back in time when visiting Edinburgh. I cannot recall if my accommodations included a shared bathroom or an en-suite bathroom. I cannot remember why I didn’t want to stay in an hotel.
Debs, I do not recall seeing the public baths in Edinburgh though I remember the Roman baths in Bath, England.
Oh, the Roman baths are something else, Diana!
DeleteThank you, Diana. The public baths all over Edinburgh don't really stand out - they're just another lot of the stone-built Victorian hulks - libraries, schools, baths, meeting rooms. I get what you mean about the time-travel aspect. It certainly makes research easier when everything's still there!
DeleteWelcome Catriona, this is hilarious. It's definitely 'come with me and be my love'!!
ReplyDeleteAli might prefer defending himself from my shoe, tbh!
DeleteI can't wait to read the new book! I might have to give In Place of Fear a reread to prepare.
ReplyDeleteI've still never been to anywhere in Scotland, but I do love public baths. We had a shower at home in Japan fifty years ago, but I loved walking to the baths and soaking among women from eight months to eighty. My experience getting a "guid hard scrub" from a woman in the Moroccan baths was divine.
That quote from Oprah - OMG. My sister's former partner, born in 1951, grew up a farm boy in the Quebec countryside. His family had the washtub and the Saturday night baths, and an outhouse, too. Not so far removed.
Edith, you would love Scotland. The Japanese baths sound lovely.
DeleteAlso, that same sister and Pierrot were beekeepers together in the eighties and lived the first two years in a small house in the country with no running water and an outhouse. One summer day when I was visiting and Pierrot was out, a big rainstorm began. We grabbed the soap and (natural) shampoo and took showers outside in the pouring rain!
DeleteThank you, Edith. I've never been to Japan but the Turkish baths in Harrogate have got their own doughty band of "guid hard scrub" ladies.
DeleteOuthouse memories from my grandparents’ farm in Michigan still scare me 60 some years later. My late sister and cousins loved to threaten to lock me in and overturn the outhouse. Of course, as adults they said it was just a bit of fun!
ReplyDeleteYour “new” character sounds like fun. I need to catch up with this series!
Right? There's no way none of the posh ladies at that book club didn't have family lore like this. Maybe they didn't want to admit it in front of the other posh ladies.
DeleteOh Catarina, I am rushing out to get “In Place of Fear” today! I love the photos. Not having indoor plumbing, or sharing a loo with other apartments on he same floor isn’t’ surprising to me, although I’m glad to have always had indoor plumbing. I’m looking forward too reading “The Edinburgh Murders”. My husband and I will be in Edinburgh and West Dunbartonshire the week after next (only a week but better than no time) and I’ll be thinking of your books!
ReplyDeleteThese books will be great preparation, Suzette!
DeleteBon voyage, Suzette. Right then, if you are in the New Town (building commenced 1767, so not that new, right?) you will be a minute's stroll from both the Glenogle Baths, where that trapeze photo was taken and from the Stockbridge colonies, which are the prettiest versions of Helen's kind of house in the city. (Her actual house and the place she works are there too but not in such a handy spot.)
DeleteCheers, Catriona! How did I not know you have a new series?? This is a serious oversight, my Sister!
ReplyDeleteCan't wait to meet Helen, what a treat. And how did you decide to write about welfare officerdom? Love the background on the public baths; what an experience that must be. The closest I've known of here was the YMCA in my hometown in the 1950-60's. The men and boys swam nude, and there was a curtain across the window from the public area of the Y so inquisitive young girls like moi could not satisfy their curiosity, more's the pity.
I was born in 1951, family of six, one bathroom, and shared bathwater, as well. My mother put Cheer, a powdered laundry detergent, in the bathwater, so it's a miracle any of us had skin at all. As the oldest, I think I was the last one in (of the four kids), alas. Traveling around the world, I have visited many versions of the outhouse I was first introduced to in high school on a school picnic. The most terrifying was the one at the airfield in Kenya, which was surrounded by razor wire to keep the leopards out. Reportedly.
Yes, I want to know that, too. It's such an interesting job and she's such an interesting character.
DeleteOMG on the Cheer, Karen! Okay, here's how it happened: I wanted to write about the post-war period and I wanted a working-class heroine (much as I love Dandy and her butler). So I settled on the birth of the NHS in 1948 as an interesting background to book one, emblematic of a lot of the social change going on right then. Casting around for a job my tenement kid could do that would take her out and about in the city, with a remit to poke her nose in, I found out that the lady almoners of pre-NHS days - responsible for dispensing charity to the poor - rapidly professionalised themselves into welfare officers and then social workers and the short history of their profession is well-documented and . . . bingo. Licensed busy-body!
DeleteCongrats, Catriona! The aerial gym made me chuckle and the Turkish Baths - wow!
ReplyDeleteMy grandmother grew up in a tiny Pennsylvania town with an outhouse and a tin tub, so I know exactly what you're describing.
Hiya. Wasn't Malice wonderful? I had a chatty middle-seater on the flight home who looked at me as if I was mad when he found out I was flying coast-to-coast to talk about books for three days at my own expense. Poor him, eh?
DeleteCongratulations on the new book! I, too, somehow missed the first one, so I need to take care of that oversight in near future.
ReplyDeleteI have learned to keep this to myself in most cases, as it really weirds a lot of people out, but the first home I remember living in had indoor plumbing to the kitchen, but no indoor bathroom. It was in Appalachia. We moved from there shortly before I entered kindergarten, so my memories are somewhat indistinct. Though I do remember my dear older sister being responsible for taking me out in the night if I needed to go, and trying to rush me while I tried to overcome the night chill in order to relax enough to let nature flow.
But even a decade later, when my 15-years-my-senior brother first married, he and his bride rented a house from the coal company that had strip mined the area, and they had no running water at all in that house. It all had to be carried up from a natural spring about 100 yards from the house. I can't imagine how they did that, but I will add that the water from that spring had the most wonderful, clear, fresh taste!
What can I say, Susan? I am a publicist's nightmare! I've never had an outdoor toilet - I was born in a house constructed post-war, which had downstairs plumbing but only bedrooms upstairs. But, to your point of people's reactions to you history, when I said "council house" to an American audience for the first time and someone asked me what I meant, and I explained that it was what they'd call "the projects", there was a long moment of silence I couldn't quite get a grasp on! Maybe they thought all Brits were posh?
DeleteHi Catriona, Your new series sounds great! I love reading about the post-war years and imagining my parents' lives. My mom brought dad back to Oregon with her in 1951 after she completed a year of work as a librarian in his home city of Leeds. My grandmother immediately decided she needed to "fatten up" dad, because the years of austerity combined with his nervous energy had left him very skinny.
ReplyDeleteI don't think I went to the public baths in Edinburgh when I was a student there for a few months in 1978, but your picture looks familiar, so it's possible. I did go swimming in Canada (I think Victoria?) at a place called the Natatorium, which had a similar spacious pool with a very high ceiling.
My mother grew up in a house built in 1902 and when I knew it there was a bathroom upstairs with a clawfoot tub and sink and toilet but there was still an outhouse out behind the house as well as a wash house with enormous black tubs where the laundry would be washed. There were six children and one bathroom. Finally they put a sink and toilet in a big room where the washing machine was on the ground floor for my great grandmother who lived with them.
ReplyDeleteLiving in the South, when we would drive in the mountains, there would be places where you could pull off and look at the views. There were often picnic tables and also an outhouse complete with a crescent moon cutout on the door. Plus when I went to Girl Scout camp we had latrines.
When I lived in France, both in Paris and in Rennes, I had apartments with shared toilets on the landing so we shared with the other apartments on the floor. In the apartment in Paris the shower was in the kitchen, next to the sink, very efficient.
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Hi, Catrion! It's always such a pleasure to have you here on Jungle Reds. I'm a longtime fan... adore your humor and sense of the absurd. I was spoiled growing up in a fancy Hollywood home with many bathrooms. And a swimming pool. When I got to a month-long overnight summer camp and there were only outhouses, I nearly died to constipation. Also cold outdoor showers... brrrr. I was truly a ltitle hot-house flower.
ReplyDeleteI'm loving everyone's stories this morning! My first experiences with outhouses were on trips to Mexico when I was a child, on the Pan American highway to Mexico City. There weren't nice gas stations with toilets.
ReplyDeleteCatriona, why didn't I know that there is a sequel to InPlace of Fear, which I thoroughly enjoyed back in 2022? Regardless, I am excited about The Edinburgh Murders and will definitely seek in out, though--of course--I would love to win a copy from you. Much continued success with the new book!
ReplyDeleteI'm up! It's almost seven here on the west coast. Thank you, Deb, for hosting me so graciously. As I just said, on my Malice panel on Saturday, when asked how to make historical fiction resonate for modern readers - I do it with domestic detail because everyone loves food and filth. So I'm betting right now, before I read any comments, that we're going to be leaning heavily into adventures in early plumbing.
ReplyDeleteCongratulations on your new novel! Your post was captivating and fascinating. I enjoy the historical details which makes the story come alive. When I was young we rented a very rustic cabin with no indoor plumbing. Outhouse, pump and had to deal with it. We didn't care and enjoyed the week with the simplicity and freedom at that time.
ReplyDeleteCATRIONA: I love learning the background about these baths. An acrobatic gym?! I would never have guessed that function!
ReplyDeleteThe first communal baths I tried were the onsen in Japan. Sharing a huge bath with other women, all naked. Such a strange & memorable experience for this Toronto teenager!
And my time at Blue Lagoon in Iceland was pretty cool. But it was more of a spa experience than a bath, though.